Rome vs. North Korea

by **CSS Merrimack** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:20 pm

Meryuma wrote:Rome has literally no advantage. North Korea vs early Imperial China, that might be a question. But Rome? Naah.

The Chinese would face the same difficulties as the Romans.

by **Islamic Meritocratic Transoxiana** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:22 pm

CSS Merrimack wrote:
Meryuma wrote:Rome has literally no advantage. North Korea vs early Imperial China, that might be a question. But Rome? Naah.

The Chinese would face the same difficulties as the Romans.

But they have numbers.

by **The Empire of Pretantia** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:25 pm

Islamic Meritocratic Transoxiana wrote:
CSS Merrimack wrote:The Chinese would face the same difficulties as the Romans.

But they have numbers.

NK has guns.

by **The Martian Hegemony** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:27 pm

A long fight in which the Romans result to guerilla tactics, which manages to hold the line for a while. Then NK goes crazy and nukes several cities of Rome (which they always wanted to do, I mean, come on). After this, several factions of Rome split apart, which are defeated, but not after causing a major blow to NK. Both sides eventually die out, with NK being killed off slowly by rampaging barbarians and Roman remnants. History changes in ways I can't describe on the fly, and barbarians might get a hold of a nuke, drastically altering the way the world progressed.

by **CSS Merrimack** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:29 pm

Islamic Meritocratic Transoxiana wrote:
CSS Merrimack wrote:The Chinese would face the same difficulties as the Romans.

But they have numbers.

So does Rome...

by **The Two Jerseys** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:44 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
And it still won't change the fact that their combat vehicles are useless without petroleum.

So they'll ride horses until they can get oil, no big deal.

It would take them years to develop an offshore drilling industry. Until then, their mechanized army is reduced to the Grand Armee with Kalashnikovs, which would greatly improve the Romans' chances.

by **Conserative Morality** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:59 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:It would take them years to develop an offshore drilling industry. Until then, their mechanized army is reduced to the Grand Armee with Kalashnikovs, which would greatly improve the Romans' chances.

"Grand Armee with Kalashnikovs"

I love that description.

by **The Empire of Pretantia** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:11 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:So they'll ride horses until they can get oil, no big deal.

It would take them years to develop an offshore drilling industry. Until then, their mechanized army is reduced to the Grand Armee with Kalashnikovs, which would greatly improve the Romans' chances.

It'll improve their chances to as far as AKs reach.

by **USS Monitor** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:12 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Over trains and river boats?

Steamboats can only go where the rivers go, and trains can't run without tracks.

Gaul has no railroads, and you still need to get supplies from the river to the army in the field. That means either trucks or wagons. Steam-powered trucks are feasible, but their fuel is heavy and bulky, and supplying their fuel would reduce the amount of supplies that you can deliver to the battlefield.

So yes, a mule team isn't such a bad thing to have.

Hence 19th century people still used mules to supplement the river and rail transportation network, and NK can do the same thing much more easily than Rome can build steamboats.

by **USS Monitor** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:14 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
CSS Merrimack wrote:South Korean males average at 5 feet 7 inches. Also 5 feet 10 inches would be considered rather tall during ancient times (and into the middle ages) and thus would probably be the ball park for the Gauls and Germans. Your average Roman was probably a bit taller than your average North Korean however...

Monitor has a challenger!

A challenger who got their own name wrong...

by **The Empire of Pretantia** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:15 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Monitor has a challenger!

A challenger who got their own name wrong...

Close enough!

by **USS Monitor** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:20 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
A challenger who got their own name wrong...

Close enough!

No, really. USS Merrimack was the ship the Confederates refitted. CSS Virginia is what the Confederates renamed it after they were done. CSS Merrimack makes no sense.

And I really hope NK hurries up laying down those railways before this thread gets any more derailed.

by **CSS Merrimack** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:30 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Monitor has a challenger!

A challenger who got their own name wrong...

Virginia was already taken. Nothing wrong with honoring my previous name.

by **Napkiraly** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:43 pm

First we had a poster saying he was Ebola. Now we got one saying he's the USS Monitor and another saying he's the CSS Virginia/Merrimack.

*sigh* This why I'm an alcoholic.

by **Napkiraly** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:45 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:So they'll ride horses until they can get oil, no big deal.

It would take them years to develop an offshore drilling industry. Until then, their mechanized army is reduced to the Grand Armee with Kalashnikovs, which would greatly improve the Romans' chances.

Barely. They don't need APC's, IFVs and MBT's to have the advantage. Arty, assault rifles, LMG's, HMG's, mortars, grenades, etc. give'em plenty of advantage.

by **The Two Jerseys** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:59 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:It would take them years to develop an offshore drilling industry. Until then, their mechanized army is reduced to the Grand Armee with Kalashnikovs, which would greatly improve the Romans' chances.

"Grand Armee with Kalashnikovs"

I love that description.

Although Napoleon's men were better dressers by far.

by **Ferrari F12 Berlinetta** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:01 pm

Napkiraly wrote:First we had a poster saying he was Ebola. Now we got one saying he's the USS Monitor and another saying he's the CSS Virginia/Merrimack.

*sigh* This why I'm an alcoholic.

Now we have a Ferrari.

You should get some hard liquor now.

by **Napkiraly** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:02 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:"Grand Armee with Kalashnikovs"

I love that description.

Although Napoleon's men were better dressers by far.

Helps when your designer is Yves Saint-Laurent.

by **USS Monitor** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:04 pm

Napkiraly wrote:First we had a poster saying he was Ebola. Now we got one saying he's the USS Monitor and another saying he's the CSS Virginia/Merrimack.

*sigh* This why I'm an alcoholic.

-Ebola- is my puppet.

I am sorry that I drive you to drink. I hope that at least you have some good booze.

Also, ships are "she."

by **Napkiraly** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:07 pm

Ferrari F12 Berlinetta wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:First we had a poster saying he was Ebola. Now we got one saying he's the USS Monitor and another saying he's the CSS Virginia/Merrimack.

*sigh* This why I'm an alcoholic.

Now we have a Ferrari.

You should get some hard liquor now.

*Bangs head on wall*

Why God why

by **Diopolis** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:10 pm

I'll go with Rome, because unlike North Korea, they can be cast as good guys in the movie where this could possibly happen.

by **Infected Mushroom** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:11 pm

Diopolis wrote:I'll go with Rome, because unlike North Korea, they can be cast as good guys in the movie where this could possibly happen.

it depends on which nation's movie you're watching I suppose...

by **Diopolis** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:15 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Diopolis wrote:I'll go with Rome, because unlike North Korea, they can be cast as good guys in the movie where this could possibly happen.

it depends on which nation's movie you're watching I suppose...

I was under the impression North Korean cinema was more concerned with twenty hour spy thrillers than adaptations of S.M. Stirling novels.

by **The Two Jerseys** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:17 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Diopolis wrote:I'll go with Rome, because unlike North Korea, they can be cast as good guys in the movie where this could possibly happen.

it depends on which nation's movie you're watching I suppose...

KPA armored division gets Final Countdown-ed in order to prevent Roman legions from conquering the Three Kingdoms. *nods*

by **Infected Mushroom** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:22 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
it depends on which nation's movie you're watching I suppose...

I was under the impression North Korean cinema was more concerned with twenty hour spy thrillers than adaptations of S.M. Stirling novels.

maybe

I doubt their movies are any good. Their policies encourage artistic repression.

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