A Message to Atheists.

[Consaria]

OK. I hear alot of Atheists on this forum overwhelming religious posts. So I decided that I should do something to help the. Now, most of the atheist arguments I here are 1. There is no proof, and 2. the is scientific stuff that disproves the Bible. So I will address number one first.

You may ask "If God is real, what doesn't he ever show himself?" Well, most of the Bible surrounds having faith in God. But there is no reason for faith because there is proof. People wouldn't believe in God because they have faith in him, but because they know if they don't they will burn in Hell for eternity. Think about it. You are not going to deny that computers exist, because you are staring at one right now. So of course God has to do something. So thousands of years ago God showed himself for a few years so people knew who he was. Then he told people to write about him. And since all those people died we've had to have faith. So God knows who have enough faith to go to Heaven. So what I'm summing it up to be here is ,of course there is no proof in God, because with proof there is no need for faith, and there is no point in the Heaven/Hell system without faith.

Now number two. This is a hard one to disprove. Because we have solid proof that evolution occurred. I think God uses science to get to earth. It all goes back to that faith thing. Naturally God knows humans will look for answers. Because faith is just not enough sometimes. But like I said. God like faith. So people can't look back 8,000 years and say "God did it." So God used tools to test us. People who don't believe in religion are the ones who failed this test. Not actually bad. They just failed. I'm not saying we didn't come from monkeys, I'm just saying God made us from monkeys. God made the big boom, evolution, weather, everything. For everything he came up with a buyable answer. So God is testing us all. Just like some Christian scientist said when asked how he can believe in God with all this around us. "How can you NOT believe in God with all this around us."

I'm not asking you to change you beliefs here. Just remember this next time you bashing a God thread.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Your point?

[Fartsniffage]

Well done. You've presented arguments never heard before on NSG.

[Banshee grendels]

-Snipped-it was all propaganda

[Humanist Secularism]

"How can you NOT believe in God with all this around us."

Because I can explain things without presuming magic.

[Blitzkrenia]

You've basically summed up the theists' arguments. If either could be disproven or proven, why would there still be God threads all over the place?

[Banshee grendels]

Well done. You've presented arguments never heard before on NSG.

But which are still wrong.

[United Dependencies]

You need to stop interpreting the bible literally. Science and religion work great together when you do.

[Barringtonia]

I have faith this thread will be resolved to everyone's satisfaction by the end of page one.

God bless NSG.

[Grandais]

wtf is this? These arguments are terrible.

[Ashmoria]

gee thanks but why would you assume that atheists dont know those things already?

we just dont believe them ourselves.

[Waterlow]

I'll be sure to pass it on.

[Fartsniffage]

I have faith this thread will be resolved to everyone's satisfaction by the end of page one.

God bless NSG.

Shut up you godless commie.

[Khornate Worshippers]

If you knew something was a complete lie, and you'd get killed if you spread it, would you spread it?

[Banshee grendels]

"How can you NOT believe in God with all this around us."

Becuse acording to that book the planet should be flat. It isn't

[Niur]

OK. I hear alot of Atheists on this forum overwhelming religious posts. So I decided that I should do something to help the. Now, most of the atheist arguments I here are 1. There is no proof, and 2. the is scientific stuff that disproves the Bible. So I will address number one first.

You may ask "If God is real, what doesn't he ever show himself?" Well, most of the Bible surrounds having faith in God. But there is no reason for faith because there is proof. People wouldn't believe in God because they have faith in him, but because they know if they don't they will burn in Hell for eternity. Think about it. You are not going to deny that computers exist, because you are staring at one right now. So of course God has to do something. So thousands of years ago God showed himself for a few years so people knew who he was. Then he told people to write about him. And since all those people died we've had to have faith. So God knows who have enough faith to go to Heaven. So what I'm summing it up to be here is ,of course there is no proof in God, because with proof there is no need for faith, and there is no point in the Heaven/Hell system without faith.

Now number two. This is a hard one to disprove. Because we have solid proof that evolution occurred. I think God uses science to get to earth. It all goes back to that faith thing. Naturally God knows humans will look for answers. Because faith is just not enough sometimes. But like I said. God like faith. So people can't look back 8,000 years and say "God did it." So God used tools to test us. People who don't believe in religion are the ones who failed this test. Not actually bad. They just failed. I'm not saying we didn't come from monkeys, I'm just saying God made us from monkeys. God made the big boom, evolution, weather, everything. For everything he came up with a buyable answer. So God is testing us all. Just like some Christian scientist said when asked how he can believe in God with all this around us. "How can you NOT believe in God with all this around us."

I'm not asking you to change you beliefs here. Just remember this next time you bashing a God thread.

Ugh, so many corrections.

[Solarva]

Okay.

[Bodies Without Organs]

So what I'm summing it up to be here is ,of course there is no proof in God, because with proof there is no need for faith, and there is no point in the Heaven/Hell system without faith.

So, you're saying that you don't know if God exists?

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

You may ask "If God is real, what doesn't he ever show himself?" Well, most of the Bible surrounds having faith in God. But there is no reason for faith because there is proof. People wouldn't believe in God because they have faith in him, but because they know if they don't they will burn in Hell for eternity. Think about it. You are not going to deny that computers exist, because you are staring at one right now. So of course God has to do something. So thousands of years ago God showed himself for a few years so people knew who he was. Then he told people to write about him. And since all those people died we've had to have faith. So God knows who have enough faith to go to Heaven. So what I'm summing it up to be here is ,of course there is no proof in God, because with proof there is no need for faith, and there is no point in the Heaven/Hell system without faith.

Even with faith, the heaven/hell system doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense.

Now I've got a question for you. Why is faith good? Why is faith so special that god doesn't reveal himself just so that we can still have faith rather than scientific fact? "Faith" is simply the belief in a proposition without any evidence. I fail to see how it is inherently virtuous.

[Banshee grendels]

You need to stop interpreting the bible literally.

No you just have to stop interpreting it at all and think for yourself.

[Ashmoria]

If you knew something was a complete lie, and you'd get killed if you spread it, would you spread it?

dunno, would i get pie before i died?

[Barringtonia]

Even with faith, the heaven/hell system doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense.

Now I've got a question for you. Why is faith good? Why is faith so special that god doesn't reveal himself just so that we can still have faith rather than scientific fact? "Faith" is simply the belief in a proposition without any evidence. I fail to see how it is inherently virtuous.

Without faith, there's no free choice, you can hardly choose to believe in him if he reveals himself.

That's just one aspect of his enormous love for us.

[Khornate Worshippers]

Another thing.

I've heard so many people just going on about the so-called 'problem of evil', asking why, if God was perfect, would He create evil. Missed a greater question: If God was perfect, why did he create at all?

[Maurepas]

Thats a very interesting, and well thought out, very original set of arguments you have there, mon frère...

[The Republic of Lanos]

I propose for everytime atheists wreck a Christianity thread, we wreck their threads.

if you disagree with that, STOP WRECKING THEIR THREADS!