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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:24 pm

Only if Alexander the Great is leading the Romans.
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Postby Islamic Meritocratic Transoxiana » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:28 pm

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Diopolis wrote:I was under the impression North Korean cinema was more concerned with twenty hour spy thrillers than adaptations of S.M. Stirling novels.


maybe

I doubt their movies are any good. Their policies encourage artistic repression.


They had to kidnap some poor South Korean director prisoner for decades to make movies for them. So you're probably right.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:30 pm

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Diopolis wrote:I was under the impression North Korean cinema was more concerned with twenty hour spy thrillers than adaptations of S.M. Stirling novels.


maybe

I doubt their movies are any good. Their policies encourage artistic repression.

Encourage? They are artistic repression incarnate.

Although Pulgasari was better than Zilla 1998.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:32 pm

Islamic Meritocratic Transoxiana wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
maybe

I doubt their movies are any good. Their policies encourage artistic repression.


They had to kidnap some poor South Korean director prisoner for decades to make movies for them. So you're probably right.

Ironically, that director's story is probably better than most NK films'.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:39 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Only if Alexander the Great is leading the Romans.


I think he's a bit over-rated.

What good will he do against the North Korean Empire?

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:43 pm

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The Liberated Territories wrote:Only if Alexander the Great is leading the Romans.


I think he's a bit over-rated.

What good will he do against the North Korean Empire?

What North Korean empire?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:44 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I think he's a bit over-rated.

What good will he do against the North Korean Empire?

What North Korean empire?


the one invading from France/England in this scenario

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:46 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:What North Korean empire?


the one invading from France/England in this scenario

It's not an empire until after it conquers vast cuts of land.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:01 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
the one invading from France/England in this scenario

It's not an empire until after it conquers vast cuts of land.


I'd say intention is enough. If you intend to grab more land and you already have a lot of land (filled with subjects you at some point, recently or in the distant past used some form of force to subjugate), then you qualify in my book. You can have a tiny empire too.

Its quite lax I know.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:02 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:Only if Alexander the Great is leading the Romans.


I think he's a bit over-rated.

What do you think makes him overrated?

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Postby Sistar » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:15 pm

North Korea, easily.

However, North Korea cannot beat any industrialized nation, because it uses archaic weapons during warfare.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:16 pm

Sistar wrote:North Korea, easily.

However, North Korea cannot beat any industrialized nation, because it uses archaic weapons during warfare.


Cold War era is archaic?

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:17 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I think he's a bit over-rated.

What do you think makes him overrated?


all he did was conquer a ton of land from very disorganised enemies

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Postby Sistar » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:20 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Sistar wrote:North Korea, easily.

However, North Korea cannot beat any industrialized nation, because it uses archaic weapons during warfare.


Cold War era is archaic?


Yes, its nuclear arsenal is even questionable.

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Postby Russels Orbiting Teapot » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:20 pm

Sistar wrote:North Korea, easily.

However, North Korea cannot beat any industrialized nation, because it uses archaic weapons during warfare.


I don't know, they might be able to take on modern Greece, if no one else intervened.
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Postby Meryuma » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:21 pm

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But they have numbers.

So does Rome...


Not really. China has basically always been the most densely-populated area of the world.
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Postby Sistar » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:23 pm

Russels Orbiting Teapot wrote:
Sistar wrote:North Korea, easily.

However, North Korea cannot beat any industrialized nation, because it uses archaic weapons during warfare.


I don't know, they might be able to take on modern Greece, if no one else intervened.


Greece is industrialized, despite all that debt??

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:23 pm

Sistar wrote:North Korea, easily.

However, North Korea cannot beat any industrialized nation, because it uses archaic weapons during warfare.


You are aware the KPA has been modernizing for the past 10 years right? I've gone in depth on it a number of times on the forums.
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Postby Russels Orbiting Teapot » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:25 pm

Sistar wrote:Greece is industrialized, despite all that debt??


Yes. The debt is a recent issue.

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Postby Sistar » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:26 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Sistar wrote:North Korea, easily.

However, North Korea cannot beat any industrialized nation, because it uses archaic weapons during warfare.


You are aware the KPA has been modernizing for the past 10 years right? I've gone in depth on it a number of times on the forums.


Their citizens have smartphones virtually without internet. They have surely modernized. :p

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Postby Pandeeria » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:26 pm

North Korea literally has technology on the level of gods compared to Rome (Even their non-nuclear missiles would be considered god-like by the Romans). That doesn't take into account that North Korea actually has fire arms, while the Romans mostly have spears, swords, and bows. They didn't even have muskets.

North Korea would absolutely ruin Rome.
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Postby Sistar » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:26 pm

Pandeeria wrote:North Korea literally has technology on the level of gods compared to Rome (Even their non-nuclear missiles would be considered god-like by the Romans). That doesn't take into account that North Korea actually has fire arms, while the Romans mostly have spears, swords, and bows. They didn't even have muskets.

North Korea would absolutely ruin Rome.


Of course, but I'm pretty sure Roman economy is better than that of North Korea. :p

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Postby Pandeeria » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:27 pm

Sistar wrote:North Korea, easily.

However, North Korea cannot beat any industrialized nation, because it uses archaic weapons during warfare.


The North Koreans are quite a bit behind, but they're not as far behind as you'd think.
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In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Pandeeria » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:28 pm

Sistar wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:North Korea literally has technology on the level of gods compared to Rome (Even their non-nuclear missiles would be considered god-like by the Romans). That doesn't take into account that North Korea actually has fire arms, while the Romans mostly have spears, swords, and bows. They didn't even have muskets.

North Korea would absolutely ruin Rome.


Of course, but I'm pretty sure Roman economy is better than that of North Korea. :p


Higher GDP, more stable currency.

Oh yeah, don't forget that the Romans have greater living standards.
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Postby Sistar » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:30 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Sistar wrote:North Korea, easily.

However, North Korea cannot beat any industrialized nation, because it uses archaic weapons during warfare.


The North Koreans are quite a bit behind, but they're not as far behind as you'd think.


I don't think there is any conclusive evidence they are not that far behind. Nuclear arsenals are questionable.

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