EU. and fleeing Immigrants

[Rio Cana]

It seems no one has mentioned it but they have been having it on the news. Syrians in France trying to storm across that tunnel into the UK. The Syrians are living in shanty type of towns near the tunnel while the French authorities watch on. They say they are overwhelmed which kind of sounds like a cop out. I think it is an outrage that something like this is going on in a part of the world that likes to say they are the best thing on this planet. If France or any EU. nation let them into there nation then its there responsibility to take care of them by finding them housing and employment. There is something wrong with letting in people to just have them live in shanty towns . That is not doing them any good and is tarnishing Frances and the other EU. nations with the same problem so called humanitarian image.

Has for the UK. response, at least they are being honest. They do not want to be caught up in this and they have said so. Seems the UK. will be putting up more fencing on the French side. It seems the EU. really dropped the ball on this one. They really need to find a solution which works.

So what do you think.

[Pope Joan]

The EU wants to criminalize those who bring the fleeing immigrants to their shoes, dubbing them "human traffickers"

as if those refugees were being sold into a life a servitude or prostitution.

Nope, Europe, that destiny is your decision for them.

Posture about human rights and deny those at your doorstep, hypocrites.

[Dortmundia]

The best solution would be if the Libyan civil war ends and the new government act as a fortress against illegal immigration (just like in Gadafis era). Of curse the new government would need a lot of support from the EU.

[New Werpland]

One solution would be to support the right people in the countries from where these refugees or immigrants come from, Somalia for example. They've benefited from erdogan's economic support quite a bit, some substantial western influence wouldn't hurt.

[Shilya]

If France or any EU. nation let them into there nation then its there responsibility to take care of them by finding them housing and employment.

Well there's the whole "illegal immigration" part, where the EU didn't voluntarily let them in, it just permits them to stay for a while, considering that shipping them back would put them in more serious danger. The shantytown in the friendlier alternative to packing them on ships and sending them back. Go ask them which of the two they prefer.

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The EU wants to criminalize those who bring the fleeing immigrants to their shoes, dubbing them "human traffickers"

What do you call people who take money for illegaly shipping people to another country?

[The Nihilistic view]

It seems no one has mentioned it but they have been having it on the news. Syrians in France trying to storm across that tunnel into the UK. The Syrians are living in shanty type of towns near the tunnel while the French authorities watch on. They say they are overwhelmed which kind of sounds like a cop out. I think it is an outrage that something like this is going on in a part of the world that likes to say they are the best thing on this planet. If France or any EU. nation let them into there nation then its there responsibility to take care of them by finding them housing and employment. There is something wrong with letting in people to just have them live in shanty towns . That is not doing them any good and is tarnishing Frances and the other EU. nations with the same problem so called humanitarian image.

Has for the UK. response, at least they are being honest. They do not want to be caught up in this and they have said so. Seems the UK. will be putting up more fencing on the French side. It seems the EU. really dropped the ball on this one. They really need to find a solution which works.

So what do you think.

They are still Asylum Seekers that's why the French are doing nothing, they are happy for the to move to Britain whilst Britain tries to stop them from crossing. They are illegal immigrants, they have not just been "let in" so to say the French let them in so should help them is rather at odds with reality.

To be honest they need putting in a camp they can't escape from and then have their asylum requests processed ASAP so those with a genuine case can have a new life whilst the those who don't get sent back where they came from. It's kinder in the long run than just keeping them in limbo.

[Great Nilfgaard]

The people camped out in Calais are not Syrians, they are overwhelmingly from places like Sudan and Niger.

It is common knowledge that there are plenty of safe countries between them and Britain. If they were actually desperately seeking safety and asylum they'd be grateful even just to stay in Egypt, Greece or Turkey. Instead they descend on the Eurotunnel, breaking things, putting themselves and motorists in danger and generally being a massive fucking nuisance.

It is not U.K's responsibility to look after these people.

[The Republican United States]

It seems no one has mentioned it but they have been having it on the news. Syrians in France trying to storm across that tunnel into the UK. The Syrians are living in shanty type of towns near the tunnel while the French authorities watch on. They say they are overwhelmed which kind of sounds like a cop out. I think it is an outrage that something like this is going on in a part of the world that likes to say they are the best thing on this planet. If France or any EU. nation let them into there nation then its there responsibility to take care of them by finding them housing and employment. There is something wrong with letting in people to just have them live in shanty towns . That is not doing them any good and is tarnishing Frances and the other EU. nations with the same problem so called humanitarian image.

Has for the UK. response, at least they are being honest. They do not want to be caught up in this and they have said so. Seems the UK. will be putting up more fencing on the French side. It seems the EU. really dropped the ball on this one. They really need to find a solution which works.

So what do you think.

Why should Europe become a refugee camp?

[Pope Joan]

The people camped out in Calais are not Syrians, they are overwhelmingly from places like Sudan and Niger.

It is common knowledge that there are plenty of safe countries between them and Britain. If they were actually desperately seeking safety and asylum they'd be grateful even just to stay in Egypt, Greece or Turkey. Instead they descend on the Eurotunnel, breaking things, putting themselves and motorists in danger and generally being a massive fucking nuisance.

It is not U.K's responsibility to look after these people.

Turkey? Are you kidding?

[Great Nilfgaard]

The people camped out in Calais are not Syrians, they are overwhelmingly from places like Sudan and Niger.

It is common knowledge that there are plenty of safe countries between them and Britain. If they were actually desperately seeking safety and asylum they'd be grateful even just to stay in Egypt, Greece or Turkey. Instead they descend on the Eurotunnel, breaking things, putting themselves and motorists in danger and generally being a massive fucking nuisance.

It is not U.K's responsibility to look after these people.

Turkey? Are you kidding?

Their life would not be in immediate danger in Turkey or Greece. Sure they might not get a free apartment funded by the taxpayer but actual refugees wouldn't expect that in the first place. Opportunistic economic migrants do, which brings us to the ridiculous situation in Calais.

Beggars can't be choosers.

[Val Halla]

I don't think it's as big a deal as the media is making it out to be, TBH

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

The only lasting solution to the crisis is substantial EU and international diplomatic efforts to halt the civil wars and repression that are dominating most of the countries these migrants are fleeing from and invest in reconstructing their infrastructures and economies such that the people living there are no longer desperate enough to try crossing the Mediterranean in an inflatable dinghy.

[Lordieth]

I don't think it's as big a deal as the media is making it out to be, TBH

This problem has been going on for a very long time, and it's of no surprise that it has escalated to this. They catch the refugees attempting to stowaway or get into the tunnel, and they just arrest them and stick them back in their dreary camp to try another day. If the French don't deal with the problem head on, it's only going to get worse and worse.

David Cameron's solution? Better fences and sniffer dogs. For christ's sake. Talk about pushing an issue into the long grass. I think four refugees have died within the last month alone just trying to get through.

[Neo Bulgariya]

I don't think it's as big a deal as the media is making it out to be, TBH

Yes. Yes it is.

[Ashworth-Attwater]

It seems no one has mentioned it but they have been having it on the news. Syrians in France trying to storm across that tunnel into the UK. The Syrians are living in shanty type of towns near the tunnel while the French authorities watch on. They say they are overwhelmed which kind of sounds like a cop out. I think it is an outrage that something like this is going on in a part of the world that likes to say they are the best thing on this planet. If France or any EU. nation let them into there nation then its there responsibility to take care of them by finding them housing and employment. There is something wrong with letting in people to just have them live in shanty towns . That is not doing them any good and is tarnishing Frances and the other EU. nations with the same problem so called humanitarian image.

Has for the UK. response, at least they are being honest. They do not want to be caught up in this and they have said so. Seems the UK. will be putting up more fencing on the French side. It seems the EU. really dropped the ball on this one. They really need to find a solution which works.

So what do you think.

Why should Europe become a refugee camp?

Because they signed the 1951 Refugee Convention and it wouldn't become a refugee camp. That statement has led me to believe you have no idea what a refugee camp is, you're trivializing the situation of refugees out of denseness.

[Dooom35796821595]

I don't think it's as big a deal as the media is making it out to be, TBH

This problem has been going on for a very long time, and it's of no surprise that it has escalated to this. They catch them attempting to stowaway or get into the tunnel, and they just arrest them and stick them back in their dreary camp to try another day. If the French don't deal with the problem head on, it's only going to get worse and worse.

David Cameron's solution? Better fences and sniffer dogs. For christs sake. Talk about pushing an issue into the long grass.

Have to be careful of wild Pokemon encounters...

The blame lies both with the French, the EU and the refugees. Like others have said, there are many countries to seek asylum before reaching the UK.

[Lordieth]

This problem has been going on for a very long time, and it's of no surprise that it has escalated to this. They catch them attempting to stowaway or get into the tunnel, and they just arrest them and stick them back in their dreary camp to try another day. If the French don't deal with the problem head on, it's only going to get worse and worse.

David Cameron's solution? Better fences and sniffer dogs. For christs sake. Talk about pushing an issue into the long grass.

Have to be careful of wild Pokemon encounters...

The blame lies both with the French, the EU and the refugees. Like others have said, there are many countries to seek asylum before reaching the UK.

There are, but it seems governments are more interested in talking about how to keep the migrants out, rather than helping them, or even getting to the root of the crisis as to why they're fleeing their countries of origin in the first place. It's like trying to put a sticking plaster on a gangrenous leg.

[Rio Cana]

It seems for the EU, in the long run, the UN is there best answer. More funding for the UN in the places they are currently housing these immigrants. like in Jordan and surrounding nations. In other words, turn those UN areas into mini-economic zones where people can work and educate themselves just like what most would be doing back in there own nations. The UN would continue doing this until the wars in there nations end. In that time period, while working and educating them and while waiting for the situation to stabilize in those nations, the UN can make up a list of people who would more then qualified to migrate to the EU. or other nations. Of course, this will take money and private business. Has long has there is no exploitation it could work.

[Val Halla]

I don't think it's as big a deal as the media is making it out to be, TBH

This problem has been going on for a very long time, and it's of no surprise that it has escalated to this. They catch the refugees attempting to stowaway or get into the tunnel, and they just arrest them and stick them back in their dreary camp to try another day. If the French don't deal with the problem head on, it's only going to get worse and worse.

David Cameron's solution? Better fences and sniffer dogs. For christ's sake. Talk about pushing an issue into the long grass. I think four refugees have died within the last month alone just trying to get through.

It seems problem dodging, yes.

I don't think it's as big a deal as the media is making it out to be, TBH

Yes. Yes it is.

How?

[Geilinor]

This problem has been going on for a very long time, and it's of no surprise that it has escalated to this. They catch them attempting to stowaway or get into the tunnel, and they just arrest them and stick them back in their dreary camp to try another day. If the French don't deal with the problem head on, it's only going to get worse and worse.

David Cameron's solution? Better fences and sniffer dogs. For christs sake. Talk about pushing an issue into the long grass.

Have to be careful of wild Pokemon encounters...

The blame lies both with the French, the EU and the refugees. Like others have said, there are many countries to seek asylum before reaching the UK.

Each country says no and tries to move the refugees on to the next one.

[Lordieth]

Have to be careful of wild Pokemon encounters...

The blame lies both with the French, the EU and the refugees. Like others have said, there are many countries to seek asylum before reaching the UK.

Each country says no and tries to move the refugees on to the next one.

Actually, most of the refugees intentionally enter the country without carrying any documentation, making it very difficult to identify where to deport them to.

[Val Halla]

Have to be careful of wild Pokemon encounters...

The blame lies both with the French, the EU and the refugees. Like others have said, there are many countries to seek asylum before reaching the UK.

Each country says no and tries to move the refugees on to the next one.

Nigel Farage said we should only accept Christian refugees.

I don't blame refugees for being refugees.

[Dooom35796821595]

Each country says no and tries to move the refugees on to the next one.

Nigel Farage said we should only accept Christian refugees.

I don't blame refugees for being refugees.

Bugh, Christians are no better at assimilating to british society then Muslims. Silly Farage.

The difficulty is separating the real refugees from economic migrants, then deciding who deals with them and how.

[Val Halla]

Nigel Farage said we should only accept Christian refugees.

I don't blame refugees for being refugees.

Bugh, Christians are no better at assimilating to british society then Muslims. Silly Farage.

The difficulty is separating the real refugees from economic migrants, then deciding who deals with them and how.

I see no criticism of that either. Surely you're given an opportunity for a better life, you take it, no? We can't blame them, I don't think.

[Dooom35796821595]

Bugh, Christians are no better at assimilating to british society then Muslims. Silly Farage.

The difficulty is separating the real refugees from economic migrants, then deciding who deals with them and how.

I see no criticism of that either. Surely you're given an opportunity for a better life, you take it, no? We can't blame them, I don't think.

No, you go through proper channels and prove you will benefit the country you seek to live in, as well as knowing the language and local laws and customs. And before anyone responds by saying Brits do that, I happen to dislike such practices.