[Poll] Gun control - How much?

[Bulrosia]

Now, let's get back to the topic.

Yes like how whites should face gun control

and how all blacks should use birth control (sarcasm).

If you have a point, please make it.

I'm unaware of the specific legislation on firearms in the USA, but as it stands, what are the requirements for the purchase of firearms? Background checks?

[North Calaveras]

Yes like how whites should face gun control

and how all blacks should use birth control (sarcasm).

If you have a point, please make it.

I'm unaware of the specific legislation on firearms in the USA, but as it stands, what are the requirements for the purchase of firearms? Background checks?

it ranges depending on state, here in hawaii it's a very long and annoying process, leaving mostly criminals with guns.

[Bulrosia]

and how all blacks should use birth control (sarcasm).

If you have a point, please make it.

I'm unaware of the specific legislation on firearms in the USA, but as it stands, what are the requirements for the purchase of firearms? Background checks?

it ranges depending on state, here in hawaii it's a very long and annoying process, leaving mostly criminals with guns.

What about illegal imports or puchese of firearms?

It's seems in any state of country, anyone with high enough will power could get a weapon anyway.

[North Calaveras]

it ranges depending on state, here in hawaii it's a very long and annoying process, leaving mostly criminals with guns.

What about illegal imports or puchese of firearms?

It's seems in any state of country, anyone with high enough will power could get a weapon anyway.

willpower is most important, but criminals don't need to invest time or money through the legal process and are not restricted in what weapons they can get their hands on, leaving civilians at a large disadvantage.

[BK117B2]

You don't even know what racism is. Some whites are racist. But, some blacks are racists. Some Asians are racist. Some Europeans are racist. See? Every race has people that are racist. One race cannot be entirely racist.

how can black oppress white? With what power?

With the same power that can be used to oppress anyone.

Do you honestly think a rich, black judge has less power than a poor, white hospital security guard?

[BK117B2]

Now, let's get back to the topic.

Yes like how whites should face gun control

By all means: why should gun control laws be based on race?

[Conserative Morality]

agreed, they should focus on that, regulating the weapons themselves in my opinion is unconstitutional.

Dunno about that. I haven't any interest in allowing people to acquire MANPADS or .50 cal automatics without a good goddamn reason.

[Conserative Morality]

willpower is most important, but criminals don't need to invest time or money through the legal process and are not restricted in what weapons they can get their hands on, leaving civilians at a large disadvantage.

A .38 special will fuck someone up just like an AR-15 at the kind of range criminal interaction happens at. I don't think an arms race is the solution here.

[Stellonia]

Now, let's get back to the topic.

Yes like how whites should face gun control

Are you trying to suggest that only white people should be subject to gun restrictions? It most certainly sounds as if you do. Do you believe that some particular race is superior to the white race, or, to ask a more appropriate question, will you admit to believing that some particular race is superior to the white race?

[Stellonia]

I would also like to give you some advice for establishing a good policy for gun control in your nation: remember that when establishing a policy for gun control, you should always assume that the criminals will find a way to circumvent it.

[Jentopia-1]

Yes like how whites should face gun control

By all means: why should gun control laws be based on race?

The U.S. already has an implied system of race based gun laws. The other U.S. issue is the unaddressed privilege issue and the spreading of racism from parent to child. Racism is a form of ignorance. Racists shouldn't be deemed competent to raise children or move to positions of power. Privilege is the result of racists having money and power and controlling the construct and functioning of society. Cops would often arrest a law abiding hispanic or black person who merely owns a gun while not caring much if a white person who was raised to be racist by their extremely bigoted parents followed a black person for three blocks and then shooting him while trying to pass the murder as self-defense. Gun laws shouldn't be based on race, but are already based on race in an implied way. A racist owning a gun or reaching a political position of power or a police position ruins it for rest of society. The issue is that often the ignorants often get the most power and the most control of the U.S. and it's time to "occupy ignorance" and stop them from sinking everything else. Yet ignorance is promoted instead of tackled with. It's a spiral of death when intellectuals often are ignored or shunned by those in power and those with the money so that fools are often the ones who control and ruin things. It's like people actually want to think inside the box.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7OjoZjXtQY

[Sociobiology]

which doesn't work, less than 1% of the population has such a permit (45 out of fifty states have little restriction), and it is not likely to increase drastically. A criminal knows most people will not be armed. The deterrent value of a concealed weapon in almost non-existent. If you are really interested in personal defense deterrence should be your primary goal since if a confrontation never happens your risk is zero.

1) If you mean 5% of the population has concealed carry permits you would be more correct. This doesn't include states where there is no concealed carry permit, or where data isn't kept on the numbers..

Yes sorry 5% my brain is still on crime statistics.
there are no states with no concealed carry, unless you mean the ones that do not require permits to do it.

2) I wouldn't say little restriction. Average fee is $60 and 6 hours of classes.

i that would be little restriction, as far as meaningful permits go that is laughably simple.
Also I would like a source for that being the "average"

[North Arkana]

willpower is most important, but criminals don't need to invest time or money through the legal process and are not restricted in what weapons they can get their hands on, leaving civilians at a large disadvantage.

A .38 special will fuck someone up just like an AR-15 at the kind of range criminal interaction happens at. I don't think an arms race is the solution here.

I personally find it funny how one moment people are saying, "If you restrict the weapons we can have the criminals will outgun us!", some time later followed by an, "Assault rifles aren't bad, they've only been used 'x' amount of times in crimes!"

[North Calaveras]

A .38 special will fuck someone up just like an AR-15 at the kind of range criminal interaction happens at. I don't think an arms race is the solution here.

I personally find it funny how one moment people are saying, "If you restrict the weapons we can have the criminals will outgun us!", some time later followed by an, "Assault rifles aren't bad, they've only been used 'x' amount of times in crimes!"

assault rifles are rarely used in crimes, handguns are preferred because of concealment.

[Sam Hyde]

The only people whose guns need to be controlled are white people. Have you ever heard of a mass shooter that wasn't a white man?

Virginia Tech?

[Der Teutoniker]

I support the Second Amendment pretty strongly. The intent is clear, it's not about self defense, it's about the maintenance of liberty.

Whatever arms the US Government allows itself to have should not be barred from civilian ownership. Then again, I do also favor a 95% (or so) reduction in our "defense" spending. I'd rather see funded local militia groups making up the bulk of our "soldiers".

[BK117B2]

By all means: why should gun control laws be based on race?

The U.S. already has an implied system of race based gun laws. The other U.S. issue is the unaddressed privilege issue and the spreading of racism from parent to child. Racism is a form of ignorance. Racists shouldn't be deemed competent to raise children or move to positions of power. Privilege is the result of racists having money and power and controlling the construct and functioning of society. Cops would often arrest a law abiding hispanic or black person who merely owns a gun while not caring much if a white person who was raised to be racist by their extremely bigoted parents followed a black person for three blocks and then shooting him while trying to pass the murder as self-defense. Gun laws shouldn't be based on race, but are already based on race in an implied way. A racist owning a gun or reaching a political position of power or a police position ruins it for rest of society. The issue is that often the ignorants often get the most power and the most control of the U.S. and it's time to "occupy ignorance" and stop them from sinking everything else. Yet ignorance is promoted instead of tackled with. It's a spiral of death when intellectuals often are ignored or shunned by those in power and those with the money so that fools are often the ones who control and ruin things. It's like people actually want to think inside the box.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7OjoZjXtQY

That is a looooong 'they shouldn't'

[Stellonia]

By all means: why should gun control laws be based on race?

The U.S. already has an implied system of race based gun laws. The other U.S. issue is the unaddressed privilege issue and the spreading of racism from parent to child. Racism is a form of ignorance. Racists shouldn't be deemed competent to raise children or move to positions of power. Privilege is the result of racists having money and power and controlling the construct and functioning of society. Cops would often arrest a law abiding hispanic or black person who merely owns a gun while not caring much if a white person who was raised to be racist by their extremely bigoted parents followed a black person for three blocks and then shooting him while trying to pass the murder as self-defense. Gun laws shouldn't be based on race, but are already based on race in an implied way. A racist owning a gun or reaching a political position of power or a police position ruins it for rest of society. The issue is that often the ignorants often get the most power and the most control of the U.S. and it's time to "occupy ignorance" and stop them from sinking everything else. Yet ignorance is promoted instead of tackled with. It's a spiral of death when intellectuals often are ignored or shunned by those in power and those with the money so that fools are often the ones who control and ruin things. It's like people actually want to think inside the box.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7OjoZjXtQY

Are you trying to state that this is a valid reason to impose gun control upon whites without imposing it upon other racial groups?

[Jamzmania]

The only people whose guns need to be controlled are white people. Have you ever heard of a mass shooter that wasn't a white man?

Virginia Tech?

And Washington Naval Yard.

[Noraika]

Other than active duty military personnel, and specialist squads within the police forces, I oppose the idea of letting anyone who does not need a firearm for subsistence own a firearm, with strict regulations for ownership and heavy penalties for those who own illegal firearms, and with a policy focus in reducing the need for subsistence firearms. Overall the population should be unarmed, and the police and government should disarm alongside them except in the areas where it proves absolutely necessary (such as the military, for example).

[Jamzmania]

Other than active duty military personnel, and specialist squads within the police forces, I oppose the idea of letting anyone who does not need a firearm for subsistence own a firearm, with strict regulations for ownership and heavy penalties for those who own illegal firearms, and with a policy focus in reducing the need for subsistence firearms. Overall the population should be unarmed, and the police and government should disarm alongside them except in the areas where it proves absolutely necessary (such as the military, for example).

Anyone who does not need a car for subsistence should not own a car.

Also, the government disarming the citizenry... why does that sound so familiar...?

[Omega America II]

Other than active duty military personnel, and specialist squads within the police forces, I oppose the idea of letting anyone who does not need a firearm for subsistence own a firearm, with strict regulations for ownership and heavy penalties for those who own illegal firearms, and with a policy focus in reducing the need for subsistence firearms. Overall the population should be unarmed, and the police and government should disarm alongside them except in the areas where it proves absolutely necessary (such as the military, for example).

Wow really? How do we defend ourselves? With a knife? Really? No. Just no.

[The Krogan]

Other than active duty military personnel, and specialist squads within the police forces, I oppose the idea of letting anyone who does not need a firearm for subsistence own a firearm, with strict regulations for ownership and heavy penalties for those who own illegal firearms, and with a policy focus in reducing the need for subsistence firearms. Overall the population should be unarmed, and the police and government should disarm alongside them except in the areas where it proves absolutely necessary (such as the military, for example).

Wow really? How do we defend ourselves? With a knife? Really? No. Just no.

Well.. you can defend yourself with a knife.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Other than active duty military personnel, and specialist squads within the police forces, I oppose the idea of letting anyone who does not need a firearm for subsistence own a firearm, with strict regulations for ownership and heavy penalties for those who own illegal firearms, and with a policy focus in reducing the need for subsistence firearms. Overall the population should be unarmed, and the police and government should disarm alongside them except in the areas where it proves absolutely necessary (such as the military, for example).

Wow really? How do we defend ourselves? With a knife? Really? No. Just no.

I'm more than comfortable defending myself with a knife or in hand to hand. But not everyone has training in that shit which is one reasons gun ownership is nice.

[Cote d Argent]

Should we also ban martial arts and kitchen knives?