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Postby Gauthier » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:04 am

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Unlike the obvious purpose of this "parade," women do not go around flaunting themselves to provoke reaction from men. Please cut this horseshit out. It's nauseating. The SD is hoping to use LGBTs as literal baits for reactionaries in the refugee community and you're defending them by comparing to rape victim blaming.

I'll assume that you do support those two acts, as you have failed to address my accusations properly.

Do you support the anti-LGBTQ+ sentiment of the Abrahamic religions?


This isn't about what I think of LGBT sentiments and anyone who's read me here for a long time knows. This is about a cynical ploy by a political party to literally sacrifice LGBTs to score political points for their agenda.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:04 am

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Wisconsin9 wrote:You ever hear that old proverb about beggars and choosers?

*shrugs* Then they have no right to throw a bitch fit when someone mocks their prophet or when LGBT march down the street.

Absolutely right, because only certain people have things like freedom of speech. *nods vigorously*
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Postby Revanchism » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:04 am

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Gauthier wrote:
Unlike the obvious purpose of this "parade," women do not go around flaunting themselves to provoke reaction from men. Please cut this horseshit out. It's nauseating. The SD is hoping to use LGBTs as literal baits for reactionaries in the refugee community and you're defending them by comparing to rape victim blaming.

I'll assume that you do support those two acts, as you have failed to address my accusations properly.

Do you support the anti-LGBTQ+ sentiment of the Abrahamic religions?

This may be shocking to you, but this situation is not a black and white issue. Real world issues have something called nuance, and it's not always possible to sum up opinions on such in a simple loaded question.
Besides, Gauthier did, in fact, address your accusations. Your failure to obtain the "Gotcha!" you so desired is unrelated.
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:06 am

Revanchism wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I'll assume that you do support those two acts, as you have failed to address my accusations properly.

Do you support the anti-LGBTQ+ sentiment of the Abrahamic religions?

This may be shocking to you, but this situation is not a black and white issue. Real world issues have something called nuance, and it's not always possible to sum up opinions on such in a simple loaded question.
Besides, Gauthier did, in fact, address your accusations. Your failure to obtain the "Gotcha!" you so desired is unrelated.

You see that! That is example of the progressive stack. Right there!!
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Postby Ardoki » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:06 am

Gauthier wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I'll assume that you do support those two acts, as you have failed to address my accusations properly.

Do you support the anti-LGBTQ+ sentiment of the Abrahamic religions?


This isn't about what I think of LGBT sentiments and anyone who's read me here for a long time knows. This is about a cynical ploy by a political party to literally sacrifice LGBTs to score political points for their agenda.

So you approve of the execution of LGBTQ+ people in Islamic countries? Because defending an ideology which is hateful, is defending the acts of hate themselves.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:07 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Revanchism wrote:This may be shocking to you, but this situation is not a black and white issue. Real world issues have something called nuance, and it's not always possible to sum up opinions on such in a simple loaded question.
Besides, Gauthier did, in fact, address your accusations. Your failure to obtain the "Gotcha!" you so desired is unrelated.

You see that! That is example of the progressive stack. Right there!!

Really? Acknowledging that there are, in fact, things other than perfect good and absolute evil?

What the fuck are you smoking, man? Must be some good shit.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:08 am

Ardoki wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
This isn't about what I think of LGBT sentiments and anyone who's read me here for a long time knows. This is about a cynical ploy by a political party to literally sacrifice LGBTs to score political points for their agenda.

So you approve of the execution of LGBTQ+ people in Islamic countries? Because defending an ideology which is hateful, is defending the acts of hate themselves.


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Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Revanchism » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:08 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Revanchism wrote:This may be shocking to you, but this situation is not a black and white issue. Real world issues have something called nuance, and it's not always possible to sum up opinions on such in a simple loaded question.
Besides, Gauthier did, in fact, address your accusations. Your failure to obtain the "Gotcha!" you so desired is unrelated.

You see that! That is example of the progressive stack. Right there!!

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Postby Ayothaya » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:09 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:You see that! That is example of the progressive stack. Right there!!

Really? Acknowledging that there are, in fact, things other than perfect good and absolute evil?

What the fuck are you smoking, man? Must be some good shit.


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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:09 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:You see that! That is example of the progressive stack. Right there!!

Really? Acknowledging that there are, in fact, things other than perfect good and absolute evil?

What the fuck are you smoking, man? Must be some good shit.

I only smoke the brown stuff, hon. And it is part of the idea that "Muslims are more oppressed than LGBT! So, their concerns and voice matter more!!"
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:11 am

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Cannabis Islands wrote:You see that! That is example of the progressive stack. Right there!!

This just in: Being a Fucking Goddamn Adult is SJW Degeneracy
Later Tonight: Scientists debate over the left-wing bias of reality

I gave a link to the idea of the progressive stack, and I did not call you an "SJW", this time. This idea that "Muslims are more oppressed than LGBT, so their concerns, feelings and voice matter more!" is bullshit.
About me: I have a strong dislike of religion and the current social justice narrative. Used to be a SSPX-like Catholic, but not anymore. And no, my nation does not represent my real views...most of the time.
Why I'm no longer a Socialist.
My pronouns: That asshole from /pol/, bigot, misogynist, transphobe, racist
And no, my flag is NOT used for RPing :)
Finally, fuck your trigger warnings.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:11 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Revanchism wrote:At long last, you finally show the extent of your misunderstanding.
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that this holds no benefit to white LGBT people and the inevitable backlash will almost certainly adversely effect LGBT people within the Muslim immigrant community. This is not a Pride Parade made for the benefit of gay people. It's a childish middle finger of spite, and much like whenever someone attempts to act childish in the real world, it will have some very adult, very real consequences for others.
And yet, here you are, the only person pulling oppression into it in a cheap(And amateurish, if I may say) attempt at playing "Oppression Olympics".

And even if it a "childish middle finger", they have a right to hold that parade. LGBT SD supporters wish to have to hold a parade, and that is their right.

Ja förstås bestrider vi icke SD's jävla rättighet att ha en prideparad mitt i jävla Husaby... fuck I got into Swedish mode.
Yes of course we are not contesting SD's fucking right to have a pride parade in the middle of Husaby who's impoverished teens spent two weeks burning hundreds of cars back in December 2013. All we are fucking saying is
A) This is going to piss off a lot of people and alienate them further, or also known as, a fucking bloody dick move.
B) This is not in any sense of the word, fucking advisable.

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Postby Revanchism » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:11 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Really? Acknowledging that there are, in fact, things other than perfect good and absolute evil?

What the fuck are you smoking, man? Must be some good shit.

I only smoke the brown stuff, hon. And it is part of the idea that "Muslims are more oppressed than LGBT! So, their concerns and voice matter more!!"

Nowhere, absolutely nowhere did I say or imply that. Throughout this entire thread. Ever. Strawmanning is bad and you should feel bad.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:11 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Really? Acknowledging that there are, in fact, things other than perfect good and absolute evil?

What the fuck are you smoking, man? Must be some good shit.

I only smoke the brown stuff, hon. And it is part of the idea that "Muslims are more oppressed than LGBT! So, their concerns and voice matter more!!"


Yeah man, those Somalis had it EASY!
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Ayothaya » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:12 am

Gauthier wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:I only smoke the brown stuff, hon. And it is part of the idea that "Muslims are more oppressed than LGBT! So, their concerns and voice matter more!!"


Yeah man, those Somalis had it EASY!


Not to mention the Iraqis, Afghans, Pakistanis, Yemenis...
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:13 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Really? Acknowledging that there are, in fact, things other than perfect good and absolute evil?

What the fuck are you smoking, man? Must be some good shit.

I only smoke the brown stuff, hon. And it is part of the idea that "Muslims are more oppressed than LGBT! So, their concerns and voice matter more!!"

I can't think of any time anybody in this thread has ever said that. Actually, considering the shit that goes on in Muslim-majority countries, I'm not sure that anybody has seriously argued that that's the case in the history of ever.
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Postby New Grestin » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:13 am

A right-wing political party deliberately inflaming a Muslim population?

What. A. Fucking. Shocker.

That said, I find the idea of a gay-pride parade traipsing through a homophobic Muslim neighborhood infinitely amusing.
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:13 am

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Cannabis Islands wrote:I only smoke the brown stuff, hon. And it is part of the idea that "Muslims are more oppressed than LGBT! So, their concerns and voice matter more!!"

Nowhere, absolutely nowhere did I say or imply that. Throughout this entire thread. Ever. Strawmanning is bad and you should feel bad.

Yes, you damn well did imply that. You have been saying that LGBT people should be sensitive to the Muslims because they are being "oppressed" just like LGBT people.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:14 am

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Revanchism wrote:This just in: Being a Fucking Goddamn Adult is SJW Degeneracy
Later Tonight: Scientists debate over the left-wing bias of reality

I gave a link to the idea of the progressive stack, and I did not call you an "SJW", this time. This idea that "Muslims are more oppressed than LGBT, so their concerns, feelings and voice matter more!" is bullshit.

Yes obviously decapitation and burning alive is a minor concern.

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Postby Gauthier » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:14 am

New Grestin wrote:A right-wing political party deliberately inflaming a Muslim population?

What. A. Fucking. Shocker.

That said, I find the idea of a gay-pride parade traipsing through a homophobic Muslim neighborhood infinitely amusing.


Just as amusing as the possibility of the people in the parade being injured or killed all to play out the right-wing party's plan?
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Revanchism » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:15 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Revanchism wrote:Nowhere, absolutely nowhere did I say or imply that. Throughout this entire thread. Ever. Strawmanning is bad and you should feel bad.

Yes, you damn well did imply that. You have been saying that LGBT people should be sensitive to the Muslims because they are being "oppressed" just like LGBT people.

Show me goddamned where I did it outside of your brain. I'll wait.
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:15 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:I gave a link to the idea of the progressive stack, and I did not call you an "SJW", this time. This idea that "Muslims are more oppressed than LGBT, so their concerns, feelings and voice matter more!" is bullshit.

Yes obviously decapitation and burning alive is a minor concern.

I'm unmoved. I will say it again!! If refuges don't like the country they are staying in, they can leave. I'm not changing that position.
About me: I have a strong dislike of religion and the current social justice narrative. Used to be a SSPX-like Catholic, but not anymore. And no, my nation does not represent my real views...most of the time.
Why I'm no longer a Socialist.
My pronouns: That asshole from /pol/, bigot, misogynist, transphobe, racist
And no, my flag is NOT used for RPing :)
Finally, fuck your trigger warnings.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:16 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Revanchism wrote:Nowhere, absolutely nowhere did I say or imply that. Throughout this entire thread. Ever. Strawmanning is bad and you should feel bad.

Yes, you damn well did imply that. You have been saying that LGBT people should be sensitive to the Muslims because they are being "oppressed" just like LGBT people.

It's a sensitive issue because it's done in a area with previous rioting playing host to a lot of people that are not going to view this too kindly.

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Postby Revanchism » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:16 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:I gave a link to the idea of the progressive stack, and I did not call you an "SJW", this time. This idea that "Muslims are more oppressed than LGBT, so their concerns, feelings and voice matter more!" is bullshit.

Yes obviously decapitation and burning alive is a minor concern.

Don't even bother with that, he won't address it. He's already expressed that he's quite casual about the inevitable deaths of innocents, and for a proclaimed socialist, he's quite irreverent towards the poor and needy masses.
Cannabis Islands wrote:I'm unmoved. I will say it again!! If refuges don't like the country they are staying in, they can leave. I'm not changing that position.

Like clockwork. Completely fine with innocent deaths, all disguised under vague ideology.
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Norstal wrote:You ever watched a bad movie that is so bad, that it's enlightening? Like, you start asking yourself, "why did I watched this movie. What is the meaning of life after I watched this movie."
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Excuse me, I believe that the proper term is Satanic-American.
Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:Does Queen Elsa have a partnership with the Rothschild family in the film?
Kolmya wrote:

Should have been titled A Trve Friend.
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The Rodina wrote:It was american is hardly an argument.
It's the only argument I need.

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