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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:36 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Nah, Esty is the biochemist. I'm entering my final year for undergrad biology.

Ah nice and congrats! Going to onto a Masters?

Also point out to OP that said stepfather is one of the people who has helped me realise that I want to go into science (and therefore hopefully in two or three years begin physics) and definitely don't want to be stuck in an embassy in the ass end of nowhere.

But you know, black people cannot into intelligence.

Thanks. Yeah, but I have yet to finalize a decision on whether I'll go immediately after graduation or find work in a research lab first for a bit and then move on to graduate school.
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Postby Caracasus » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:37 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:Didn't the human genome project pretty conclusively prove race has no scientific basis?


Shhhhh! Only the OP gets to decide what science is proper science! We're still working with phrenology here after all. The Human Genome project was probably cultural marxism or affirmative action or something.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:37 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:Didn't the human genome project pretty conclusively prove race has no scientific basis?

The ghost of Hitler himself could ascend from the depths of Hell to tell racists that they're wrong and they wouldn't believe him.

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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:37 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:Didn't the human genome project pretty conclusively prove race has no scientific basis?

It certainly enabled us to find that humans have a surprisingly low amount of genetic variation -- an amount much too small to allow us to categorize humans into "races." And what little variation we have is on the individual level and the majority of which is found within "races" than between them.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:44 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:For me, the worst thing about watching racists try to claim that their racism is justified by science is seeing them also go through the mental gymnastics of shifting their definition of "race" wherever they're backed into a corner. You'd think that people who supposedly pride themselves on being scientific would know that you can't just change the definition of a term according to your personal whims simply for the convenience of making your claim easier to argue for.

Well that's because they don't truly care about science.

It'll be hilarious seeing if he tries making it seem like white people are still trying to "make" black people look intelligent. And then probably try using yourself and my step-father as examples or something. Despite you actually being a scientist iirc (biochem?) and my stepfather doing such ballin' biomedical research that one of his professors (white one btw) stole his work and tried to pass it off as his own research.

That's not necessarily a racial thing though.
Professors always do that. Professors are usually dicks and pretty lazy.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:46 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Ah nice and congrats! Going to onto a Masters?

Also point out to OP that said stepfather is one of the people who has helped me realise that I want to go into science (and therefore hopefully in two or three years begin physics) and definitely don't want to be stuck in an embassy in the ass end of nowhere.

But you know, black people cannot into intelligence.

Thanks. Yeah, but I have yet to finalize a decision on whether I'll go immediately after graduation or find work in a research lab first for a bit and then move on to graduate school.

Mhm fair enough. Might be good to take a break from the studying before moving onto grad school. But I'm sure you'll do fine regardless of which route you take.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:48 am

Caracasus wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Didn't the human genome project pretty conclusively prove race has no scientific basis?


Shhhhh! Only the OP gets to decide what science is proper science! We're still working with phrenology here after all. The Human Genome project was probably cultural marxism or affirmative action or something.

Even better is when it's a nebulously defined, vague conspiracy or "SCIENTISTS ARE TOO AFRAID/CORRUPT TO SPEAK THE TRUTH!".
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Postby WCJNSTBH » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:49 am

Should I be disturbed this made it 15 pages, or did the OP fight his war alone?

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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:50 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Thanks. Yeah, but I have yet to finalize a decision on whether I'll go immediately after graduation or find work in a research lab first for a bit and then move on to graduate school.

Mhm fair enough. Might be good to take a break from the studying before moving onto grad school. But I'm sure you'll do fine regardless of which route you take.

It's looking likely given that I haven't had a real "summer break" due to taking courses pretty much every summer semester save one. :p
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:50 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Well that's because they don't truly care about science.

It'll be hilarious seeing if he tries making it seem like white people are still trying to "make" black people look intelligent. And then probably try using yourself and my step-father as examples or something. Despite you actually being a scientist iirc (biochem?) and my stepfather doing such ballin' biomedical research that one of his professors (white one btw) stole his work and tried to pass it off as his own research.

That's not necessarily a racial thing though.
Professors always do that. Professors are usually dicks and pretty lazy.

I wasn't saying it's a race thing. I know professors always do that, but you know given OP's thought process it shouldn't have happened because my stepfather being black = him being less intelligent and therefore no white professor would automatically be able to do better simply for being white.

Luckily my stepfather kept proper track of all of his work so he could prove that it was stolen. Prof wasn't fired (surprise *sarcasm*) but pretty much the paper now has my stepfather as one of the author's and acknowledges that he did pretty much all of the work.

It must have been extra awkward when about two years or so later the same prof was one of those he had to defend his PhD thesis to.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:51 am

WCJNSTBH wrote:Should I be disturbed this made it 15 pages, or did the OP fight his war alone?

Eh, racists and nazi fetishists rarely venture out of their backwater, /pol/ hugbox, so when the occasional racist or nazi fetishist invariably does, they tend not to get much backup.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:52 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
WCJNSTBH wrote:Should I be disturbed this made it 15 pages, or did the OP fight his war alone?

Eh, racists and nazi fetishists rarely venture out of their backwater, /pol/ hugbox, so when the occasional racist or nazi fetishist invariably does, they tend not to get much backup.

Yeah things have calmed down since Stormfront stopped doing their raids and whatnot. I remember those from when I first joined. They were fun.

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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:54 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
WCJNSTBH wrote:Should I be disturbed this made it 15 pages, or did the OP fight his war alone?

Eh, racists and nazi fetishists rarely venture out of their backwater, /pol/ hugbox, so when the occasional racist or nazi fetishist invariably does, they tend not to get much backup.

And even when they do, it's one or two who trickle in, make a few posts, then vanish. And all without dealing with the Fire Nation's attacks.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:58 am

Mavorpen wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Eh, racists and nazi fetishists rarely venture out of their backwater, /pol/ hugbox, so when the occasional racist or nazi fetishist invariably does, they tend not to get much backup.

And even when they do, it's one or two who trickle in, make a few posts, then vanish. And all without dealing with the Fire Nation's attacks.

For a people that always call everyone who isn't a bigoted nazi fetishist a loser beta faggot, the fine folks at /pol/ and Stormfront (and similar bigoted nazi fetishists) sure can't take any fucking criticism without melting down.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:58 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Mhm fair enough. Might be good to take a break from the studying before moving onto grad school. But I'm sure you'll do fine regardless of which route you take.

It's looking likely given that I haven't had a real "summer break" due to taking courses pretty much every summer semester save one. :p

:blink: Damn man, why'd you do that to yourself? :P

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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:59 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:It's looking likely given that I haven't had a real "summer break" due to taking courses pretty much every summer semester save one. :p

:blink: Damn man, why'd you do that to yourself? :P

I'm a masochist. *nods*
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:04 am

Zottistan wrote:If there is a geographical or racial relation to IQ, it's no small secret that white people tend to have more money than pretty much any other ethnic group, thus they tend to be better educated, thus they have higher average IQs.

IQ is also a really dumb way of measuring intelligence.



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The Nuclear Fist wrote:For a people that always call everyone who isn't a bigoted nazi fetishist a loser beta faggot, the fine folks at /pol/ and Stormfront (and similar bigoted nazi fetishists) sure can't take any fucking criticism without melting down.


Here's the thing - /pol/ calls itself Beta. It knows that it's Beta. That's why there's the Beta Uprising Pepe. If they were alpha, they wouldn't be whining about men's rights on /pol/.

Every once and a while, I go there to say objectively factual leftist things to get reactions. Fun times.
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Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
Zottistan wrote:If there is a geographical or racial relation to IQ, it's no small secret that white people tend to have more money than pretty much any other ethnic group, thus they tend to be better educated, thus they have higher average IQs.

IQ is also a really dumb way of measuring intelligence.



IQ isn't your intelligence, iit's how fast you can learn.


It is not. When you take an IQ test and it spits out a result, all it's telling you is the score you got on the test divided by the median score of a sample of people in your age group.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:22 am

Greater Istanistan wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:For a people that always call everyone who isn't a bigoted nazi fetishist a loser beta faggot, the fine folks at /pol/ and Stormfront (and similar bigoted nazi fetishists) sure can't take any fucking criticism without melting down.


Here's the thing - /pol/ calls itself Beta. It knows that it's Beta. That's why there's the Beta Uprising Pepe. If they were alpha, they wouldn't be whining about men's rights on /pol/.

Every once and a while, I go there to say objectively factual leftist things to get reactions. Fun times.

See, I've been too /pol/ A lot of them call themselves beta, but just as many boast about being a part of GLORIOUS ARYAN MASTER RACE and being better than the "lesser" races. They're homophobic, anti-semitic, sexist, and generally quite bigoted, and they speak in terms of superiority to those who they deem less than them or those who hold different political and social views. Often this involves a lot of tough talk.

Yet they can't seem be able to cope with people disagreeing with them. Wonder why that is. . . :v
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:26 am

Greater Istanistan wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:For a people that always call everyone who isn't a bigoted nazi fetishist a loser beta faggot, the fine folks at /pol/ and Stormfront (and similar bigoted nazi fetishists) sure can't take any fucking criticism without melting down.


Here's the thing - /pol/ calls itself Beta. It knows that it's Beta. That's why there's the Beta Uprising Pepe. If they were alpha, they wouldn't be whining about men's rights on /pol/.

Every once and a while, I go there to say objectively factual leftist things to get reactions. Fun times.

Trolling the likes of /pol/ and Stormfront is always fun. Especially when the trolling is using facts.
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Napkiraly wrote: :blink: Damn man, why'd you do that to yourself? :P

I'm a masochist. *nods*
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The Conez Imperium wrote:Are you seriously suggesting brain size correlates to intelligence?

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:31 am

Risottia wrote:
The Conez Imperium wrote:Are you seriously suggesting brain size correlates to intelligence?

Cesare Lombroso is boss, yo.

Which Ninja Turtle was he?
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Postby Angleter » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:34 am

Norepinephrinistania wrote:Having left Africa, Euraians evolved further away from chimpanzees. This is supported by DNA evidence. (Image)


Putting all the other rubbish aside, this chart seems to state the exact opposite of what the OP says - Englishmen, Japanese, and Nigerians are all 1.60 away from chimpanzees.
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The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Risottia wrote:Cesare Lombroso is boss, yo.

Which Ninja Turtle was he?

The one with the outside calipers to measure skulls. Phrenology power!
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