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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:18 am

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Cannabis Islands wrote:Yes, you damn well did imply that. You have been saying that LGBT people should be sensitive to the Muslims because they are being "oppressed" just like LGBT people.

Show me goddamned where I did it outside of your brain. I'll wait.

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Postby New Grestin » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:19 am

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New Grestin wrote:A right-wing political party deliberately inflaming a Muslim population?

What. A. Fucking. Shocker.

That said, I find the idea of a gay-pride parade traipsing through a homophobic Muslim neighborhood infinitely amusing.


Just as amusing as the possibility of the people in the parade being injured or killed all to play out the right-wing party's plan?

Well, moreso the idea of the people in the neighborhood just staring on as everyone else has a blast. Frankly, my mental image is a lot funnier than the reality.

That said, this whole plan is hairbrained and stupid. If it works, which it probably will, because people are dumb, then all it's going to do is inflame the Muslim population and the LGBT movement, which really accomplishes nothing.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:19 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Yes obviously decapitation and burning alive is a minor concern.

I'm unmoved. I will say it again!! If refuges don't like the country they are staying in, they can leave. I'm not changing that position.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Yes obviously decapitation and burning alive is a minor concern.

I'm unmoved. I will say it again!! If refuges don't like the country they are staying in, they can leave. I'm not changing that position.

Well, actually...
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:19 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Yes obviously decapitation and burning alive is a minor concern.

I'm unmoved. I will say it again!! If refuges don't like the country they are staying in, they can leave. I'm not changing that position.

So we are tossing the fucking baby out together with the bloody bathwater because somebody decided that pissing an ethnic group off on one of their issues in a riot area is a good idea, and from there assume all current attempts at intergration are a massive failure and we should just fucking surrender?

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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:19 am

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Cannabis Islands wrote:Yes, you damn well did imply that. You have been saying that LGBT people should be sensitive to the Muslims because they are being "oppressed" just like LGBT people.

It's a sensitive issue because it's done in a area with previous rioting playing host to a lot of people that are not going to view this too kindly.

Shit! If they are fucking starting riots, Sweden needs to get their shit together and start issuing deportations.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:20 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:I'm unmoved. I will say it again!! If refuges don't like the country they are staying in, they can leave. I'm not changing that position.

Someday we'll figure out how in God's name a complete inability to listen to or show sympathy for other people is in any way an evolutionary advantage.


Obviously a Randian self-absorption enables Survival of the Fittest.
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Cannabis Islands wrote:I'm unmoved. I will say it again!! If refuges don't like the country they are staying in, they can leave. I'm not changing that position.

Well, actually...

Then they can go to non-EU nation that matches their values.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:20 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:It's a sensitive issue because it's done in a area with previous rioting playing host to a lot of people that are not going to view this too kindly.

Shit! If they are fucking starting riots, Sweden needs to get their shit together and start issuing deportations.

And how is inciting a riot not a bad idea?

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Postby Revanchism » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:21 am

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Revanchism wrote:Show me goddamned where I did it outside of your brain. I'll wait.

Here you go

I'm glad to see that you interpreted a post that states, and I quote "One should be able to work through those conflicts(Or at the very least attempt to do so) to achieve a mutual understanding. There's something quite jarring when one flat out refuses to try" as "Muslims are more oppressed than LGBT people"
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:21 am

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Cannabis Islands wrote:Shit! If they are fucking starting riots, Sweden needs to get their shit together and start issuing deportations.

And how is inciting a riot not a bad idea?

It is not "inciting" to hold a rally or a parade. Here we go again, holding Muslims to lower standard.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:22 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:It's a sensitive issue because it's done in a area with previous rioting playing host to a lot of people that are not going to view this too kindly.

Shit! If they are fucking starting riots, Sweden needs to get their shit together and start issuing deportations.


Sacrificing the lives of Swedish LGBTs to enable a mass deportation of darkies, just like the SD planned. And you claim to be for LGBT rights.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:23 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:And how is inciting a riot not a bad idea?

It is not "inciting" to hold a rally or a parade. Here we go again, holding Muslims to lower standard.

They spent December 2013 burning cars across the neighbourhood. I think it's damn well common sense to not do anything that piss those people off further and instead focusing efforts on having a discourse instead.

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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:23 am

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Cannabis Islands wrote:Here you go

I'm glad to see that you interpreted a post that states, and I quote "One should be able to work through those conflicts(Or at the very least attempt to do so) to achieve a mutual understanding. There's something quite jarring when one flat out refuses to try" as "Muslims are more oppressed than LGBT people"

You more or less are saying that. That we LGBT people need to understand those "poor oppressed Muslims".
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Postby Zrhajan » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:23 am

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Then they can go to non-EU nation that matches their values.

If you have been accepted as a refugee into a nation, you can't just leave said nation. Just saying. And, for most of these refugees, Europe is the nearest place they can go to. So, kindly stop it with this whole "Well, if they don't like it they should leave" bullshit, it helps nobody and is blatantly untrue.
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Postby Revanchism » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:23 am

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Cannabis Islands wrote:Shit! If they are fucking starting riots, Sweden needs to get their shit together and start issuing deportations.


Sacrificing the lives of Swedish LGBTs to enable a mass deportation of darkies, just like the SD planned. And you claim to be for LGBT rights.

You do see that this is the endgame, yes? This is exactly it, Cannabis.
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:24 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:It is not "inciting" to hold a rally or a parade. Here we go again, holding Muslims to lower standard.

They spent December 2013 burning cars across the neighbourhood. I think it's damn well common sense to not do anything that piss those people off further and instead focusing efforts on having a discourse instead.

And I will say it again. If refuges are starting riots, they need to deport the participants.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:24 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Revanchism wrote:I'm glad to see that you interpreted a post that states, and I quote "One should be able to work through those conflicts(Or at the very least attempt to do so) to achieve a mutual understanding. There's something quite jarring when one flat out refuses to try" as "Muslims are more oppressed than LGBT people"

You more or less are saying that. That we LGBT people need to understand those "poor oppressed Muslims".


And they need to understand you, yes, that's correct.

Understanding is the key to success.

But the SD doesn't care. They're happy using LGBT rights as a masquerade for anti-immigrant electoral pandering.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:25 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:They spent December 2013 burning cars across the neighbourhood. I think it's damn well common sense to not do anything that piss those people off further and instead focusing efforts on having a discourse instead.

And I will say it again. If refuges are starting riots, they need to deport the participants.

So being dicks, incite a riot and then proceed to toss the baby out with the bathwater is perfectly fine and totally not fatally flawed policy?

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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:25 am

Revanchism wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Sacrificing the lives of Swedish LGBTs to enable a mass deportation of darkies, just like the SD planned. And you claim to be for LGBT rights.

You do see that this is the endgame, yes? This is exactly it, Cannabis.

I don't see race in it, sorry. I don't give a fuck if a person has dark skin or not. A person's race does not excuse them from being wrong.
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Postby Revanchism » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:25 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Revanchism wrote:I'm glad to see that you interpreted a post that states, and I quote "One should be able to work through those conflicts(Or at the very least attempt to do so) to achieve a mutual understanding. There's something quite jarring when one flat out refuses to try" as "Muslims are more oppressed than LGBT people"

You more or less are saying that. That we LGBT people need to understand those "poor oppressed Muslims".

Or, moreso that we should at least fucking try and not act like a bag full of severed pencil dicks.
And are you honestly implying that Muslim immigrants face no discrimination and are somehow not, by definition, oppressed?
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Postby Revanchism » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:26 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:And I will say it again. If refuges are starting riots, they need to deport the participants.

So being dicks, incite a riot and then proceed to toss the baby out with the bathwater is perfectly fine and totally not fatally flawed policy?

This is new. Cutting off your hand to attempt to shoot yourself in the foot.
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Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:Does Queen Elsa have a partnership with the Rothschild family in the film?
Kolmya wrote:

Should have been titled A Trve Friend.
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The Rodina wrote:It was american is hardly an argument.
It's the only argument I need.

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Postby The Grim Reaper » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:27 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Revanchism wrote:You do see that this is the endgame, yes? This is exactly it, Cannabis.

I don't see race in it, sorry. I don't give a fuck if a person has dark skin or not. A person's race does not excuse them from being wrong.


But the SD /does/. That's the point. They don't care about you being wrong or right, they just want to have an excuse to target immigrants. The pride parade is being used to fuel anti-immigrant sentiment.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:27 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Revanchism wrote:You do see that this is the endgame, yes? This is exactly it, Cannabis.

I don't see race in it, sorry. I don't give a fuck if a person has dark skin or not. A person's race does not excuse them from being wrong.

It doesn't. But intentionally being trolls and give fuel to a possible riot is not the fucking way to go about it. Everybody else here is being mature about this. Except SD.

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Postby Revanchism » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:27 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Revanchism wrote:You do see that this is the endgame, yes? This is exactly it, Cannabis.

I don't see race in it, sorry. I don't give a fuck if a person has dark skin or not. A person's race does not excuse them from being wrong.

I take it you've ignored the SD's very, very racially charged language, statements and stances? You're not wrong with that last sentence, but that doesn't mean the other group here is in the right.
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Norstal wrote:You ever watched a bad movie that is so bad, that it's enlightening? Like, you start asking yourself, "why did I watched this movie. What is the meaning of life after I watched this movie."
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Excuse me, I believe that the proper term is Satanic-American.
Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:Does Queen Elsa have a partnership with the Rothschild family in the film?
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Should have been titled A Trve Friend.
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The Rodina wrote:It was american is hardly an argument.
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