Is Donald Trump a racist?

[United States Kingdom]

I want to see the general NSG opinion on him. Do you guys think he is a racist because of what he has been saying about immigration, Hispanic people etc?

Looks more like someone who desperately wants to exploit the public's xenophobia to get 5 more minutes of attention, like many right-wing populists everywhere.

Yeah, I am not a right wing, I am someone who is center left. In addition to that, if you think that I am exploiting people and attempting to get attention, then you can simply not post. Simple as that.

[New Grestin]

Yes.

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[Divitaen]

Hahahaha yup he sure did.

"Some, I assume, are good people" is the best save he could come up with after stereotyping an entire community. I should try that next time. "Black people are all thugs, gangsters, and well, some, I assume, are good people".

And many conservatives say I should ignore his comments as a American of Mexican extraction. Because I'm an American first and he was talking about "illegals"

Yes because when he says "Mexicans", he means "illegals". They are totally synonymous, after all.

[Dimasalang]

Is he the TV Personality running for US President? Apologies, non-American here. Heard his name and what he's doing in CNN and some local news sites...

[Aidannadia]

Looks more like someone who desperately wants to exploit the public's xenophobia to get 5 more minutes of attention, like many right-wing populists everywhere.

Yeah, I am not a right wing, I am someone who is center left. In addition to that, if you think that I am exploiting people and attempting to get attention, then you can simply not post. Simple as that.

Pretty sure that was in relation to Trump, not you.

Is he the TV Personality running for US President? Apologies, non-American here. Heard his name and what he's doing in CNN and some local news sites...

Yes. His show was recently cancelled from NBC though.

[Cannabis Islands]

And many conservatives say I should ignore his comments as a American of Mexican extraction. Because I'm an American first and he was talking about "illegals"

Yes because when he says "Mexicans", he means "illegals". They are totally synonymous, after all.

"But you're an American! I thought race didn't matter to you lefties?!"

[British Empire Strikes Back]

No he is not a racist. Latinos are not a race, so there is no possibility he could be racist against them. Although I am a proud Social Democrat and supporter of Bernie Sanders I do agree with a few of Trump's points on illegal immigration and the crime associated therein.

[Dimasalang]

Sorry if I sound quite judgmental or such (since I was introduced to him via news), but he's the kind of person that would get himself banned or blacklisted in nearly half of Asia and Latin America. Add in the entire African Continent.

[Cannabis Islands]

No he is not a racist. Latinos are not a race, so there is no possibility he could be racist against them. Although I am a proud Social Democrat and supporter of Bernie Sanders I do agree with a few of Trump's points on illegal immigration and the crime associated therein.

So, since I'm of Mexican extraction, that makes me a criminal?

[Sino nations]

(Donald Trump Logic) Yes.

[Rhyfelnydd]

You are aware I have added other reasons, and I didn't specifically state that the poll was created because of what he stated on immigration right?

etc is not a reason and probably Donald Trump is trying to defend its nations culture?

When that nation is the US, which is essentially a myriad culture BECAUSE of immigration, it is a tad ironic.

[Aidannadia]

No he is not a racist. Latinos are not a race, so there is no possibility he could be racist against them. Although I am a proud Social Democrat and supporter of Bernie Sanders I do agree with a few of Donald "I have so many websites" Trump's points on illegal immigration and the crime associated therein.

Because most Mexicans are definitely not a mix of Native and European ancestry and definitely never counted as a separate race by society. And let's also ignore any other comment he's made before...

[Rhyfelnydd]

No he is not a racist. Latinos are not a race, so there is no possibility he could be racist against them. Although I am a proud Social Democrat and supporter of Bernie Sanders I do agree with a few of Trump's points on illegal immigration and the crime associated therein.

Then what would you call the vast majority of Mexico and many other South American nations, which are largely of mixed Native and European descent?

[The Carlisle]

No he is not a racist. Latinos are not a race, so there is no possibility he could be racist against them. Although I am a proud Social Democrat and supporter of Bernie Sanders I do agree with a few of Donald "I have so many websites" Trump's points on illegal immigration and the crime associated therein.

Because most Mexicans are definitely not a mix of Native and European ancestry and definitely never counted as a separate race by society. And let's also ignore any other comment he's made before...

And race doesn't exist biologically but does socioculturally. So Latino is a race because society considers them separate.

[Lordieth]

No he is not a racist. Latinos are not a race, so there is no possibility he could be racist against them. Although I am a proud Social Democrat and supporter of Bernie Sanders I do agree with a few of Trump's points on illegal immigration and the crime associated therein.

Bigot, then. We're just splitting hairs, here.

[Aidannadia]

Because most Mexicans are definitely not a mix of Native and European ancestry and definitely never counted as a separate race by society. And let's also ignore any other comment he's made before...

And race doesn't exist biologically but does socioculturally. So Latino is a race because society considers them separate.

I agree though I'm tentative to because it feels like you are disagreeing with something I said.

I brought up Native and European ancestry because people do associate the typical Mexican with the mestizo look, especially when that person holds racist beliefs. Of course, race is not a valid biological classification.

[The Carlisle]

And race doesn't exist biologically but does socioculturally. So Latino is a race because society considers them separate.

I agree though I'm tentative to because it feels like you are disagreeing with something I said.

I brought up Native and European ancestry because people do associate the typical Mexican with the mestizo look, especially when that person holds racist beliefs. Of course, race is not a valid biological classification.

Not disagreeing at all, just piggybacking off of what you said. Sorry if it came off that way.

[Worldcupia]

No. Because Mexican is not a race.

Yours truly,
IRL Mexican Uncle Ruckus, no relation

[Aidannadia]

I agree though I'm tentative to because it feels like you are disagreeing with something I said.

I brought up Native and European ancestry because people do associate the typical Mexican with the mestizo look, especially when that person holds racist beliefs. Of course, race is not a valid biological classification.

Not disagreeing at all, just piggybacking off of what you said. Sorry if it came off that way.

To be fair, I am a very argumentative person. I have tendencies to turn things into an argument when there isn't anything to argue about.

[British Empire Strikes Back]

No he is not a racist. Latinos are not a race, so there is no possibility he could be racist against them. Although I am a proud Social Democrat and supporter of Bernie Sanders I do agree with a few of Trump's points on illegal immigration and the crime associated therein.

So, since I'm of Mexican extraction, that makes me a criminal?

No, not neccessarily. But you have a higher likehood of being a criminal due to statistics. That is not Donald said. What he said was that many illegal immigrants are criminals, rapists, murderers, etc; and much of that is true. The recent events in San Francisco illustrate this. Now, many illegal immigrants come here for a better life; but they should come legally.

Before you misquote Mr. Trump, I suggest you actually read what he said.

[British Empire Strikes Back]

And race doesn't exist biologically but does socioculturally. So Latino is a race because society considers them separate.

I agree though I'm tentative to because it feels like you are disagreeing with something I said.

I brought up Native and European ancestry because people do associate the typical Mexican with the mestizo look, especially when that person holds racist beliefs. Of course, race is not a valid biological classification.

Race is a valid biological classification, as races tend to have an array of genomes only found within said race.

[Cannabis Islands]

So, since I'm of Mexican extraction, that makes me a criminal?

No, not neccessarily. But you have a higher likehood of being a criminal due to statistics. That is not Donald said. What he said was that many illegal immigrants are criminals, rapists, murderers, etc; and much of that is true. The recent events in San Francisco illustrate this. Now, many illegal immigrants come here for a better life; but they should come legally.

Before you misquote Mr. Trump, I suggest you actually read what he said.

Well, I was born in the United States to an american-born mother and legal immigrant from Mexico, my father. And he said "people from Mexico", he did not differentiate between undocumented people and people from Mexico. I really fucking appreciate you saying that are more likely to be a criminal because of my extraction. Thank you very much.

[British Empire Strikes Back]

No he is not a racist. Latinos are not a race, so there is no possibility he could be racist against them. Although I am a proud Social Democrat and supporter of Bernie Sanders I do agree with a few of Trump's points on illegal immigration and the crime associated therein.

Then what would you call the vast majority of Mexico and many other South American nations, which are largely of mixed Native and European descent?

By Native you do mean Amerindian? A population with little in common genetically or culturally with Native Americans or Canadian Aboriginals?

I would call them mestizo, Latin American, Latino, etc. They are not Hispanic as Hispanic literally means an inhabitant of the peninsula of Hispania, which Latinos are not inhabitants of. Latin Americans are not really Latin either, as it is a Roman term. Perhaps Hispanicised Mixed-Race Peoples of Southern North and South America is more appropriate?

However peoples such as Argentinians, European Brazilians, European Chileans, and Uruguayans, are European in origin. And are thus, Europeans.

[British Empire Strikes Back]

No, not neccessarily. But you have a higher likehood of being a criminal due to statistics. That is not Donald said. What he said was that many illegal immigrants are criminals, rapists, murderers, etc; and much of that is true. The recent events in San Francisco illustrate this. Now, many illegal immigrants come here for a better life; but they should come legally.

Before you misquote Mr. Trump, I suggest you actually read what he said.

Well, I was born in the United States to an american-born mother and legal immigrant from Mexico, my father. And he said "people from Mexico", he did not differentiate between undocumented people and people from Mexico. I really fucking appreciate you saying that are more likely to be a criminal because of my extraction. Thank you very much.

Well, you are not from Mexico. You are from America. Latinos are more likely to commit crime than European Americans, it is a proven fact based off of US government crime statistics.

[Cannabis Islands]

Well, I was born in the United States to an american-born mother and legal immigrant from Mexico, my father. And he said "people from Mexico", he did not differentiate between undocumented people and people from Mexico. I really fucking appreciate you saying that are more likely to be a criminal because of my extraction. Thank you very much.

Well, you are not from Mexico. You are from America. Latinos are more likely to commit crime than European Americans, it is a proven fact based off of US government crime statistics.

Yep, it's my extraction that will cause me to turn to crime. Makes since to me.