Islamic State Crisis Megathread (ISIS/ISIL/IS) II

[Ganos Lao]

I'm all for defeating ISIS. I just ain't gonna bother celebrating when the last ISIS militant drops dead because I know some other group will just take their place anyway.

One wonders if this whole clusterfuck that has led to state the Middle East finds itself in will resolve itself before half the century is done. I'm betting, probably not.

It'll take a lot more time than that, that's for sure, so probably not indeed.

[Ganos Lao]

The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia issued a decree on chess, saying the game is bad for spreading "emnity and hatred."

[Napkiraly]

One wonders if this whole clusterfuck that has led to state the Middle East finds itself in will resolve itself before half the century is done. I'm betting, probably not.

It'll take a lot more time than that, that's for sure, so probably not indeed.

I mean, shit, we haven't brought a close to the Arab-Israeli conflict, this will be an even heftier thing to tackle.

It doesn't help that an increasingly multi-polar world is going to further the shitstorm.

[Ganos Lao]

It'll take a lot more time than that, that's for sure, so probably not indeed.

I mean, shit, we haven't brought a close to the Arab-Israeli conflict, this will be an even heftier thing to tackle.

It doesn't help that an increasingly multi-polar world is going to turn further the shitstorm.

No one really gives a fuck about the Middle East, honestly. The Western politicians just want to look good for the cameras, the oil barons just want to keep the money flowing, the Middle East's "leaders" just want to maintain control, the common people are thoroughly convinced that their myopic view of the situation bolstered by the mass media is correct, etc, etc.

Hell, the so called good guys, the Kurds, are already gearing up for more of the same exact shit by going after Sunni Arabs who had nothing to do with ISIS. Same with the Yazidi with the "all Sunni Arabs are ISIS" talk from one of their commanders who, as far as I know, didn't get reprimanded for it.

I have no reason myself to get too invested unless it's to pity the poor kids who are going to grow up with the desire to kill the grown up kids of the West all because the parents of both were complete jackasses.

[Crockerland]

Middle-east peace plan

[Gauthier]

The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia issued a decree on chess, saying the game is bad for spreading "emnity and hatred."

You'd think he'd love a game where the winning phrase originated from "Shah mat".

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia issued a decree on chess, saying the game is bad for spreading "emnity and hatred."

That's not a new ruling it's ancient long before Saudi Arabia was even a country and is irrelevant to the topic of ISIS.

[Jochistan]

The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia issued a decree on chess, saying the game is bad for spreading "emnity and hatred."

That's not a new ruling it's ancient long before Saudi Arabia was even a country and is irrelevant to the topic of ISIS.

But it is related to the narrow mindedness that causes the whole thing to go Haywire.

The Salafism of the Saudis and other countries and movements feeds the narrow minded fundamentalism that gives rise to groups like ISIS, who, despite their odd esoteric beleifs, are still Salafi Jihadists like Al Qaeda at the end of the day.

[Sanctissima]

That's not a new ruling it's ancient long before Saudi Arabia was even a country and is irrelevant to the topic of ISIS.

But it is related to the narrow mindedness that causes the whole thing to go Haywire.

The Salafism of the Saudis and other countries and movements feeds the narrow minded fundamentalism that gives rise to groups like ISIS, who, despite their odd esoteric beleifs, are still Salafi Jihadists like Al Qaeda at the end of the day.

Very true.

Saudi Arabia ultimately bears a massive chunk of the blame for this.

[The Nuclear Fist]

The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia issued a decree on chess, saying the game is bad for spreading "emnity and hatred."

"Only true muslims know that any kind of fun or amusement is a direct insult to the prophet, suggests increasing daily prayer times from 17 to 42," says Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia.

But yeah, not really relevant to ISIS pig fuckers.

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

But it is related to the narrow mindedness that causes the whole thing to go Haywire.

The Salafism of the Saudis and other countries and movements feeds the narrow minded fundamentalism that gives rise to groups like ISIS, who, despite their odd esoteric beleifs, are still Salafi Jihadists like Al Qaeda at the end of the day.

Very true.

Saudi Arabia ultimately bears a massive chunk of the blame for this.

No Saudi soldiers have died fighting ISIS and Iranian imperialism in Yemen.

[The Nuclear Fist]

But it is related to the narrow mindedness that causes the whole thing to go Haywire.

The Salafism of the Saudis and other countries and movements feeds the narrow minded fundamentalism that gives rise to groups like ISIS, who, despite their odd esoteric beleifs, are still Salafi Jihadists like Al Qaeda at the end of the day.

Very true.

Saudi Arabia ultimately bears a massive chunk of the blame for this.

I'd like to say that the Middle East will be better once the Saudis collapse and thus cannot fund the export of wahhabism, but it won't.

[Jochistan]

Very true.

Saudi Arabia ultimately bears a massive chunk of the blame for this.

No Saudi soldiers have died fighting ISIS and Iranian imperialism in Yemen.

It doesn't matter. Whether they know it or not, their ideology is the main contribution to it.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Very true.

Saudi Arabia ultimately bears a massive chunk of the blame for this.

No Saudi soldiers have died fighting ISIS and Iranian imperialism in Yemen.

The constant financial support for the growth of extremist islam sure as fuck isn't helping the situation, I'd reckon.

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

No Saudi soldiers have died fighting ISIS and Iranian imperialism in Yemen.

The constant financial support for the growth of extremist islam sure as fuck isn't helping the situation, I'd reckon.

Saudi Arabia funds Islamic Freedom fighters, when Afghanistan was invaded by the USSR Grand Mufti Sheikh Ibn Baz(RA) called for Jihad against these foreign invaders. In the 90's when the Communists began genocide against Bosniaks Saudi Arabia funded rebels King Salman(RA) actually founded a charity to gives arms to the rebels, also in the 90's when the Russians began another campaign The Saudis called for the people to defend themselves from Russian agression. Now the Saudis call on the people of Syria to fight Iranian backed state terror and the Iranian deep cover organization ISIS.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The constant financial support for the growth of extremist islam sure as fuck isn't helping the situation, I'd reckon.

Saudi Arabia funds Islamic Freedom fighters, when Afghanistan was invaded by the USSR Grand Mufti Sheikh Ibn Baz(RA) called for Jihad against these foreign invaders. In the 90's when the Communists began genocide against Bosniaks Saudi Arabia funded rebels King Salman(RA) actually founded a charity to gives arms to the rebels, also in the 90's when the Russians began another campaign The Saudis called for the people to defend themselves from Russian agression. Now the Saudis call on the people of Syria to fight Iranian backed state terror and the Iranian deep cover organization ISIS.

That brand of "Islamic Freedom Fighters" are also a bunch of fundamentalist idiots who don't need funding.

And "Iranian deep cover organization"? Really? Why the fuck would Iran and it's allies be so adamant on destroying it's own organization? That's just a retarded idea.

[The Nuclear Fist]

That brand of "Islamic Freedom Fighters" are also a bunch of fundamentalist idiots who don't need funding.

If people like the Taliban and Al Qaeda, who sentence rape victims to lashings, kill LGBT folks, violently oppress religious minorities, conduct terror attacks on civilians, and routinely invent new ways to make everyone's life a hell are what he considers 'Islamic Freedom Fighters', I'd hate to see what he'd consider extreme.

And "Iranian deep cover organization"? Really? Why the fuck would Iran and it's allies be so adamant on destroying it's own organization? That's just a retarded idea.

It's a lot easier to assume a conspiracy than accept that people from your own religious sect/tribe can be massive cunts, especially in places like the Middle East.

[The Wolven League]

The constant financial support for the growth of extremist islam sure as fuck isn't helping the situation, I'd reckon.

Saudi Arabia funds Islamic Freedom fighters, when Afghanistan was invaded by the USSR Grand Mufti Sheikh Ibn Baz(RA) called for Jihad against these foreign invaders. In the 90's when the Communists began genocide against Bosniaks Saudi Arabia funded rebels King Salman(RA) actually founded a charity to gives arms to the rebels, also in the 90's when the Russians began another campaign The Saudis called for the people to defend themselves from Russian agression. Now the Saudis call on the people of Syria to fight Iranian backed state terror and the Iranian deep cover organization ISIS.

"Islamic Freedom Fighters"?

Surely you mean "fundamentalist jihadist terrorists".

[Risottia]

In the 90's when the Communists began genocide against Bosniaks

Yeah, the Chetniks are notoriously commies.
Uh uh.

Saudi Arabia funded rebels King Salman(RA) actually founded a charity to gives arms to the rebels,

The concept of "charity" must be quite relative.

also in the 90's when the Russians began another campaign The Saudis called for the people to defend themselves from Russian agression.

Are you basically admitting that the Saudis have supported the separatists in Chechnya who wanted to take a part of Russia and turn it into a Sultanate, by any chance?

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

In the 90's when the Communists began genocide against Bosniaks

Yeah, the Chetniks are notoriously commies.
Uh uh.

Saudi Arabia funded rebels King Salman(RA) actually founded a charity to gives arms to the rebels,

The concept of "charity" must be quite relative.

also in the 90's when the Russians began another campaign The Saudis called for the people to defend themselves from Russian agression.

Are you basically admitting that the Saudis have supported the separatists in Chechnya who wanted to take a part of Russia and turn it into a Sultanate, by any chance?

Yes it's a well kown fact The KSA funded Chechen revolutionaries Amir Khattab was Saudi.

[Napkiraly]

Yeah, the Chetniks are notoriously commies.
Uh uh.


The concept of "charity" must be quite relative.


Are you basically admitting that the Saudis have supported the separatists in Chechnya who wanted to take a part of Russia and turn it into a Sultanate, by any chance?

Yes it's a well kown fact The KSA funded Chechen revolutionaries Amir Khattab was Saudi.

And Khattab was a terrorist as were many of the Chechen separatists of the Second Chechen War. Hell, the Wahabists caused many of the secular and less religious rebels to start supporting Russia.

This isn't to mention Saudi, either state or individual, funding for various terrorist groups. Whether they target India, Russia, Israel or even the West.

[Farnhamia]

Saudi Arabia funds Islamic Freedom fighters, when Afghanistan was invaded by the USSR Grand Mufti Sheikh Ibn Baz(RA) called for Jihad against these foreign invaders. In the 90's when the Communists began genocide against Bosniaks Saudi Arabia funded rebels King Salman(RA) actually founded a charity to gives arms to the rebels, also in the 90's when the Russians began another campaign The Saudis called for the people to defend themselves from Russian agression. Now the Saudis call on the people of Syria to fight Iranian backed state terror and the Iranian deep cover organization ISIS.

That brand of "Islamic Freedom Fighters" are also a bunch of fundamentalist idiots who don't need funding.

And "Iranian deep cover organization"? Really? Why the fuck would Iran and it's allies be so adamant on destroying it's own organization? That's just a retarded idea.

How about you tone it down a little bit? I could see deep into trolling territory from your post. The gentler gamester is the soonest winner.

[Jochistan]

Very true.

Saudi Arabia ultimately bears a massive chunk of the blame for this.

I'd like to say that the Middle East will be better once the Saudis collapse and thus cannot fund the export of wahhabism, but it won't.

Unfortunately not. Salafi-Wahhabiism (the latter being a movement of the former) can be combated, however.

[Washington Resistance Army]

That brand of "Islamic Freedom Fighters" are also a bunch of fundamentalist idiots who don't need funding.

And "Iranian deep cover organization"? Really? Why the fuck would Iran and it's allies be so adamant on destroying it's own organization? That's just a retarded idea.

How about you tone it down a little bit? I could see deep into trolling territory from your post. The gentler gamester is the soonest winner.

Since when is calling Daeshbags and the like what they are trolling? Or pointing out why an idea is stupid? I'm actually curious because both of those things happen quite often in General and I've never been yelled at over it before.

[Farnhamia]

How about you tone it down a little bit? I could see deep into trolling territory from your post. The gentler gamester is the soonest winner.

Since when is calling Daeshbags and the like what they are trolling? Or pointing out why an idea is stupid? I'm actually curious because both of those things happen quite often in General and I've never been yelled at over it before.

It could be construed as troll-bait. Your post got reported. I ruled it not actionable but a little less invective couldn't hurt.