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Best Military of all time?

Postby Usaimar » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:38 am

Anyone have any ideas on the Best Military of all time?

I had a discussion with some people in my region awhile ago, and we all couldn't decide on one army that was the greatest. They all had their own triumphs that were amazing and battles that stunned everyone. There were so many options, but we came to a consensus on the best ones of all time. We decided that the best were;

Army under King Carolus the XII of Sweden: Alone, the Swedish Army during the 17th and 18th Century took over Denmark, Lithuania, and almost Russia, until they were finally exhausted and were forced to retreat. They won massive victories, often against forces almost 4x their own size.

Nazi Wehrmacht: This one is obvious, they took over most of Europe by 1941, and almost all of Russia. The only thing that stopped them was the Americans joining the war. They were one of our top 3 best armies ever.

American Army: This one is also obvious, the American Army in the 20th and 21st Centuries is an extremely formidable force that continues to flex its muscles on a global scale, from World War One, all the way to today in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Roman Army under Julius Caesar: The Roman Army conquered much, but eventually grew weary of Julius Caesar's influence and power, so much so that they were going to remove him from power. This caused a full civil war, which ended up with Julius Caesar's forces coming out on top, creating a massive empire that stretched from the Middle East to the Cliffs of Dover.

Red Army: The Red Army was on the point of Defeat against the might of Nazi Germany, but came back from the brink to almost single handedly win World War Two. At their highest point, The Red Army had the most soldiers ever in a fighting force, at over 16,000,000 Men, Women, and Children.

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:39 am

Obligatory tiny country that never fought in any wars.
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Postby Ratopia » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:43 am

I dont think the U.S army was that powerful in the 1900's. Late 1900's yes only because everyone else suffered greately in the world wars. What abut the Mongols? Or the Greeks?

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Postby Scyobayrynn » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:43 am

Mongol forces under Genghis Khan, continuously outnumbered conquered more land area then anyone else in history, secured the silk road shaping the modern world as we know it today, influencing the very ideas of how rapid harrassing forces can defeat heavier ones.
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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:45 am

The Franks under Charlemagne.
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Postby Adurnak » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:45 am

You forgot the Mongols and their army under Genghis Khan which conquered almost all of the land from the east to the middle east.
Alexander the Great's army which conquered half the known world (for the Greeks anyway).
Napoleons grand army which pretty much forced most of Europe to drive on the right side of the road, among other things.
And of course the British military which helped a drab little island in the north Atlantic, forge the largest empire ever to grace this planet.
Carthage's and Attila the Hun's respective militaries should also get special mentions because although ultimately beaten they both put up a hell of a good fight before going down.
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Postby Usaimar » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:48 am

Adurnak wrote:You forgot the Mongols and their army under Genghis Khan which conquered almost all of the land from the east to the middle east, Alexander the Great's army which conquered half the known world (for the Greeks anyway), Napoleon and his grand army which pretty much forced most of Europe to drive on the right side of the road, among other things, and also the British military which forged the largest empire ever to grace this planet.

I don't know, personally, I think the greatest army of all time was the German Wehrmacht.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:53 am

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Ifreann wrote:Obligatory tiny country that never fought in any wars.

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Oh and no the Wehrmacht did not take over most of fucking Russia, look at maps of WW2 sometime would you please. And it was not just the Americans who stopped them, they were doomed the second they lost the Battle of Britain and invaded the USSR.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:56 am

Ifreann wrote:Obligatory tiny country that never fought in any wars.


Your case for Nauru is strangely compelling, but perhaps you can provide more in the way of superficially convincing detail presented via stereotypical NSG grandstanding, as typically used in these forums to mask lack of actual in-depth knowledge on the subject?

Not that we'll see any of that in this thread, I'm sure.

So... Nauru... It's all about the phosphate, no doubt....
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Postby Risottia » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:56 am

I think the best overall was the military of the British Empire, which combined innovation, superior logistics, good training, ingenuity, and an impressive ability to fight simultaneously on many different parts of the globe.
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Postby Auzkhia » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:57 am

The Liechtensteiner Army, they went to war against Prussia in 1866 with 80 soldiers, and they returned home with 81 soldiers.
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Postby Scyobayrynn » Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:06 am

Usaimar wrote:
Adurnak wrote:You forgot the Mongols and their army under Genghis Khan which conquered almost all of the land from the east to the middle east, Alexander the Great's army which conquered half the known world (for the Greeks anyway), Napoleon and his grand army which pretty much forced most of Europe to drive on the right side of the road, among other things, and also the British military which forged the largest empire ever to grace this planet.

I don't know, personally, I think the greatest army of all time was the German Wehrmacht.

Based on what?
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Postby Usaimar » Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:07 am

Auzkhia wrote:The Liechtensteiner Army, they went to war against Prussia in 1866 with 80 soldiers, and they returned home with 81 soldiers.

10/10 Better than Wehrmacht
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:07 am

Scyobayrynn wrote:
Usaimar wrote:I don't know, personally, I think the greatest army of all time was the German Wehrmacht.

Based on what?

Wait for it...
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Postby Usaimar » Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:08 am

Scyobayrynn wrote:
Usaimar wrote:I don't know, personally, I think the greatest army of all time was the German Wehrmacht.

Based on what?

Based on Military Genius, Technology, Soldier Quality, and amount of land conquered per year(up to 1942)
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Postby Aelex » Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:08 am

The French Army of course. You can't be the European continental powerhouse for more than a millenary without having the best military. Now, I would say that Louis XVI's army was honestly one of the most efficient and powerful of it's time but no army can get to the level of the Grande Armée of Napoléon. Nowadays, our army is still one of the most powerful of the world. So yeah, definitely one of the best if not the best.
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Postby Ensydia » Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:08 am

The Wehrmacht.

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Postby Scyobayrynn » Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:09 am

Risottia wrote:I think the best overall was the military of the British Empire, which combined innovation, superior logistics, good training, ingenuity, and an impressive ability to fight simultaneously on many different parts of the globe.

If we are making a distinction between modern and ancient, I would agree whole heartedly.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:13 am

All the evidence suggests that the best military of all time belonged to Rome.
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Grave_n_idle wrote:All the evidence suggests that the best military of all time belonged to Rome.

Under which military commander though?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:15 am

Scyobayrynn wrote:Mongol forces under Genghis Khan, continuously outnumbered conquered more land area then anyone else in history, secured the silk road shaping the modern world as we know it today, influencing the very ideas of how rapid harrassing forces can defeat heavier ones.


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Armies of the Usermaatre Setepenre.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:17 am

PQ Forge wrote:French Military "Victories"

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_ ... _of_France

Yes, actually.
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Postby Risottia » Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:17 am

Usaimar wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:All the evidence suggests that the best military of all time belonged to Rome.

Under which military commander though?

If I were to choose, it would be Traianus.
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