Race and IQ

[Redsection]

Here is an interesting read.

( https://neuroscience.stanford.edu/news/ ... ou-smarter )

[USS Monitor]

Oh yay, misleading data, scientific misunderstanding, and racism all in one box. Has Christmas come early, mommy?

Nah, just summer.

[Russels Orbiting Teapot]

So blacks have inferior basic cognitive skills, regardless of wealth or culture? You're words, not mine.
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The word "skill" clearly denotes an element of learning, not a genetic element.

[Flyover]

Is this really how you spend your time? You go on the Internet and tell lies? Who does that?

[Norepinephrinistania]

If there is no genetic difference between races, why do we have so many obvious phenotypical differences?

More than just skin color.

Evolution is the answer to that. Why do people from hotter climates have curly hair. The answer to this is because the hair helps them sweat faster, thus cooling them faster. Why do some rabbits that live in hotter climates have such huge ears, it is because they need to cool down faster.

It takes more intelligence to survive in an area where you need to often alter your food-obtaining strategies. Natural selection has caused Eurasians to generally have more of these traits related to intelligence than the Africans they left behind.

[WCJNSTBH]

If there is no genetic difference between races, why do we have so many obvious phenotypical differences?

Because there aren't any. Rather, there are small ones that are irrelevant and superficial but we focus on because we've evolved to be social and visual creatures.

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More than just skin color.

Well no, it's nothing, really.

Also, you almost caught me. Reply to this:

Still waiting on these genetic differences. Here, I'll give you a place to start. Point to me the genetic differences that are inherent and exclusive to each race.

Your boundless tolerance of this and your repeated civility in explaining the last hundred years of biological science over and over and over.
Is admirable, you have my respect.

[Norepinephrinistania]

So blacks have inferior basic cognitive skills, regardless of wealth or culture? You're words, not mine.
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The word "skill" clearly denotes an element of learning, not a genetic element.

Cheetahs are skilled at running fast. Might be the colloquial usage of the word, but most would interpret skills as being either inborn or trained.

[MERIZoC]

Evolution is the answer to that. Why do people from hotter climates have curly hair. The answer to this is because the hair helps them sweat faster, thus cooling them faster. Why do some rabbits that live in hotter climates have such huge ears, it is because they need to cool down faster.

It takes more intelligence to survive in an area where you need to often alter your food-obtaining strategies. Natural selection has caused Eurasians to generally have more of these traits related to intelligence than the Africans they left behind.

Can you actually prove that, or are you just pulling it out of your ass? (hint: I know which one it is)

[Mavorpen]

Evolution is the answer to that. Why do people from hotter climates have curly hair. The answer to this is because the hair helps them sweat faster, thus cooling them faster. Why do some rabbits that live in hotter climates have such huge ears, it is because they need to cool down faster.

It takes more intelligence to survive in an area where you need to often alter your food-obtaining strategies. Natural selection has caused Eurasians to generally have more of these traits related to intelligence than the Africans they left behind.

The fuck? The "food obtaining strategies" are virtually identical for Eurasians as they are for Africans. The only difference is the actual foods themselves.

Also, you're not getting away.

If there is no genetic difference between races, why do we have so many obvious phenotypical differences?

Because there aren't any. Rather, there are small ones that are irrelevant and superficial but we focus on because we've evolved to be social and visual creatures.

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More than just skin color.

Well no, it's nothing, really.

Also, you almost caught me. Reply to this:

Still waiting on these genetic differences. Here, I'll give you a place to start. Point to me the genetic differences that are inherent and exclusive to each race.

[Norepinephrinistania]

It takes more intelligence to survive in an area where you need to often alter your food-obtaining strategies. Natural selection has caused Eurasians to generally have more of these traits related to intelligence than the Africans they left behind.

The fuck? The "food obtaining strategies" are virtually identical for Eurasians as they are for Africans. The only difference is the actual foods themselves.

Also, you're not getting away.

Because there aren't any. Rather, there are small ones that are irrelevant and superficial but we focus on because we've evolved to be social and visual creatures.

Well no, it's nothing, really.

Also, you almost caught me. Reply to this:

They are not. Seasonal climates require different strategies, for example.

[Redsection]

It takes more intelligence to survive in an area where you need to often alter your food-obtaining strategies. Natural selection has caused Eurasians to generally have more of these traits related to intelligence than the Africans they left behind.

Can you actually prove that, or are you just pulling it out of your ass? (hint: I know which one it is)

Who me ?

[Mavorpen]

They are not. Seasonal climates require different strategies, for example.

You do fucking realize that Africans faced this too, right? Like, you do know what hunting and gathering entails, right?
Also, stop selectively replying to my posts.

If there is no genetic difference between races, why do we have so many obvious phenotypical differences?

Because there aren't any. Rather, there are small ones that are irrelevant and superficial but we focus on because we've evolved to be social and visual creatures.

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More than just skin color.

Well no, it's nothing, really.

Also, you almost caught me. Reply to this:

Still waiting on these genetic differences. Here, I'll give you a place to start. Point to me the genetic differences that are inherent and exclusive to each race.

[Norepinephrinistania]

It takes more intelligence to survive in an area where you need to often alter your food-obtaining strategies. Natural selection has caused Eurasians to generally have more of these traits related to intelligence than the Africans they left behind.

The fuck? The "food obtaining strategies" are virtually identical for Eurasians as they are for Africans. The only difference is the actual foods themselves.

Also, you're not getting away.

Because there aren't any. Rather, there are small ones that are irrelevant and superficial but we focus on because we've evolved to be social and visual creatures.

Well no, it's nothing, really.

Also, you almost caught me. Reply to this:

If there are clear physical differences between races, why no intellectual differences? You have evaded how cultural differences cause over a standard deviation in IQ differences between whites and blacks, and why that's more likely than biological factors.

[USS Monitor]

Evolution is the answer to that. Why do people from hotter climates have curly hair. The answer to this is because the hair helps them sweat faster, thus cooling them faster. Why do some rabbits that live in hotter climates have such huge ears, it is because they need to cool down faster.

It takes more intelligence to survive in an area where you need to often alter your food-obtaining strategies. Natural selection has caused Eurasians to generally have more of these traits related to intelligence than the Africans they left behind.

Africa has its own evolutionary challenges like dealing with predators, dry climates where it is necessary to migrate in search of food and water, etc.

[Redsection]

Evolution is the answer to that. Why do people from hotter climates have curly hair. The answer to this is because the hair helps them sweat faster, thus cooling them faster. Why do some rabbits that live in hotter climates have such huge ears, it is because they need to cool down faster.

It takes more intelligence to survive in an area where you need to often alter your food-obtaining strategies. Natural selection has caused Eurasians to generally have more of these traits related to intelligence than the Africans they left behind.

Well you say this but all races have built mighty empires in the past , shall i name them.

[Grave_n_idle]

Given that you've admitted to cherrypicking results and not reading your own sources a few times now, you're the last person in this thread who gets to play the 'oh, I'm not biased, I'm just stating the cold, hard empirical facts' card.

Cold, hard, empirical facts.

Debatable.

SAT scores are a measure of scoring well on SATs.

And differences in SAT scores correlate most closely with amount of study and quality of education... so even when you present what you call 'fact', they don't support your agenda.

[MERIZoC]

The fuck? The "food obtaining strategies" are virtually identical for Eurasians as they are for Africans. The only difference is the actual foods themselves.

Also, you're not getting away.

If there are clear physical differences between races, why no intellectual differences? You have evaded how cultural differences cause over a standard deviation in IQ differences between whites and blacks, and why that's more likely than biological factors.

There aren't "clear" physical differences. There are only minor ones, with little to no relevance.

[Norepinephrinistania]

It takes more intelligence to survive in an area where you need to often alter your food-obtaining strategies. Natural selection has caused Eurasians to generally have more of these traits related to intelligence than the Africans they left behind.

Africa has its own evolutionary challenges like dealing with predators, dry climates where it is necessary to migrate in search of food and water, etc.

Vast majority of large human migrations have been within Eurasia, not Africa. This leads to constantly facing new intellectual challenges, and higher IQs as a result.

[Mavorpen]

If there are clear physical differences between races, why no intellectual differences?

There aren't any clear physical differences between races nor do races exist.

You have evaded how cultural differences cause over a standard deviation in IQ differences between whites and blacks, and why that's more likely than biological factors.

BAHAHAHAHAHA. No, I directly address it. Then when I did, completely ignored my response, choosing to instead reply to everything else in that post, as you are adept at doing.

Show me statistics that the gap has been narrowing over the years. Right now, the Flynn effect seems to be effecting everyone in America equally (though women are rising slightly faster than men).

http://people.virginia.edu/~ent3c/paper ... 012int.pdf

[Norepinephrinistania]

If there are clear physical differences between races, why no intellectual differences? You have evaded how cultural differences cause over a standard deviation in IQ differences between whites and blacks, and why that's more likely than biological factors.

There aren't "clear" physical differences. There are only minor ones, with little to no relevance.

Skull size and shape are minor and not relevant?

[Flyover]

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Cold, hard, empirical facts.

Debatable.

SAT scores are a measure of scoring well on SATs.

And differences in SAT scores correlate most closely with amount of study and quality of education... so even when you present what you call 'fact', they don't support your agenda.

Don't forget that there are several studies showing a racial bias written into the SAT, as well.
SAT is a stupid way to measure intelligence. So is IQ, actually.

Skull size and shape are minor and not relevant?

Yeah. Brain size doesn't matter, and neither do physical differences in the skull.

[Vassenor]

There aren't "clear" physical differences. There are only minor ones, with little to no relevance.

Skull size and shape are minor and not relevant?

Yes. Why can't you get that through your skull?

[MERIZoC]

There aren't "clear" physical differences. There are only minor ones, with little to no relevance.

Skull size and shape are minor and not relevant?

Yes.

[Redsection]

There aren't "clear" physical differences. There are only minor ones, with little to no relevance.

Skull size and shape are minor and not relevant?

They are not,You claim a unproven theroy is fact.

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I think this has to do with the different environments that black and white people usually grow up in. I'm no sociologist, but I think it's safe to assume that more black than white people grow up in poor areas and single-parent households. This makes it harder for these black kids to get as good of an education as white kids. Also, I'm not sure how much of an affect this might have, but poverty in the black community can lead to malnourishment, which might make it harder for children's brains to develop... but like I said, I'm not sure if that has any affect or not.