Swedish Democrats Organize Controversial Gay Pride Rally

[Wisconsin9]

So they can go back to being in danger? Not a good idea.

Or they can choose a country that matches their values.

You ever hear that old proverb about beggars and choosers?

[The Grim Reaper]

Jesus Christ, since white LGBT people are more oppressed than Muslims, let them run roughshod? Is that your argument?

I'm saying this is not a fucking pride rally. Stop just throwing out buzzwords and try responding to the arguments. I'm not saying a damn thing about oppression. I'm saying this is an anti-immigration rally. Like the SD's platform, LGBT people don't even factor in.

[Ardoki]

If the local populace is violently homophobic, that is their problem. Violent homophobes should not be accommodated.

So if there is violence and LGBTs are injured or killed, it's exclusively the fault of the attackers and the people who organized the parade in hopes that such a thing would happen to use as anti-immigration propaganda are absolved of all culpability. Classy.

If they attack innocent LGBTQ+ people, of course it is their fault.

[The Grim Reaper]

My argument is that this isn't a fucking pride parade. I've repeated that very sentence multiple times. The SD does not care about LGBT people.

For three pages I've been saying that the SD is marginalizing LGBT rights as a discourse within their own hierarchical organization to support the key tenet of anti-immigration, and I am /opposed/ to that.

And? Even if it's a fucking anti-immigrant march, they have every right to hold one.

Yes, but not in an immigrant community, because then you're just angling to have an excuse to demonize them.

[Cannabis Islands]

Or they can choose a country that matches their values.

You ever hear that old proverb about beggars and choosers?

*shrugs* Then they have no right to throw a bitch fit when someone mocks their prophet or when LGBT march down the street.

[Gauthier]

So if there is violence and LGBTs are injured or killed, it's exclusively the fault of the attackers and the people who organized the parade in hopes that such a thing would happen to use as anti-immigration propaganda are absolved of all culpability. Classy.

If they attack innocent LGBTQ+ people, of course it is their fault.

And the people who sent them there knowing it would likely happen are completely in the clear. What a great society.

[Cannabis Islands]

And? Even if it's a fucking anti-immigrant march, they have every right to hold one.

Yes, but not in an immigrant community, because then you're just angling to have an excuse to demonize them.

Yep, I'm a son of an immigrant, so that makes sense to me.

[Olivaero]

I don't like racists or xenophobes which some of the people marching will probably be but I equally don't like homophobes. However the tie breaker for me is thinking about all those LGBT people born into a Muslim family, I hope they see this parade and understand that there are cultures away from where they live where they can be accepted and do not suffer repression.

[Ardoki]

If they attack innocent LGBTQ+ people, of course it is their fault.

And the people who sent them there knowing it would likely happen are completely in the clear. What a great society.

Do you also believe that women who wear mini-skirts are to blame if they are raped.

Because you are sounding just like those people.

[Gauthier]

Yes, but not in an immigrant community, because then you're just angling to have an excuse to demonize them.

Yep, I'm a son of an immigrant, so that makes sense to me.

Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz are the sons of immigrants and they're railing against immigration. You'd fit right in.

[The Grim Reaper]

Yes, but not in an immigrant community, because then you're just angling to have an excuse to demonize them.

Yep, I'm a son of an immigrant, so that makes sense to me.

And I'm a first generation immigrant to three different countries, from a country that recently ended a civil war over race nationalism. I outrank you.

The fact that you are an immigrant shouldn't factor into your beliefs

[Revanchism]

Alright. Now I know that you completely missed what I was saying, which was a commentary on your inability to realize the real situation here in favor of a reckless disregard for anyone but yourself disguised as socialist ideology, something George Orwell himself and his apologists would practice.
Somehow we've gone full circle. This is fucking meta.

Nope, because the "progressive stack" is central to your arguments. You are stating since refugee Muslim immigrants are more "oppressed" than "White LGBT people", the latter should censor themselves for the former.

At long last, you finally show the extent of your misunderstanding.
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that this holds no benefit to white LGBT people and the inevitable backlash will almost certainly adversely effect LGBT people within the Muslim immigrant community. This is not a Pride Parade made for the benefit of gay people. It's a childish middle finger of spite, and much like whenever someone attempts to act childish in the real world, it will have some very adult, very real consequences for others.
And yet, here you are, the only person pulling oppression into it in a cheap(And amateurish, if I may say) attempt at playing "Oppression Olympics".

[Gauthier]

And the people who sent them there knowing it would likely happen are completely in the clear. What a great society.

Do you also believe that women who wear mini-skirts are to blame if they are raped.

Because you are sounding just like those people.

Oh this old horseshit again. How many times is the Rape Victim Dress Code going to be disingenuously brought up as a defense of blatant anti-immigration trolling?

[Cannabis Islands]

Yep, I'm a son of an immigrant, so that makes sense to me.

Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz are the sons of immigrants and they're railing against immigration. You'd fit right in.

I know, asking immigrants to accept the progressive and secular nation that they moved to is being "anti-immigrant". Damn, I better "check my privilege".

[Revanchism]

Do you also believe that women who wear mini-skirts are to blame if they are raped.

Because you are sounding just like those people.

Oh this old horseshit again. How many times is the Rape Victim Dress Code going to be disingenuously brought up as a defense of blatant anti-immigration trolling?

As many times as Ahmed the Cop's existence is ignored.

[Cannabis Islands]

Nope, because the "progressive stack" is central to your arguments. You are stating since refugee Muslim immigrants are more "oppressed" than "White LGBT people", the latter should censor themselves for the former.

At long last, you finally show the extent of your misunderstanding.
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that this holds no benefit to white LGBT people and the inevitable backlash will almost certainly adversely effect LGBT people within the Muslim immigrant community. This is not a Pride Parade made for the benefit of gay people. It's a childish middle finger of spite, and much like whenever someone attempts to act childish in the real world, it will have some very adult, very real consequences for others.
And yet, here you are, the only person pulling oppression into it in a cheap(And amateurish, if I may say) attempt at playing "Oppression Olympics".

And even if it a "childish middle finger", they have a right to hold that parade. LGBT SD supporters wish to have to hold a parade, and that is their right.

[Ardoki]

Do you also believe that women who wear mini-skirts are to blame if they are raped.

Because you are sounding just like those people.

Oh this old horseshit again. How many times is the Rape Victim Dress Code going to be disingenuously brought up as a defense of blatant anti-immigration trolling?

You claimed that if LGBTQ+ people go near muslims, it would be there fault if they are injured or killed.
That is just like blaming women for being raped if they dress somewhat exposed.

[Revanchism]

Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz are the sons of immigrants and they're railing against immigration. You'd fit right in.

I know, asking immigrants to accept the progressive and secular nation that they moved to is being "anti-immigrant". Damn, I better "check my privilege".

Don't you honestly have something better to do than to throw around petty edgy buzzwords(I mean, come on, what's next, political correctness and cultural marxism?) to mask the fact that you endorsed the deaths of refugees in favor of spite?

[Gauthier]

Oh this old horseshit again. How many times is the Rape Victim Dress Code going to be disingenuously brought up as a defense of blatant anti-immigration trolling?

As many times as Ahmed the Cop's existence is ignored.

Nah, they'll just say Ahmed was just an ISIS operative waiting to pull a terrorist attack or some blue on green violence.

[Gauthier]

Oh this old horseshit again. How many times is the Rape Victim Dress Code going to be disingenuously brought up as a defense of blatant anti-immigration trolling?

You claimed that if LGBTQ+ people go near muslims, it would be there fault if they are injured or killed.
That is just like blaming women for being raped if they dress somewhat exposed.

Unlike the obvious purpose of this "parade," women do not go around flaunting themselves to provoke reaction from men. Please cut this horseshit out. It's nauseating. The SD is hoping to use LGBTs as literal baits for reactionaries in the refugee community and you're defending them by comparing criticism of it to rape victim blaming.

[Revanchism]

At long last, you finally show the extent of your misunderstanding.
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that this holds no benefit to white LGBT people and the inevitable backlash will almost certainly adversely effect LGBT people within the Muslim immigrant community. This is not a Pride Parade made for the benefit of gay people. It's a childish middle finger of spite, and much like whenever someone attempts to act childish in the real world, it will have some very adult, very real consequences for others.
And yet, here you are, the only person pulling oppression into it in a cheap(And amateurish, if I may say) attempt at playing "Oppression Olympics".

And even if it a "childish middle finger", they have a right to hold that parade. LGBT SD supporters wish to have to hold a parade, and that is their right.

You know what, yes, they have that right, provided they obtain the proper permits and the government lets them.

[Atlanticatia]

women do not go around flaunting themselves to provoke reaction from men.

And if they did?

[Cannabis Islands]

And even if it a "childish middle finger", they have a right to hold that parade. LGBT SD supporters wish to have to hold a parade, and that is their right.

You know what, yes, they have that right, provided they obtain the proper permits and the government lets them.

I'm going to wait and see.

[Ardoki]

You claimed that if LGBTQ+ people go near muslims, it would be there fault if they are injured or killed.
That is just like blaming women for being raped if they dress somewhat exposed.

Unlike the obvious purpose of this "parade," women do not go around flaunting themselves to provoke reaction from men. Please cut this horseshit out. It's nauseating. The SD is hoping to use LGBTs as literal baits for reactionaries in the refugee community and you're defending them by comparing to rape victim blaming.

I'll assume that you do support those two acts, as you have failed to address my accusations properly.

Do you support the anti-LGBTQ+ sentiment of the Abrahamic religions?

[Ardoki]

women do not go around flaunting themselves to provoke reaction from men.

And if they did?

Some, a very small minority, actually do. That doesn't excuse them being raped though.