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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:16 pm

Chessmistress wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Oh,I dunno. 50 years ago fucking a 14 year old was considered fine and dandy. "Peace and love, do not deny the sexuality of children man.Yeah".


And I bet that was mainly because it were males, and just only males, dominating and creating the rules of the whole game.
50 years from now, women will have redefined such rules, in a way that will suit us more: it'll be a more fair, truly equal, world.
That's just only the beginning.

That sounds pretty ominous.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:18 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:
And I bet that was mainly because it were males, and just only males, dominating and creating the rules of the whole game.
50 years from now, women will have redefined such rules, in a way that will suit us more: it'll be a more fair, truly equal, world.
That's just only the beginning.

That sounds pretty ominous.


I dunno, it's just hilariously stupid to me.
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:18 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
The Cobalt Sky wrote:I don't know. I'd kind of be okay with it if they incorporated chains and whips into their domination. If that's actually what Chess wants, then I don't see why everyone is so opposed to it.


Of course there would be chains and whips. :)

And lube too, right?
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Postby Veceria » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:21 pm

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USS Monitor wrote:
Of course there would be chains and whips. :)

And lube too, right?

Where we go we won't need no lube. Cheerio!
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:22 pm

Veceria wrote:
The Cobalt Sky wrote:And lube too, right?

Where we go we won't need no lube. Cheerio!

Alright then I guess I don't stand with Chess after all.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:22 pm

The Cobalt Sky wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Of course there would be chains and whips. :)

And lube too, right?

What are you doing with that chain?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:23 pm

The Cobalt Sky wrote:
Veceria wrote:Where we go we won't need no lube. Cheerio!

Alright then I guess I don't stand with Chess after all.


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Postby Veceria » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:24 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Cobalt Sky wrote:And lube too, right?

What are you doing with that chain?

Hehe.
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:26 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Cobalt Sky wrote:And lube too, right?

What are you doing with that chain?

Creating social equality.
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The Cobalt Sky wrote:Alright then I guess I don't stand with Chess after all.


Join the Patriarchy, we have porn.

And then I returned to the patriarchy...
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:29 pm

Galloism wrote:
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Fair and equal. That's disturbing.

Um.

Let's keep in mind that Chess's view of equality includes "guilty until proven innocent" as a serious legal platform.


And yet recognizing that the sex offender registry system as it is would only encourage people to reoffend or in some cases Actually Offend at the same time. It's either cognitive dissonance or pure bullshit at work.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:36 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Nilla Wayfarers wrote:I thought it said 25 years... Or are you just talking about the phone thing?

He'll be on the sex offender's register for 25 years. His probation, which has terms prohibiting him from using phones and so on, lasts 5 years.

And I'm sure that even once he's off the register it'll show up in background checks, which everyone does these days. He'll be incredibly lucky if he can find work as anything other than a cashier.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:37 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Ifreann wrote:He'll be on the sex offender's register for 25 years. His probation, which has terms prohibiting him from using phones and so on, lasts 5 years.

And I'm sure that even once he's off the register it'll show up in background checks, which everyone does these days. He'll be incredibly lucky if he can find work as anything other than a cashier.


And thus the cycle continues and someone else will probably turn to crime to make ends meet.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:40 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:And I'm sure that even once he's off the register it'll show up in background checks, which everyone does these days. He'll be incredibly lucky if he can find work as anything other than a cashier.


And thus the cycle continues and someone else will probably turn to crime to make ends meet.


In some places like Miami, the zoning restrictions for registered sex offenders are so onerous they end up living in homeless colonies under overpasses and whatnot.

Yes, let's encourage registered sex offenders to drop off the grid by making life on the grid impossible.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:40 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:And I'm sure that even once he's off the register it'll show up in background checks, which everyone does these days. He'll be incredibly lucky if he can find work as anything other than a cashier.


And thus the cycle continues and someone else will probably turn to crime to make ends meet.

Or more likely, he'll probably just live in really shitty and totally preventable poverty.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:40 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:And I'm sure that even once he's off the register it'll show up in background checks, which everyone does these days. He'll be incredibly lucky if he can find work as anything other than a cashier.


And thus the cycle continues and someone else will probably turn to crime to make ends meet.

Well, considering how many job postings are online and that he's banned from the internet for the next five years, yeah, he probably will.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:45 pm

Esternial wrote:
Gravlen wrote:The reason for conviction was that the guy pled guilty. Nothing untowards about that in and by itself.

I should rephrase: punishment was inevitable, but it seemed unfair to convict someone with this particular punishment considering the circumstances. Some of the restrictions he's received and being forced to register as a sex offender really screw up his life for what is strictly not just his own fault. People like this or not what the sex offender list is for.

This doesn't address your point, but I'd also like to add that rape charges should be more diversified, depending on the circumstances. It would allow more serious cases to be punished more harshly while cases like these can be treated separately, with a less serious punishment.

He's a sex offender, yes, but I feel like the list shouldn't just be a "one size fits all" kind of deal - at least that's the impression I got from such a harsh punishment.

The sex offender registry is a good concept that in practice has a number of issues.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:45 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
And thus the cycle continues and someone else will probably turn to crime to make ends meet.

Or more likely, he'll probably just live in really shitty and totally preventable poverty.


Might just be me but I'd much rather go back to things than live a life that shitty.

I just can't wrap my head around the judge in this case, crazy ass puritans being judges evidently isn't the best thing in the world.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:48 pm

New Benian Republic wrote:The girl deserves prison time.

For?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:49 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Or more likely, he'll probably just live in really shitty and totally preventable poverty.


Might just be me but I'd much rather go back to things than live a life that shitty.

I just can't wrap my head around the judge in this case, crazy ass puritans being judges evidently isn't the best thing in the world.

It's basically just a microcosm of western criminal "justice".
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:49 pm

I'm just waiting for someone put on the sex offender registry through bullshit getting so tired of living as an outcast with next to no chance of decent employment ends up becoming the most heinous rapist/molestor in history out of some spiteful If You're Doing the Time You Well As Might Do the Crime nihilism.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:52 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
And thus the cycle continues and someone else will probably turn to crime to make ends meet.


In some places like Miami, the zoning restrictions for registered sex offenders are so onerous they end up living in homeless colonies under overpasses and whatnot.

Yes, let's encourage registered sex offenders to drop off the grid by making life on the grid impossible.


The way the vindictive attitude of the American criminal justice system makes life nearly impossible for many people is just ridiculous.
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:58 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:The girl deserves prison time.

For?

Tricking a guy into having sex with her, Sex that later ruined his life.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:59 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
In some places like Miami, the zoning restrictions for registered sex offenders are so onerous they end up living in homeless colonies under overpasses and whatnot.

Yes, let's encourage registered sex offenders to drop off the grid by making life on the grid impossible.


The way the vindictive attitude of the American criminal justice system makes life nearly impossible for many people is just ridiculous.

So why don't we just give convicted criminals flowers and ask them nicely not to do it again.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:00 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The way the vindictive attitude of the American criminal justice system makes life nearly impossible for many people is just ridiculous.

So why don't we just give convicted criminals flowers and ask them nicely not to do it again.


Because hey, treating a guy who slept with a girl younger than she claimed to be the same as serial kiddy rapists won't encourage him to drop off the grid and maybe do it for real.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:00 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The way the vindictive attitude of the American criminal justice system makes life nearly impossible for many people is just ridiculous.

So why don't we just give convicted criminals flowers and ask them nicely not to do it again.


Why don't we actually rehabilitate people ;)
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