Louisianan Movie Theater Shooting

[Oilwell]

nope at this rate mass shootings are just a weekly event.

*the following is me venting

And nothing will be done so here is my few.

The NRA has blood on their hands, FOX news had blood on their hands, anyone who says "it's not a gun issue" has blood on their hands,the GOP has blood on their hands, the gun lobby has blood on their hands, the cowards in the government has blood on their hands, the open-carry movement has blood on their hands and everyone who just yells about this issue on a internet forum has blood on their hands.

anyone who makes it a political issues has blood on it's hands, left or right wing

[Zeinbrad]

*the following is me venting

And nothing will be done so here is my few.

The NRA has blood on their hands, FOX news had blood on their hands, anyone who says "it's not a gun issue" has blood on their hands,the GOP has blood on their hands, the gun lobby has blood on their hands, the cowards in the government has blood on their hands, the open-carry movement has blood on their hands and everyone who just yells about this issue on a internet forum has blood on their hands.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacie ... otion.html

I think your miss the part were I said that even Democrats (the liberals) and internet liberals who do nothing but yell loudly has blood on their hands for doing nothing.

But I'm just pissed right now.

[Oilwell]

Honestly don't even know why I posted here, everyones going to blow off their steam about it in the media etc, the gun rights vs gun control people will argue then everyone we'll get over it and then the process will repeat at the next mass shooting. smh.

[Senedonia]

Im pissed at the media for projecting this issue to push agendas. Im tired of both parties acting like fools...im just tired of my nation's government...i dont know about you, but i can forsee a future civil war in the next 15-20 years with the way our country and society is going.

[The Orson Empire]

nope at this rate mass shootings are just a weekly event.

*the following is me venting

And nothing will be done so here is my few.

The NRA has blood on their hands, FOX news had blood on their hands, anyone who says "it's not a gun issue" has blood on their hands,the GOP has blood on their hands, the gun lobby has blood on their hands, the cowards in the government has blood on their hands, the open-carry movement has blood on their hands and everyone who just yells about this issue on a internet forum has blood on their hands.

That seems like exactly what you are doing. I bet you aren't going to go out and solve this problem. Then again, neither am I, because there is honestly nothing we can do. We have very little, if any power over the government.

[Draica]

I hope you suburban liberals understand, in the hood these occur everyday. Inner city schools get shot up everyday, disillusioned youth get killed everyday, the news just doesn't cover it. This is nothing new, the media coverage to push a specific agenda in relation to this issue, however, is new.

No, there has been an actual rise.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/25/us ... rrer=&_r=1

Can you try to find a more impartial source like the Assosciated Press, USAtoday, something that actually practices actual journalism and doesn't commit ideological idoltary like the New York Times does? PLEASE get a better source than the New York Times.

[The Cobalt Sky]

and everyone who just yells about this issue on a internet forum has blood on their hands.

*slowly reaches for a towel to try and wipe it all off*

[Zeinbrad]

*the following is me venting

And nothing will be done so here is my few.

The NRA has blood on their hands, FOX news had blood on their hands, anyone who says "it's not a gun issue" has blood on their hands,the GOP has blood on their hands, the gun lobby has blood on their hands, the cowards in the government has blood on their hands, the open-carry movement has blood on their hands and everyone who just yells about this issue on a internet forum has blood on their hands.

That seems like exactly what you are doing. I bet you aren't going to go out and solve this problem. Then again, neither am I, because there is honestly nothing we can do. We have very little, if any power over the government.

Hence everyone.

[Grinning Dragon]

nope at this rate mass shootings are just a weekly event.

*the following is me venting

And nothing will be done so here is my few.

The NRA has blood on their hands, FOX news had blood on their hands, anyone who says "it's not a gun issue" has blood on their hands,the GOP has blood on their hands, the gun lobby has blood on their hands, the cowards in the government has blood on their hands, the open-carry movement has blood on their hands and everyone who just yells about this issue on a internet forum has blood on their hands.

Lets add more:
Establishments that post gun free zones have blood on their hands, gun control groups have blood on their hands, Louisiana is an open carry state, so everyone in LA has blood on their hand, anyone who says lets ban all weapons has blood on their hands, the bubble headed media talking heads have blood on their hands, etc, etc.

[Draica]

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacie ... otion.html

I think your miss the part were I said that even Democrats (the liberals) and internet liberals who do nothing but yell loudly has blood on their hands for doing nothing.

But I'm just pissed right now.

We don't even know what kind of gun this guy had and you're blaming law-abiding citizens such as members of the NRA for being indirectly responsible for this. What if it was a nine millimeter? What if it was just a regular handgun, something which liberals advocate letting people have as opposed to semi-autos? What if it was a revolver? I just listened to the conference that's happening as I type this post, WE DON'T KNOW MUCH OF ANYTHING.


STOP. JUMPING. TO. CONCLUSIONS!

That's what I cannot STAND about liberals.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

No, there has been an actual rise.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/25/us ... rrer=&_r=1

Can you try to find a more impartial source like the Assosciated Press, USAtoday, something that actually practices actual journalism and doesn't commit ideological idoltary like the New York Times does? PLEASE get a better source than the New York Times.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/24/justice/f ... nts-study/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/ ... E820140924

[Grenartia]

I hope you suburban liberals understand, in the hood these occur everyday. Inner city schools get shot up everyday, disillusioned youth get killed everyday, the news just doesn't cover it. This is nothing new, the media coverage to push a specific agenda in relation to this issue, however, is new.

Well I mean, you are right in part. There have been 204 Mass SHootings in 2015, of which maybe a dozen got national news.

Which, in and of itself, proves that this is a fucking epidemic problem, since the last time something like this happened in Britain was 5 years ago, and before that it was 96, and before that, it was 87.

Britain must be fucking doing SOMETHING right, and the only thing I can think of is gun control. Like it or not, if you oppose reasonable gun restrictions, you're literally just begging for this shit to happen again. And again. And again.

[The Serbian Empire]

Prohibition doesn't work, it was proven with alcohol back in the 1920s.

Nope.

It worked.

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/16/opini ... ccess.html

Second, alcohol consumption declined dramatically during Prohibition. Cirrhosis death rates for men were 29.5 per 100,000 in 1911 and 10.7 in 1929. Admissions to state mental hospitals for alcoholic psychosis declined from 10.1 per 100,000 in 1919 to 4.7 in 1928.

Arrests for public drunkennness and disorderly conduct declined 50 percent between 1916 and 1922. For the population as a whole, the best estimates are that consumption of alcohol declined by 30 percent to 50 percent.

Third, violent crime did not increase dramatically during Prohibition...

Also, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1470475/

The conventional view that National Prohibition failed rests upon an historically flimsy base... National Prohibition succeeded both in lowering consumption and in retaining political support until the onset of the Great Depression altered voters’ priorities. Repeal resulted more from this contextual shift than from characteristics of the innovation itself.

It was a success

And we can do it with guns too

The problem is mobsters took up the void and murder rates skyrocketed.

[The Cobalt Sky]

No, there has been an actual rise.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/25/us ... rrer=&_r=1

Can you try to find a more impartial source like the Assosciated Press, USAtoday, something that actually practices actual journalism and doesn't commit ideological idoltary like the New York Times does? PLEASE get a better source than the New York Times.

Quite the biased one, aren't you?

How bout this:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/mass-shooti ... 1411574475

Or maybe from FBI.gov? That impartial enough for you?

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/s ... 0-and-2013

[Zeinbrad]

I think your miss the part were I said that even Democrats (the liberals) and internet liberals who do nothing but yell loudly has blood on their hands for doing nothing.

But I'm just pissed right now.

We don't even know what kind of gun this guy had and you're blaming law-abiding citizens such as members of the NRA for being indirectly responsible for this. What if it was a nine millimeter? What if it was just a regular handgun, something which liberals advocate letting people have as opposed to semi-autos? What if it was a revolver? I just listened to the conference that's happening as I type this post, WE DON'T KNOW MUCH OF ANYTHING.


STOP. JUMPING. TO. CONCLUSIONS!

That's what I cannot STAND about liberals.

Yes, besides the part were I didn't say that.

[The Orson Empire]

That seems like exactly what you are doing. I bet you aren't going to go out and solve this problem. Then again, neither am I, because there is honestly nothing we can do. We have very little, if any power over the government.

Hence everyone.

This is just going to keep happening and happening, but nothing is going to change. Whenever someone tries to introduce gun control, people immediately spout "YOU'RE TAKING AWAY MY FREEDOM!!!!1!1!"

Freedom of what, exactly? To tote around an assault rifle in public?

Honestly, I'm about ready to give up on this country. There is no hope for America.

[Alyakia]

so let me get this straight

either it's the guns, so you can't be trusted with guns

or it's not the guns. other countries do fine with guns and without guns, so it's ameican society being fundamentally fucked at some level that is the problem? in which case maybe we shouldn't trust you with guns?

ooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr the solution is to give everyone guns so when an inner city school or theater gets shot up everyone will have a gun and the good guys with guns will kill all the bad guys with guns and wait what

e: and everybody loves their guns, so they'll never get them back. and nobody has the will or political capacity to enact large scale change to fix the problems in society and oh christ you're pretty fucked let's be honest we're not long out a small scale civil war and we don't get "inner city schools getting shot up everyday"

[Grenartia]

*the following is me venting

And nothing will be done so here is my few.

The NRA has blood on their hands, FOX news had blood on their hands, anyone who says "it's not a gun issue" has blood on their hands,the GOP has blood on their hands, the gun lobby has blood on their hands, the cowards in the government has blood on their hands, the open-carry movement has blood on their hands and everyone who just yells about this issue on a internet forum has blood on their hands.

anyone who makes it a political issues has blood on it's hands, left or right wing

Anyone who thinks that this shit can be handwaved away by uttering "don't make this a political issue", has blood on their hands. Politics affects everything. Especially life and death matters such as this. And the only way to prevent tragedies like this is *LE FUCKING GASP!* TO MAKE THIS A POLITICAL ISSUE!

[Infected Mushroom]

Nope.

It worked.

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/16/opini ... ccess.html



Also, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1470475/



It was a success

And we can do it with guns too

The problem is mobsters took up the void and murder rates skyrocketed.

my first source said that violent crime did not go up.

...Third, violent crime did not increase dramatically during Prohibition. Homicide rates rose dramatically from 1900 to 1910 but remained roughly constant during Prohibition's 14 year rule.

[Zeinbrad]

Hence everyone.

This is just going to keep happening and happening, but nothing is going to change. Whenever someone tries to introduce gun control, people immediately spout "YOU'RE TAKING AWAY MY FREEDOM!!!!1!1!"

Freedom of what, exactly? To tote around an assault rifle in public?

Honestly, I'm about ready to give up on this country. There is no hope for America.

With that attitude, no. With that attitude this happens and nothing changes. We just wait for the next shooting to be publicized.

[The Serbian Empire]

Well I mean, you are right in part. There have been 204 Mass SHootings in 2015, of which maybe a dozen got national news.

Which, in and of itself, proves that this is a fucking epidemic problem, since the last time something like this happened in Britain was 5 years ago, and before that it was 96, and before that, it was 87.

Britain must be fucking doing SOMETHING right, and the only thing I can think of is gun control. Like it or not, if you oppose reasonable gun restrictions, you're literally just begging for this shit to happen again. And again. And again.

It's gun control on an island. The US would be best to be compared to Finland.

[Washington Resistance Army]

anyone who makes it a political issues has blood on it's hands, left or right wing

Anyone who thinks that this shit can be handwaved away by uttering "don't make this a political issue", has blood on their hands. Politics affects everything. Especially life and death matters such as this. And the only way to prevent tragedies like this is *LE FUCKING GASP!* TO MAKE THIS A POLITICAL ISSUE!

And what do you propose be done about it?

[Grenartia]

*the following is me venting

And nothing will be done so here is my few.

The NRA has blood on their hands, FOX news had blood on their hands, anyone who says "it's not a gun issue" has blood on their hands,the GOP has blood on their hands, the gun lobby has blood on their hands, the cowards in the government has blood on their hands, the open-carry movement has blood on their hands and everyone who just yells about this issue on a internet forum has blood on their hands.

Lets add more:
Establishments that post gun free zones have blood on their hands, gun control groups have blood on their hands, Louisiana is an open carry state, so everyone in LA has blood on their hand, anyone who says lets ban all weapons has blood on their hands, the bubble headed media talking heads have blood on their hands, etc, etc.

Yes, the entire fucking country has blood on its hands for letting this issue go this far out of control without the only viable solution there is.

[The Serbian Empire]

The problem is mobsters took up the void and murder rates skyrocketed.

my first source said that violent crime did not go up.

...Third, violent crime did not increase dramatically during Prohibition. Homicide rates rose dramatically from 1900 to 1910 but remained roughly constant during Prohibition's 14 year rule.

All I remember are your arguments under your former nation which played more akin to devil's advocate. Claiming prohibition worked would be like say that the War on Drugs worked.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Which, in and of itself, proves that this is a fucking epidemic problem, since the last time something like this happened in Britain was 5 years ago, and before that it was 96, and before that, it was 87.

Britain must be fucking doing SOMETHING right, and the only thing I can think of is gun control. Like it or not, if you oppose reasonable gun restrictions, you're literally just begging for this shit to happen again. And again. And again.

It's gun control on an island. The US would be best to be compared to Finland.

I dunno, we all have the Right to Bear Arms here. So why not put a tax on ammunition at like 20,000%. Buy all the guns you want, you syre as hell won't be shooting them. /ThatsaJoke