[Poll] Gun control - How much?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Its actually really hard to kill someone with a knife.

Not if you have the slightest idea what you're doing. All you really need is a basic knowledge of human anatomy.

That's a description of every form of armed individual combat ever, including shooting.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Not if you have the slightest idea what you're doing. All you really need is a basic knowledge of human anatomy.

That's a description of every form of armed individual combat ever, including shooting.

I dunno, some people seem to think that "point in general direction and shoot" works just fine

[Big Jim P]

Not if you have the slightest idea what you're doing. All you really need is a basic knowledge of human anatomy.

That's a description of every form of armed individual combat ever, including shooting.

The fact that people can and have killed or caused great bodily harm unarmed, armed with blunt objects and knives is a very good reason to make it easier for the innocent and law-abiding to own and carry firearms.

[Big Jim P]

That's a description of every form of armed individual combat ever, including shooting.

I dunno, some people seem to think that "point in general direction and shoot" works just fine

At short range, it often does.

[Llamalandia]

That's a description of every form of armed individual combat ever, including shooting.

The fact that people can and have killed or caused great bodily harm unarmed, armed with blunt objects and knives is a very good reason to make it easier for the innocent and law-abiding to own and carry firearms.

: facepalm :

Oh big Jim. You just don't get it do you? Once we have outlawed all the guns, then we can implement Al Sharptons knife control plan to take care of stabbing deaths. Then we move on to "blunt object control".

[Big Jim P]

The fact that people can and have killed or caused great bodily harm unarmed, armed with blunt objects and knives is a very good reason to make it easier for the innocent and law-abiding to own and carry firearms.

: facepalm :

Oh big Jim. You just don't get it do you? Once we have outlawed all the guns, then we can implement Al Sharptons knife control plan to take care of stabbing deaths. Then we move on to "blunt object control".

But that is what Great Britain is doing. I thought we rebelled against them.

[Llamalandia]

: facepalm :

Oh big Jim. You just don't get it do you? Once we have outlawed all the guns, then we can implement Al Sharptons knife control plan to take care of stabbing deaths. Then we move on to "blunt object control".

But that is what Great Britain is doing. I thought we rebelled against them.

Just be glad Piers Morgan is gone. He'll Britain can have the colonies so long as they promise to keep him off tv.

[Gun Manufacturers]

But that is what Great Britain is doing. I thought we rebelled against them.

Just be glad Piers Morgan is gone. He'll Britain can have the colonies so long as they promise to keep him off tv.

Let me get out of CT first, please.

[Deuxtete]

Its actually really hard to kill someone with a knife.

Not if you have the slightest idea what you're doing. All you really need is a basic knowledge of human anatomy.

And so long as they stand still while you work.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Not if you have the slightest idea what you're doing. All you really need is a basic knowledge of human anatomy.

And so long as they stand still while you work.

If they know you have a knife and are trying to kill them before you've stabbed them you're doing it wrong.

[Big Jim P]

And so long as they stand still while you work.

If they know you have a knife and are trying to kill them before you've stabbed them you're doing it wrong.

And at knife range, a moving target isn't that hard to strike.

[Llamalandia]

If they know you have a knife and are trying to kill them before you've stabbed them you're doing it wrong.

And at knife range, a moving target isn't that hard to strike.

Or you could always use a ballistic knife.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_knife

It's the knife you shoot like a gun.

[Washington Resistance Army]

If they know you have a knife and are trying to kill them before you've stabbed them you're doing it wrong.

And at knife range, a moving target isn't that hard to strike.

Very true. Don't get me wrong, killing someone with a knife is harder than using a gun but it's still fairly easy.

The thing about people who want to kill other people is that they will always find a way to do it, punishing Average Joe over those people is nonsensical.

[Big Jim P]

And at knife range, a moving target isn't that hard to strike.

Very true. Don't get me wrong, killing someone with a knife is harder than using a gun but it's still fairly easy.

The thing about people who want to kill other people is that they will always find a way to do it, punishing Average Joe over those people is nonsensical.

Punishing Average Joe by disarming him is just plain stupid.

[Shamhnan Insir]

I'm fine with most firearm rights, but don't understand why assault rifles are legal (or at least as simple to get your hands on).

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'm fine with most firearm rights, but don't understand why assault rifles are legal (or at least as simple to get your hands on).

Real assault rifles (ie automatic) are a pain in the ass to acquire legally.

[Sevvania]

I'm fine with most firearm rights, but don't understand why assault rifles are legal (or at least as simple to get your hands on).

Real assault rifles (ie automatic) are a pain in the ass to acquire legally.

And "assault weapons" are not capable of fully-automatic fire, as they are functionally identical to typical semi-automatic sporting rifles.

[Shamhnan Insir]

Real assault rifles (ie automatic) are a pain in the ass to acquire legally.

And "assault weapons" are not capable of fully-automatic fire, as they are functionally identical to typical semi-automatic sporting rifles.

As far as I was aware only 7 states had outright bans on assault weapons.

EDIT:
Whats more,

In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that are designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use Justice Department 1994.

Fully-automatic fire or a fast trigger finger on semi-auto, it doesn't matter. I still don't get the point of these weapons being in public hands.

[Big Jim P]

I'm fine with most firearm rights, but don't understand why assault rifles are legal (or at least as simple to get your hands on).

They are the least likely to be used criminally, so there would be no point in restricting them.

[Big Jim P]

Real assault rifles (ie automatic) are a pain in the ass to acquire legally.

And "assault weapons" are not capable of fully-automatic fire, as they are functionally identical to typical semi-automatic sporting rifles.

They are, in fact, sport or defense rifles.

[Paddy O Fernature]

And "assault weapons" are not capable of fully-automatic fire, as they are functionally identical to typical semi-automatic sporting rifles.

As far as I was aware only 7 states had outright bans on assault weapons.

EDIT:
Whats more,

In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that are designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use Justice Department 1994.

Fully-automatic fire or a fast trigger finger on semi-auto, it doesn't matter. I still don't get the point of these weapons being in public hands.

So a Ruger mini14 is OK in your mind, but a Bushmaster AR isn't?

Nice edit you just did BTW. My question still stands though despite the edit.

[Gauthier]

It's telling when even "Let's make sure we have thorough and working background checks to guarantee we don't let unhinged Joker-wannabes get their hands on firearms easily" get shouted down as the first step in Gun Confiscation.

[Paddy O Fernature]

It's telling when even "Let's make sure we have thorough and working background checks to guarantee we don't let unhinged Joker-wannabes get their hands on firearms easily" get shouted down as the first step in Gun Confiscation.

Make NICS free and publically available so as not to put increased strain and burden on the law abiding citizens, an maybe we can agree to this "compromise".

[Llamalandia]

It's telling when even "Let's make sure we have thorough and working background checks to guarantee we don't let unhinged Joker-wannabes get their hands on firearms easily" get shouted down as the first step in Gun Confiscation.

It's all about triangulating. Essentially most of those people are in reality probably ok with the background checks we have now and expandi them and making sure they are enforced (mostly there are some issues, such as in California where it is too easy to be labelled crazy but in general the system we have now is about right). But if they admit that then the point of compromise shifts toward stricter gun control. After all if half the people are shouting no gun control and the other half is shouting for complete confiscation then the mid point between them is to allow some guns. If either side moves from its highly polarized position it risk losing out in a compromise.

[Llamalandia]

I'm fine with most firearm rights, but don't understand why assault rifles are legal (or at least as simple to get your hands on).

Why shouldn't they be? They often aren't any more effective in terms of killing than similiar semi auto "assault weapons". So why shouldn't full auto assault rifles be legal (I'm talking post 80s manufactured ones) as well? They may not be especially practical for killing but I hear they are hella fun to shoot.