Ireland rejects extradition to US as prison inhumane

[Scyobayrynn]

Sure you dont

We're really not. There's no one for us to defend against.

Seriously, nobody hates Ireland.

[Kazarogkai]

It does fix the problem, the victim has been restored and compensated for their loss and that is all that is important. If the person repeats then o well, punish them again. I honestly don't care if they repeat a crime, so long as they pay for what they have done then it satisfies justice.

And what if the repeated crime is on yourself? No one gives a shit until something hits home.

Then the justice system should rememdy the issue.

I don't view the point of thejustice system to prevent crime, that responsibility lies on social welfare, education, and a good upbringing.

[Autonomous Titoists]

We're really not. There's no one for us to defend against.

Seriously, nobody hates Ireland.

Potatoes don't like the Irish.

[Kazarogkai]

It does fix the problem, the victim has been restored and compensated for their loss and that is all that is important. If the person repeats then o well, punish them again. I honestly don't care if they repeat a crime, so long as they pay for what they have done then it satisfies justice.

That's a recipe for failure.

Depends on your definition of failure.

[Autonomous Titoists]

And what if the repeated crime is on yourself? No one gives a shit until something hits home.

Then the justice system should rememdy the issue.

I don't view the point of thejustice system to prevent crime, that responsibility lies on social welfare, education, and a good upbringing.

That's a fair point of view. At least you're consistent.

[Autonomous Titoists]

That's a recipe for failure.

Depends on your definition of failure.

Releasing hundreds of thousands of disenfranchised people many with poor education who can't even consider continuing that because like I said no student loans, they might be able to get a high school diploma, or GED. They've been barred from higher education, they can't progress without it. You have to have that fancy piece of paper from a college to get higher job positions, and they can't even get living wage jobs because practically no one will hire ex-cons. That's mostly on a child basis of when they were arrested, though many in our criminal institutions have high school dropouts. If we refuse education you can't use education to better you're situation. In 2014 California built 34 or so prisons...1 university. That says a lot about our country and how we view the importance of education.

[Greed and Death]

I hate to say this but we need to bomb ireland.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Life ain't fair.
You get what you deserve.
Life ain't fair.
You get what you deserve.

Say do you just post shit off bumperstickers randomly, or do you pick ones that contradict each other on purpose?

News flash man, nobody's impressed with your edgey yet exceedingly shallow and uninformed commentary on complex long standing issues.

News flash! Nobody is impressed with yours either.

*raises hand*

Actually, I'm a bit impressed.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

What are you gonna do? Find another country to land your war planes in? Tell Google to move their European headquarters to a country with a higher corporate tax rate?

In fact it is the US stepping into Irish domestic affairs by requesting that we extradite a person in our custody to you.

You know the US Military can make or break a region in the world by just coming and going.

Life ain't fair.
You get what you deserve.
Life ain't fair.
You get what you deserve.

Say do you just post shit off bumperstickers randomly, or do you pick ones that contradict each other on purpose?

News flash man, nobody's impressed with your edgey yet exceedingly shallow and uninformed commentary on complex long standing issues.

I'm not going to apologize for the fact that you can't come up with anything to rebut my arguments other than by attacking me for being 'edgy' or 'shallow' (which, by the way, I'm neither). Just because my argument is opposite of yours doesn't mean I'm trying to sound like an internet tough guy. I genuinely believe if you break the law you deserve to go to jail if that's the consequence of the crime you committed.

"That's the way it is", which is what your responses boil down to, does not qualify as an argument.

[Lockdownn]

I hate to say this but we need to bomb ireland.

I totally support this needless act of violence over a simple insect.

/sarcasm

[Autonomous Titoists]

I hate to say this but we need to bomb ireland.

Do you want to support that or should we just bomb countries we don't like now? Oh wait we already do that throughout Southeast Asia, the Philippines, Eastern Africa. Yeah bombing children?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I hate to say this but we need to bomb ireland.

Ireland has been bombed since they came up with whiskey.

[Autonomous Titoists]

You know the US Military can make or break a region in the world by just coming and going.


I'm not going to apologize for the fact that you can't come up with anything to rebut my arguments other than by attacking me for being 'edgy' or 'shallow' (which, by the way, I'm neither). Just because my argument is opposite of yours doesn't mean I'm trying to sound like an internet tough guy. I genuinely believe if you break the law you deserve to go to jail if that's the consequence of the crime you committed.

"That's the way it is", which is what your responses boil down to, does not qualify as an argument.

Correct! Long time no see yumyum.

[Scyobayrynn]

Depends on your definition of failure.

Releasing hundreds of thousands of disenfranchised people many with poor education who can't even consider continuing that because like I said no student loans, they might be able to get a high school diploma, or GED. They've been barred from higher education, they can't progress without it. You have to have that fancy piece of paper from a college to get higher job positions, and they can't even get living wage jobs because practically no one will hire ex-cons. That's mostly on a child basis of when they were arrested, though many in our criminal institutions have high school dropouts. If we refuse education you can't use education to better you're situation. In 2014 California built 34 or so prisons...1 university. That says a lot about our country and how we view the importance of education.

And unfortunately, the importance of prisons.

[Kazarogkai]

Depends on your definition of failure.

Releasing hundreds of thousands of disenfranchised people many with poor education who can't even consider continuing that because like I said no student loans, they might be able to get a high school diploma, or GED. They've been barred from higher education, they can't progress without it. You have to have that fancy piece of paper from a college to get higher job positions, and they can't even get living wage jobs because practically no one will hire ex-cons. That's mostly on a child basis of when they were arrested, though many in our criminal institutions have high school dropouts. If we refuse education you can't use education to better you're situation. In 2014 California built 34 or so prisons...1 university. That says a lot about our country and how we view the importance of education.

You do have a point there, that is very something that is quite sad and breaks my heart. People should be punished immediately and then after that forgiven, they shouldn't be continued to punished for the rest of their lives for something that has been paid for. They have already paid their debt, why should we treat them as if they haven't? My personal opinion on that is that is not so much a problem with the justice system and more a problem with society as a whole.

[Scyobayrynn]

I hate to say this but we need to bomb ireland.

Ireland has been bombed since they came up with whiskey.

Well done.

[Greed and Death]

I hate to say this but we need to bomb ireland.

Do you want to support that or should we just bomb countries we don't like now? Oh wait we already do that throughout Southeast Asia, the Philippines, Eastern Africa. Yeah bombing children?

I like Ireland I really do, they just need to learn to obey the US.

[Wallenburg]

I hate to say this but we need to bomb ireland.

That'll improve our world standing and get this guy behind bars. *nods*

[Wallenburg]

Do you want to support that or should we just bomb countries we don't like now? Oh wait we already do that throughout Southeast Asia, the Philippines, Eastern Africa. Yeah bombing children?

I like Ireland I really do, they just need to learn to obey the US.

They are a sovereign state. They don't have to obey anybody. What you suggest is essentially capitulating to US rule.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

I hate to say this but we need to bomb ireland.

Ireland has been bombed since they came up with whiskey.

And before they did, bombs hadn't been invented yet; we had to actually exert ourselves to torment the Irish.

[Autonomous Titoists]

Do you want to support that or should we just bomb countries we don't like now? Oh wait we already do that throughout Southeast Asia, the Philippines, Eastern Africa. Yeah bombing children?

I like Ireland I really do, they just need to learn to obey the US.

All bow to the mighty US. Love us or we'll bring democracy to YOUR country.

[Lockdownn]

Do you want to support that or should we just bomb countries we don't like now? Oh wait we already do that throughout Southeast Asia, the Philippines, Eastern Africa. Yeah bombing children?

I like Ireland I really do, they just need to learn to obey the US.

Maybe everyone needs to shut the fuck up and stay within their own damn borders. /Just saying

[The Empire of Pretantia]

I like Ireland I really do, they just need to learn to obey the US.

They are a sovereign state. They don't have to obey anybody. What you suggest is essentially capitulating to US rule.

Ja!

[Autonomous Titoists]

Releasing hundreds of thousands of disenfranchised people many with poor education who can't even consider continuing that because like I said no student loans, they might be able to get a high school diploma, or GED. They've been barred from higher education, they can't progress without it. You have to have that fancy piece of paper from a college to get higher job positions, and they can't even get living wage jobs because practically no one will hire ex-cons. That's mostly on a child basis of when they were arrested, though many in our criminal institutions have high school dropouts. If we refuse education you can't use education to better you're situation. In 2014 California built 34 or so prisons...1 university. That says a lot about our country and how we view the importance of education.

You do have a point there, that is very something that is quite sad and breaks my heart. People should be punished immediately and then after that forgiven, they shouldn't be continued to punished for the rest of their lives for something that has been paid for. They have already paid their debt, why should we treat them as if they haven't? My personal opinion on that is that is not so much a problem with the justice system and more a problem with society as a whole.

Ahhh. It all makes sense now. You support the justice system when it comes to dealing out punishment, but you see the after effects of having your name in a book of being in prison as society''s problem. Now that I can understand.

[Autonomous Titoists]

I like Ireland I really do, they just need to learn to obey the US.

Maybe everyone needs to shut the fuck up and stay within their own damn borders. /Just saying

You expect the US to stay in its borders? We haven't been able to do that since the DAMN COMMUNIST SCOURGE!! came across the land and stole these poor countries freedoms. Dammit democratize the shit out of them! /sarcasm