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Postby Ifreann » Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:08 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Esternial wrote:If anything, she should be punished with some of the restrictions that the guy's experiencing from being on the sex offender's list.

"Forbidden from owning a smart phone or using the Internet"

Since she also used this App to consciously lie to this man, the girl should no longer be permitted to access it - and since the state is willing to go as far as to ban the guy from access to computers, smartphones and internet altogether, I feel that should apply to this girl, too.

Well, "forbidden from owning a smart phone or using the internet" basically makes finding work impossible before considering the giant "HELLO I AM A SEX OFFENDER" nametag stapled to his forehead.
How long does that restriction last?

Five years.

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Postby The Klishi Islands » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:01 am

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You're yelling "you" into a swirling wind tunnel of voices and debate and arguments. Who, may I ask, are you speaking to?
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Postby Nilla Wayfarers » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:03 am

Ifreann wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Well, "forbidden from owning a smart phone or using the internet" basically makes finding work impossible before considering the giant "HELLO I AM A SEX OFFENDER" nametag stapled to his forehead.
How long does that restriction last?

Five years.

I thought it said 25 years... Or are you just talking about the phone thing?
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:05 am

Esternial wrote:I don't think it's particularly fair that the judge takes out his resentment towards this "hook-up culture" on this guy. Sounds highly unprofessional.

Legally, rape did occur, but the statements from the girl and her parents should count for something. What kind of a poor judge are you if you're incapable of taking into account extenuating circumstances and base your ruling on "society and culture". Seems like a pathetic excuse to convict someone.

I think some investigation should be done into this weird judge.


Yeah, the way the judge justified his ruling is pretty sketchy.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:05 am

Nilla Wayfarers wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Five years.

I thought it said 25 years... Or are you just talking about the phone thing?

He'll be on the sex offender's register for 25 years. His probation, which has terms prohibiting him from using phones and so on, lasts 5 years.

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Postby Nilla Wayfarers » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:08 am

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Nilla Wayfarers wrote:I thought it said 25 years... Or are you just talking about the phone thing?

He'll be on the sex offender's register for 25 years. His probation, which has terms prohibiting him from using phones and so on, lasts 5 years.

Okay, that makes more sense. I saw the OP, but I couldn't tell which part you were referring to.
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:13 am

The good news is that once my generation is mostly gone there won't be as much bigotry as bullshit like this.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:15 am

New Benian Republic wrote:The good news is that once my generation is mostly gone there won't be as much bigotry as bullshit like this.


Oh,I dunno. 50 years ago fucking a 14 year old was considered fine and dandy. "Peace and love, do not deny the sexuality of children man.Yeah".
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Postby Olivaero » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:37 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Esternial wrote:If anything, she should be punished with some of the restrictions that the guy's experiencing from being on the sex offender's list.

"Forbidden from owning a smart phone or using the Internet"

Since she also used this App to consciously lie to this man, the girl should no longer be permitted to access it - and since the state is willing to go as far as to ban the guy from access to computers, smartphones and internet altogether, I feel that should apply to this girl, too.

Well, "forbidden from owning a smart phone or using the internet" basically makes finding work impossible before considering the giant "HELLO I AM A SEX OFFENDER" nametag stapled to his forehead.
How long does that restriction last?

That condition is some fucking Les Miserables shit right there he might as well change his name to Jean Valjean.
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:38 am

Olivaero wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Well, "forbidden from owning a smart phone or using the internet" basically makes finding work impossible before considering the giant "HELLO I AM A SEX OFFENDER" nametag stapled to his forehead.
How long does that restriction last?

That condition is some fucking Les Miserables shit right there he might as well change his name to Jean Valjean.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:03 pm

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You can 'say' what you like. I think you're probably wrong in this case, based on precedents I've seen.


Of course, I actually gave a rationale for the position. You didn't provide one for how such a lie to get sex would NOT be rape by deception.


Ah, I think you're confused - I'm not arguing opinion, I'm saying that - based on precedence I've not seen a case that suggests it would hold up.

If you think there's a case where there is a precedent that it WOULD hold up, feel free to source it.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:06 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:1. The mother's opinion isn't irrelevant.


I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm not telling you I think it's irrelevant, I'm saying that the mother's opinion is not relevant because it makes no difference to the case.
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Postby Kacj » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:43 pm

I think I'll stay on the fence thank you I'm quite comfy up here. Please don't stab me in the eyes.

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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:46 pm

The girl deserves prison time.
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:46 pm

Not so sure anyone has made this joke, but...

This gives a whole new meaning to young love, doesn't it?
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:48 pm

The Cobalt Sky wrote:Not so sure anyone has made this joke, but...

This gives a whole new meaning to young love, doesn't it?

:palm: :lol2:
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Postby Chessmistress » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:48 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:The good news is that once my generation is mostly gone there won't be as much bigotry as bullshit like this.


Oh,I dunno. 50 years ago fucking a 14 year old was considered fine and dandy. "Peace and love, do not deny the sexuality of children man.Yeah".


And I bet that was mainly because it were males, and just only males, dominating and creating the rules of the whole game.
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:49 pm

Chessmistress wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Oh,I dunno. 50 years ago fucking a 14 year old was considered fine and dandy. "Peace and love, do not deny the sexuality of children man.Yeah".


And I bet that was mainly because it were males, and just only males, dominating and creating the rules of the whole game.
50 years from now, women will have redefined such rules, in a way that will suit us more: it'll be a more fair, truly equal, world.
That's just only the beginning.

That sounds kind of like what the Nazis said if you switch a few words.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:50 pm

Chessmistress wrote:50 years from now, women will have redefined such rules, in a way that will suit us more: it'll be a more fair, truly equal, world.
That's just only the beginning.

That's not disturbing at all.
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:50 pm

Chessmistress wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Oh,I dunno. 50 years ago fucking a 14 year old was considered fine and dandy. "Peace and love, do not deny the sexuality of children man.Yeah".


And I bet that was mainly because it were males, and just only males, dominating and creating the rules of the whole game.
50 years from now, women will have redefined such rules, in a way that will suit us more: it'll be a more fair, truly equal, world.
That's just only the beginning.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:51 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:50 years from now, women will have redefined such rules, in a way that will suit us more: it'll be a more fair, truly equal, world.
That's just only the beginning.

That's not disturbing at all.


Fair and equal. That's disturbing.

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Postby Galloism » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:52 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:That's not disturbing at all.


Fair and equal. That's disturbing.

Um.

Let's keep in mind that Chess's view of equality includes "guilty until proven innocent" as a serious legal platform.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:55 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:That's not disturbing at all.


Fair and equal. That's disturbing.

Um.

"That's just only the beginning".

I can't help but think it suggests that women will start openly oppressing men. That for some reason, once we reach the delightful goal of fair, true equality, that we should not stop and flip the tables because fuck you.
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:01 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Fair and equal. That's disturbing.

Um.

"That's just only the beginning".

I can't help but think it suggests that women will start openly oppressing men. That for some reason, once we reach the delightful goal of fair, true equality, that we should not stop and flip the tables because fuck you.

I don't know. I'd kind of be okay with it if they incorporated chains and whips into their domination. If that's actually what Chess wants, then I don't see why everyone is so opposed to it.
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:15 pm

The Cobalt Sky wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:"That's just only the beginning".

I can't help but think it suggests that women will start openly oppressing men. That for some reason, once we reach the delightful goal of fair, true equality, that we should not stop and flip the tables because fuck you.

I don't know. I'd kind of be okay with it if they incorporated chains and whips into their domination. If that's actually what Chess wants, then I don't see why everyone is so opposed to it.


Of course there would be chains and whips. :)
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