[Poll] Gun control - How much?

[Omega America II]

No, but people will do it anyways.

Well obviously, but trying to use that as an argument against gun control is just stupid.

I'm not using it as an argument. In fact, I just used that due to a talk about the black market.

[BK117B2]

Or, you could make sure the person who wants to harm them doesn't have the means to?

The problem with that method is that nobody has ever managed to DO it. Thousands of years of human history, and that has so far proven impossible....kind of leads me to believe that it probably won't be solved tomorrow either.

[BK117B2]

For stopping someone who would harm them.

I didn't know guns were the only way to protect yourself from harm. Thanks for the update.

At no point did I say anything about them being the only way to protect yourself.

[Godular]

I don't so much mind the nature of the guns being available. The only things I would prefer to be in place are background checks and mandatory training in order to purchase and use firearms. Make the training free as needs be.

A lot of tragedies regarding gun-related accidents can be traced back to improper storage and handling of firearms. It would be my preference to eliminate this problem by ensuring that everyone knows how to clean/store/respect firearms if they have any intent to use them.

[Omega America II]

Not just people with guns, any people that try to attck me.

I don't own a gun. I have never handled a 'real gun', only a air rifle in a controlled environment, and I have never needed a gun to defend myself. And, for that matter, never need to defend myself at all really.

Well then, that's good for you. I've handled a gun before, and have done it freely. I just believe we should be able to own rifles and such.

[Godular]

For stopping someone who would harm them.

Or, you could make sure the person who wants to harm them doesn't have the means to? Instead of 'giving a good guy a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun', make sure the bad guy never gets a gun?

See "War on Drugs".

[Omega America II]

I don't so much mind the nature of the guns being available. The only things I would prefer to be in place are background checks and mandatory training in order to purchase and use firearms. Make the training free as needs be.

A lot of tragedies regarding gun-related accidents can be traced back to improper storage and handling of firearms. It would be my preference to eliminate this problem by ensuring that everyone knows how to clean/store/respect firearms if they have any intent to use them.

I agree here. A little bit of gun control, but not too much. Just a little like this.

[Suicune]

I didn't know guns were the only way to protect yourself from harm. Thanks for the update.

At no point did I say anything about them being the only way to protect yourself.

Then why do we need them specifically, when there are other ways to protect yourself, that are far less likely to kill someone?

[Gun Manufacturers]

Not just people with guns, any people that try to attck me.

I don't own a gun. I have never handled a 'real gun', only a air rifle in a controlled environment, and I have never needed a gun to defend myself. And, for that matter, never need to defend myself at all really.

I own several firearms, and have handled dozens of other firearms, and have never needed a firearm to defend myself. And, for that matter, never need to defend myself at all really.

[Omega America II]

At no point did I say anything about them being the only way to protect yourself.

Then why do we need them specifically, when there are other ways to protect yourself, that are far less likely to kill someone?

Guns are harmful yes, but what about knives? Should we ban them too since they kill people?

[Suicune]

I don't own a gun. I have never handled a 'real gun', only a air rifle in a controlled environment, and I have never needed a gun to defend myself. And, for that matter, never need to defend myself at all really.

I own several firearms, and have handled dozens of other firearms, and have never needed a firearm to defend myself. And, for that matter, never need to defend myself at all really.

Then why do you need them?

[BK117B2]

At no point did I say anything about them being the only way to protect yourself.

Then why do we need them specifically, when there are other ways to protect yourself, that are far less likely to kill someone?

Since they are more effective.

[Omega America II]

I own several firearms, and have handled dozens of other firearms, and have never needed a firearm to defend myself. And, for that matter, never need to defend myself at all really.

Then why do you need them?

Because we might need them one day.

[Godular]

At no point did I say anything about them being the only way to protect yourself.

Then why do we need them specifically, when there are other ways to protect yourself, that are far less likely to kill someone?

The point of having a firearm is to be able to defend yourself in a manner that keeps them from reaching you to harm you.

[BK117B2]

Then why do you need them?

Because we might need them one day.

Much like a seatbelt, waiting until after an accident to have one installed doesn't do any good

[Omega America II]

Because we might need them one day.

Much like a seatbelt, waiting until after an accident to have one installed doesn't do any good

Yes, it is like that.

[Gun Manufacturers]

I own several firearms, and have handled dozens of other firearms, and have never needed a firearm to defend myself. And, for that matter, never need to defend myself at all really.

Then why do you need them?

Target shooting. Although there is a possibility that I will take up hunting (I can always ask my brother in law to teach me, if I can get over my weak stomach). I also enjoy the mechanics of firearms.

[British Accia]

Because we might need them one day.

Much like a seatbelt, waiting until after an accident to have one installed doesn't do any good

Except a seatbelt does not pose a danger to anyone else, cannot be used accidental and is not intimidating and threatening to those around you.

[Godular]

Much like a seatbelt, waiting until after an accident to have one installed doesn't do any good

Except a seatbelt does not pose a danger to anyone else, cannot be used accidental and is not intimidating and threatening to those around you.

Ban cars!

[Omega America II]

Much like a seatbelt, waiting until after an accident to have one installed doesn't do any good

Except a seatbelt does not pose a danger to anyone else, cannot be used accidental and is not intimidating and threatening to those around you.

Yet those around you can also harm you, which is why you can stop them from a far and not get harmed yourself.

[Omega America II]

Except a seatbelt does not pose a danger to anyone else, cannot be used accidental and is not intimidating and threatening to those around you.

Ban cars!

Lol.

[British Accia]

Then why do you need them?

Target shooting. Although there is a possibility that I will take up hunting (I can always ask my brother in law to teach me, if I can get over my weak stomach). I also enjoy the mechanics of firearms.

I can understand having guns for target shooting an hunting. If, you use them, then keep the securely in a shed, or where ever you keep guns. I just do not understand why people need to carry them around with them.

[BK117B2]

Much like a seatbelt, waiting until after an accident to have one installed doesn't do any good

Except a seatbelt does not pose a danger to anyone else, cannot be used accidental and is not intimidating and threatening to those around you.

My firearms don't pose a danger to anyone who isn't trying to harm me. My firearms are not threats or intimidations to anyone around me.

And nothing you mentioned addressed the issue in any way: waiting until you need a firearm is like waiting until you need a seatbelt....generally useless

[Godular]

Target shooting. Although there is a possibility that I will take up hunting (I can always ask my brother in law to teach me, if I can get over my weak stomach). I also enjoy the mechanics of firearms.

I can understand having guns for target shooting an hunting. If, you use them, then keep the securely in a shed, or where ever you keep guns. I just do not understand why people need to carry them around with them.

As I stated a few posts up, firearms are good from defending yourself from a threat before it actually gets to you.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Sort of an option 3.5? Let people have guns (rifles, not pistols, or whatever you call them, I'm not knowledgeable in guns) who need them. Farmers, armed police (not standard, regular, bobbies on the beat), the army and armed guards (for people like the PM, or whoever). Let the citizenry own pistols (or handguns, again, not gun knowledgeable), with an extensive licencing process, and strict control.

Citizens don't need guns.

Citizens don't need a bevy of things. Big sodas, sports cars, tattoos, basketballs, rubber chickens...That list is damn-near endless what with 'need' consisting of 'food, water, shelter', and considerable unnecessary items falling even under that umbrella (see: foie gras).

For stopping someone who would harm them.

I didn't know guns were the only way to protect yourself from harm. Thanks for the update.

They are certainly more effective than alternatives, having a longer range than pepper spray or tazers while also possessing a greater success rate due to lethality.
Which is not to say such less-lethal options shouldn't be legal or encouraged at all. But it's decidedly not reason to kick firearms to the curb.

No, but people will do it anyways.

Well obviously, but trying to use that as an argument against gun control is just stupid.

Much like arguing based on the 'need' of firearms.

At no point did I say anything about them being the only way to protect yourself.

Then why do we need them specifically, when there are other ways to protect yourself, that are far less likely to kill someone?

See above. Because those ways have decidedly significant drawbacks and disadvantages in comparison to firearms.

I own several firearms, and have handled dozens of other firearms, and have never needed a firearm to defend myself. And, for that matter, never need to defend myself at all really.

Then why do you need them?

Self-defense is not the sole usage of firearms. In fact, it's a decidedly less common usage based on bullet expenditure of legally owned firearms. The vast majority of the 'need' is in target shooting and/or ranging and hunting purposes.
Also, 'need' is, once again, a really stupid standard.