Man has consensual sex with '17' year old, now a crime

[Veceria]

Exactly. The same will happen if we ban guns.
http://www.2acheck.com/?attachment_id=1069

Indeed: guns are strictly regulated in Europe, and in ALL the countries roughly comparable to USA there are FAR less homicides per capita (Portugal, Spain, France, UK, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Austria, Denmark, Sweden and Norway, in example)
I don't even bother to source it: everybody knows.

Thank you for proving my point.

You can't compare any other country to the US though. It's totally different.
And guns aren't as strictly regulated here as most people think.

[New Benian Republic]

Damn, those are some insane laws if they can phase shit out of existence

If anything it will become horrible as those used in black market porn would be sex slaves (Not the kinky thing) who do not have the power to stop doing pornography.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Indeed: guns are strictly regulated in Europe, and in ALL the countries rioughly comparable to USA there are FAR less homicides per capita.
I don't even bother to source it: everybody knows.

Thank you for proving my point.

Oh my God... I suggest you click the source. I think it might give you more clarity as to what my actual opinion is.

Na man she's right, gang activity is illegal and I can already feel myself fading away.

Answer my damn question please, I really want to know what you think.

What question?

Do you think porn will just go away if you outlaw it?

[The Cobalt Sky]

Answer my damn question please, I really want to know what you think.

What question?

THIS ONE:

Indeed, when patriarchy will end, porn will be outlawed.

Okay I've brought this up a thousand times and you've never answered. Are you really naive enough to think porn will just go away when you outlaw it?

Indeed: guns are strictly regulated in Europe, and in ALL the countries roughly comparable to USA there are FAR less homicides per capita (Portugal, Spain, France, UK, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Austria, Denmark, Sweden and Norway, in example)
I don't even bother to source it: everybody knows.

Thank you for proving my point.

You can't compare any other country to the US though. It's totally different.
And guns aren't as strictly regulated here as most people think.

She didn't even get that what I said was parody...

[Chessmistress]

What question?

Do you think porn will just go away if you outlaw it?

If we will just only outlaw it: no, it'll never go away. But it'll decrease to 20% or even 10% because most people will be afraid to use it.
BUT
If we'll manage to ashame and stigmatise who use porn AND we'll bann it, it'll decrease to 2% or 1%.
When pornography will be decreased at such rate, not anymore bad attitudes towards women.

[Val Halla]

Do you think porn will just go away if you outlaw it?

If we just only outlwa it: no, it'll never go away. But it'll decrease to 20% or even 10% because people will be afraid to use it.
BUT
If we'll manage to ashame and stigmatise who use porn AND we'll bann it, it'll decrease to 2% or 1%.
When pornography will be decreased at such rate, not anymore bad attitudes towards women.

What if the porn contains only males?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Do you think porn will just go away if you outlaw it?

If we will just only outlaw it: no, it'll never go away. But it'll decrease to 20% or even 10% because most people will be afraid to use it.
BUT
If we'll manage to ashame and stigmatise who use porn AND we'll bann it, it'll decrease to 2% or 1%.
When pornography will be decreased at such rate, not anymore bad attitudes towards women.

Alright, I'd like to see some sources for those numbers.

[New Benian Republic]

Do you think porn will just go away if you outlaw it?

If we will just only outlaw it: no, it'll never go away. But it'll decrease to 20% or even 10% because most people will be afraid to use it.
BUT
If we'll manage to ashame and stigmatise who use porn AND we'll bann it, it'll decrease to 2% or 1%.
When pornography will be decreased at such rate, not anymore bad attitudes towards women.

Literally no one would allow such a ban to pass.

[Imperializt Russia]

Do you think porn will just go away if you outlaw it?

If we will just only outlaw it: no, it'll never go away. But it'll decrease to 20% or even 10% because most people will be afraid to use it.
BUT
If we'll manage to ashame and stigmatise who use porn AND we'll bann it, it'll decrease to 2% or 1%.
When pornography will be decreased at such rate, not anymore bad attitudes towards women.

I'm a teenager on the internet, I can't get laid like a normal person.
What the hell am I supposed to do without porn?

[Galloism]

Do you think porn will just go away if you outlaw it?

If we will just only outlaw it: no, it'll never go away. But it'll decrease to 20% or even 10% because most people will be afraid to use it.
BUT
If we'll manage to ashame and stigmatise who use porn AND we'll bann it, it'll decrease to 2% or 1%.
When pornography will be decreased at such rate, not anymore bad attitudes towards women.

You know, if this is parody, it's classicly funny parody. Good for a chuckle.

If it's serious, it's one of the funniest damn things ever.

[Gauthier]

Do you think porn will just go away if you outlaw it?

If we will just only outlaw it: no, it'll never go away. But it'll decrease to 20% or even 10% because most people will be afraid to use it.
BUT
If we'll manage to ashame and stigmatise who use porn AND we'll bann it, it'll decrease to 2% or 1%.
When pornography will be decreased at such rate, not anymore bad attitudes towards women.

Congratulations on giving organized crime another money-making venture.

[Washington Resistance Army]

If we will just only outlaw it: no, it'll never go away. But it'll decrease to 20% or even 10% because most people will be afraid to use it.
BUT
If we'll manage to ashame and stigmatise who use porn AND we'll bann it, it'll decrease to 2% or 1%.
When pornography will be decreased at such rate, not anymore bad attitudes towards women.

You know, if this is parody, it's classicly funny parody. Good for a chuckle.

If it's serious, it's one of the funniest damn things ever.

That's the point I've arrived at, this is just funny either way.

[Galloism]

If we will just only outlaw it: no, it'll never go away. But it'll decrease to 20% or even 10% because most people will be afraid to use it.
BUT
If we'll manage to ashame and stigmatise who use porn AND we'll bann it, it'll decrease to 2% or 1%.
When pornography will be decreased at such rate, not anymore bad attitudes towards women.

I'm a teenager on the internet, I can't get laid like a normal person.
What the hell am I supposed to do without porn?

Become a voyeur.

Duh.

[Galloism]

If we will just only outlaw it: no, it'll never go away. But it'll decrease to 20% or even 10% because most people will be afraid to use it.
BUT
If we'll manage to ashame and stigmatise who use porn AND we'll bann it, it'll decrease to 2% or 1%.
When pornography will be decreased at such rate, not anymore bad attitudes towards women.

Congratulations on giving organized crime another money-making venture.

And one that can be done digitally without physical distribution.

[Imperializt Russia]

I'm a teenager on the internet, I can't get laid like a normal person.
What the hell am I supposed to do without porn?

Become a voyeur.

Duh.

Of course!
It was so obvious!

I also realise I'm a compulsive liar because I reflexively called myself a "teenager". I'm twenty bloody two. Bad Impe.

[Farnhamia]

Become a voyeur.

Duh.

Of course!
It was so obvious!

I also realise I'm a compulsive liar because I reflexively called myself a "teenager". I'm twenty bloody two. Bad Impe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Ray_Specs_(novelty)

[The Cobalt Sky]

If we will just only outlaw it: no, it'll never go away. But it'll decrease to 20% or even 10% because most people will be afraid to use it.
BUT
If we'll manage to ashame and stigmatise who use porn AND we'll bann it, it'll decrease to 2% or 1%.
When pornography will be decreased at such rate, not anymore bad attitudes towards women.

I'm a teenager on the internet, I can't get laid like a normal person.
What the hell am I supposed to do without porn?

Yeah. People did get along okay before it was a thing, but to suddenly remove it (if that's even possible) would definitely cause some ripples. And shaming people further will screw up their confidence and make it even harder for them to do it IRL.

[Chessmistress]

If we will just only outlaw it: no, it'll never go away. But it'll decrease to 20% or even 10% because most people will be afraid to use it.
BUT
If we'll manage to ashame and stigmatise who use porn AND we'll bann it, it'll decrease to 2% or 1%.
When pornography will be decreased at such rate, not anymore bad attitudes towards women.

Literally no one would allow such a ban to pass.

Today, it's probably so.
More and more women will have power, more and more society will dislike porn: most women don't like porn, most males like porn.
Just think about affirmative ongoing consent: it was unthinkable just only 20 years ago. Affirmative ongoing consent beginned to spread within colleges and universities...why? It's not a mere case, it's because women are about 60% students (except in STEM, and that's a shame).
The same for anti-sexual harassment policies: more and more women there will be in the workforce, more and more anti-sexual harassment policies will be harsh.

[The Grey Wolf]

As a convicted sex offender, the terms of Zach’s probation are incredibly strict. For the next five years, he is forbidden from owning a smart phone or using the Internet. He is not allowed to talk to anyone under age 17, other than immediate family. He is banned from going to any establishment that serves alcohol and he has to be home before 8 p.m. every night.

“They make me out to be a monster,” Zach said. “I can't even look at life regularly.”

I'm not even sure what this is supposed to accomplish.

[New Benian Republic]

Literally no one would allow such a ban to pass.

Today, it's probably so.
More and more women will have power, more and more society will dislike porn: most women don't like porn, most males like porn.
Just think about affirmative ongoing consent: it was unthinkable just only 20 years ago. Affirmative ongoing consent beginned to spread within colleges and universities...why? It's not a mere case, it's because women are about 60% students (except in STEM, and that's a shame).
The same for anti-sexual harassment policies: more and more women there will be in the workforce, more and more anti-sexual harassment policies will be harsh.

On campuses it's because feminists basically run them.

[Gauthier]

As a convicted sex offender, the terms of Zach’s probation are incredibly strict. For the next five years, he is forbidden from owning a smart phone or using the Internet. He is not allowed to talk to anyone under age 17, other than immediate family. He is banned from going to any establishment that serves alcohol and he has to be home before 8 p.m. every night.

“They make me out to be a monster,” Zach said. “I can't even look at life regularly.”

I'm not even sure what this is supposed to accomplish.

It was cooked up with the idea that onerous terms would disincentivize recidivism. In reality, it makes living a normal life so shitty impossible that doing it again or doing worse becomes a very attractive option.

[The Cobalt Sky]

Literally no one would allow such a ban to pass.

Today, it's probably so.
More and more women will have power, more and more society will dislike porn: most women don't like porn, most males like porn.
Just think about affirmative ongoing consent: it was unthinkable just only 20 years ago. Affirmative ongoing consent beginned to spread within colleges and universities...why? It's not a mere case, it's because women are about 60% students (except in STEM, and that's a shame).
The same for anti-sexual harassment policies: more and more women there will be in the workforce, more and more anti-sexual harassment policies will be harsh.

First off, where's your proof most women don't like porn? And that women in power will decide to ban it, even if they don't like it?

[Grave_n_idle]

Ah, I think you're confused - I'm not arguing opinion, I'm saying that - based on precedence I've not seen a case that suggests it would hold up.

If you think there's a case where there is a precedent that it WOULD hold up, feel free to source it.

Maybe there's the disconnect. I was referring to what happened, not the likelihood of a conviction for it. So far as I know, it is still LEGAL to commit rape by deception in some states.

And, in those states, there's no precedent for it to have applied in a case like THIS.

[Val Halla]

Today, it's probably so.
More and more women will have power, more and more society will dislike porn: most women don't like porn, most males like porn.
Just think about affirmative ongoing consent: it was unthinkable just only 20 years ago. Affirmative ongoing consent beginned to spread within colleges and universities...why? It's not a mere case, it's because women are about 60% students (except in STEM, and that's a shame).
The same for anti-sexual harassment policies: more and more women there will be in the workforce, more and more anti-sexual harassment policies will be harsh.

First off, where's your proof most women don't like porn? And that women in power will decide to ban it, even if they don't like it?

Has Germany banned porn?

As a convicted sex offender, the terms of Zach’s probation are incredibly strict. For the next five years, he is forbidden from owning a smart phone or using the Internet. He is not allowed to talk to anyone under age 17, other than immediate family. He is banned from going to any establishment that serves alcohol and he has to be home before 8 p.m. every night.

“They make me out to be a monster,” Zach said. “I can't even look at life regularly.”

I'm not even sure what this is supposed to accomplish.

Make somebody depressed?

[The Grey Wolf]

As a convicted sex offender, the terms of Zach’s probation are incredibly strict. For the next five years, he is forbidden from owning a smart phone or using the Internet. He is not allowed to talk to anyone under age 17, other than immediate family. He is banned from going to any establishment that serves alcohol and he has to be home before 8 p.m. every night.

“They make me out to be a monster,” Zach said. “I can't even look at life regularly.”

I'm not even sure what this is supposed to accomplish.

It was cooked up with the idea that onerous terms would disincentivize recidivism. In reality, it makes living a normal life so shitty impossible that doing it again or doing worse becomes a very attractive option.

Why do I get the feeling that the good old fashioned GOP was responsible for this harebrained scheme?

Indeed, when patriarchy will end, porn will be outlawed.

Okay I've brought this up a thousand times and you've never answered. Are you really naive enough to think porn will just go away when you outlaw it?

Who knew that the only thing protecting our right to wank were the old men in the patriarchy.