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Postby Laerod » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:09 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Would you recognise the proof even if you did see it? You've already demonstrated that you aren't reading your own sources.

Why do you think natural selection stopped for the hundreds of thousands of years after humans left Africa? They're two different continents with a very small border and little reason to travel back and forth. Little evidence of African-Eurasian paleolithic contact also.

Why would anyone in their right mind think that natural selection stopped?

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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:09 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Are you saying that every single race has undergone strict inbreeding for thousands of years?

Not every breed of dog has undergone strict inbreeding. What?

Yes they have. That's how the breeds were made. It's the ONLY way they could have been made.
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Postby Norepinephrinistania » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:10 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Norepinephrinistania wrote:Not every breed of dog has undergone strict inbreeding. What?

Yes they have. That's how the breeds were made. It's the ONLY way they could have been made.

Source? You're basically saying that you're a creationist at this point.
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:12 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Yes they have. That's how the breeds were made. It's the ONLY way they could have been made.

Source? You're basically saying that you're a creationist at this point.

> Dogs interbred in order to create specific breeds
> Obviously a creationist

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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:12 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Would you recognise the proof even if you did see it? You've already demonstrated that you aren't reading your own sources.

Why do you think natural selection stopped for the hundreds of thousands of years after humans left Africa? They're two different continents with a very small border and little reason to travel back and forth. Little evidence of African-Eurasian paleolithic contact also.

Now you're just dodging the question.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:12 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Would you recognise the proof even if you did see it? You've already demonstrated that you aren't reading your own sources.

Why do you think natural selection stopped for the hundreds of thousands of years after humans left Africa? They're two different continents with a very small border and little reason to travel back and forth. Little evidence of African-Eurasian paleolithic contact also.

Now you aren't even reading the posts you quote.

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Postby Norepinephrinistania » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:12 pm

Laerod wrote:
Norepinephrinistania wrote:Why do you think natural selection stopped for the hundreds of thousands of years after humans left Africa? They're two different continents with a very small border and little reason to travel back and forth. Little evidence of African-Eurasian paleolithic contact also.

Why would anyone in their right mind think that natural selection stopped?

To further the egalitarianism myth. Different evolutionary pressures regarding intelligence, related to climate and geography, caused different levels of intelligence among humans. One continent of people must be smarter than the other, it's not possible to have 100% equality. Which is it?

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Postby Norepinephrinistania » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:13 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:
Norepinephrinistania wrote:Source? You're basically saying that you're a creationist at this point.

> Dogs interbred in order to create specific breeds
> Obviously a creationist

.... :eyebrow:

It's denial of natural selection playing any role on modern history. Silly and naive to the extreme.


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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:14 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Yes they have. That's how the breeds were made. It's the ONLY way they could have been made.

Source? You're basically saying that you're a creationist at this point.

You don't know what a creationist is, do you?
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Postby Flyover » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:15 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:
Terminus Alpha wrote:
OP, what do you think of these?

I think link spamming is silly.

You mean that reading is silly, I presume.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:15 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Norepinephrinistania wrote:Why do you think natural selection stopped for the hundreds of thousands of years after humans left Africa? They're two different continents with a very small border and little reason to travel back and forth. Little evidence of African-Eurasian paleolithic contact also.

Now you aren't even reading the posts you quote.

When did he start?
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:16 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:> Dogs interbred in order to create specific breeds
> Obviously a creationist

.... :eyebrow:

It's denial of natural selection playing any role on modern history. Silly and naive to the extreme.

Wait. How do humans forcing interbreeding in order to create varied dog breeds and natural selection of canis familiaris have anything in the same vein?

Oh right. They don't.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:17 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The fuck? The "food obtaining strategies" are virtually identical for Eurasians as they are for Africans. The only difference is the actual foods themselves.

Also, you're not getting away.

They are not. Seasonal climates require different strategies, for example.

Stop selectively snipping out (shittily, at that) parts of posts you don't want to reply to because you'll lose.

It's dishonest, childish, shitty and frankly insulting tact, especially for someone so utterly self-convinced of how "science" backs his God-damned arguments.
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Postby Norepinephrinistania » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:17 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Norepinephrinistania wrote:Source? You're basically saying that you're a creationist at this point.

You don't know what a creationist is, do you?

Not every single breed of dog was created by strict selective breeding, and you're link doesn't even say that.
A creationist is someone who denies the obvious reality of natural selection. Basically you.

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Postby Terminus Alpha » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:17 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:
Terminus Alpha wrote:
OP, what do you think of these?

I think link spamming is silly.


Well, I think your position is stupid and dangerous.

Also, you've offered explanations to everyone else, so why not me?

(Something else cool: Some of the first instances of the making of carbon steel were found in Tanzania.)
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:18 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The fuck? The "food obtaining strategies" are virtually identical for Eurasians as they are for Africans. The only difference is the actual foods themselves.

Also, you're not getting away.

If there are clear physical differences between races, why no intellectual differences? You have evaded how cultural differences cause over a standard deviation in IQ differences between whites and blacks, and why that's more likely than biological factors.

You're doing it. Again.
And leaving in hilariously telltale signs that you're doing it.

Fucking respond.
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Postby Norepinephrinistania » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:18 pm

Terminus Alpha wrote:
Norepinephrinistania wrote:I think link spamming is silly.


Well, I think your position is stupid and dangerous.

Also, you've offered explanations to everyone else, so why not me?

Because your opinions are not your own. You parrot disproven egalitarian orthodoxy on race and the clear realities of natural selection.

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Postby Flyover » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:18 pm

Terminus Alpha wrote:
Norepinephrinistania wrote:I think link spamming is silly.


Well, I think your position is stupid and dangerous.

Also, you've offered explanations to everyone else, so why not me?


Evidence is scary, dontcha know?
Norepinephrinistania wrote:
Terminus Alpha wrote:
Well, I think your position is stupid and dangerous.

Also, you've offered explanations to everyone else, so why not me?

Because your opinions are not your own. You parrot disproven egalitarian orthodoxy on race and the clear realities of natural selection.


lololololol
And you and you alone have this nonsensical racist ideology based on the perceived fact that the melanin in someone's skin makes them dumber?
If only.
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Postby Norepinephrinistania » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:19 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Norepinephrinistania wrote:If there are clear physical differences between races, why no intellectual differences? You have evaded how cultural differences cause over a standard deviation in IQ differences between whites and blacks, and why that's more likely than biological factors.

You're doing it. Again.
And leaving in hilariously telltale signs that you're doing it.

Fucking respond.

Tell me how environmental factors can account for all racial IQ differences.

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Postby The United Remnants of America » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:19 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:

Not every single breed of dog was created by strict selective breeding, and you're link doesn't even say that.
A creationist is someone who denies the obvious reality of natural selection. Basically you.

No. That's not what that is at all. Creationism states that life exists by divine acts and rejects the idea of evolution.
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Postby Laerod » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:19 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:
Laerod wrote:Why would anyone in their right mind think that natural selection stopped?

To further the egalitarianism myth. Different evolutionary pressures regarding intelligence, related to climate and geography, caused different levels of intelligence among humans. One continent of people must be smarter than the other, it's not possible to have 100% equality. Which is it?

That sounds oddly like Lamarckism. Intelligence is hardly a major factor in natural selection with the advent of civilization; people of a lower intelligence are unlikely to die off before procreating or fail to find a mate.

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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:20 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:

Not every single breed of dog was created by strict selective breeding, and you're link doesn't even say that.

Yes they were. My link doesn't NEED to say that, because it's obvious to any damn person actually capable of reading the link. Please name a breed that wasn't created by strict selective breeding and then give a source for that. I'll wait.
Norepinephrinistania wrote:A creationist is someone who denies the obvious reality of natural selection. Basically you.

Please. For the love of all that is righteous, study this.Image
Imperializt Russia wrote:
Norepinephrinistania wrote:They are not. Seasonal climates require different strategies, for example.

Stop selectively snipping out (shittily, at that) parts of posts you don't want to reply to because you'll lose.

It's dishonest, childish, shitty and frankly insulting tact, especially for someone so utterly self-convinced of how "science" backs his God-damned arguments.

Speaking of which:
Mavorpen wrote:Please put your money where your mouth is.
Mavorpen wrote:Still waiting on these genetic differences. Here, I'll give you a place to start. Point to me the genetic differences that are inherent and exclusive to each race.
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Postby Laerod » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:20 pm

Norepinephrinistania wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:You're doing it. Again.
And leaving in hilariously telltale signs that you're doing it.

Fucking respond.

Tell me how environmental factors can account for all racial IQ differences.

Schools. Parents that have time to teach their children. Children that have time to do homework rather than working to support their family.

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