To Porn or not To Porn? That is the Question

[The Serbian Empire]

I´d like to see the document where the EU says they want to ban porn in their 28 member countries.

And as almost everyone on here I think a ban on porn is stupid/bad etc.
The last time I heard something about the porn industry from the mainstream media, there was something about regisseurs trying to make smut for women. But don´t quote me on that.

It's called the Istanbul Convention and the 19 feminists involved in writing this used the Nordic Model (They're SWERFs).

[Serconas]

I´d like to see the document where the EU says they want to ban porn in their 28 member countries.

And as almost everyone on here I think a ban on porn is stupid/bad etc.
The last time I heard something about the porn industry from the mainstream media, there was something about regisseurs trying to make smut for women. But don´t quote me on that.

It's called the Istanbul Convention and the 19 feminists involved in writing this used the Nordic Model (They're SWERFs).

Ah thank you.

Recognising that domestic violence affects women disproportionately, and that men may also be victims of domestic violence;

That´s good. c:

But where is a ban on porn stated? I don´t seem to find anything regarding that.

Article 17 – Participation of the private sector and the media

1 Parties shall encourage the private sector, the information and communication technology sector and the media, with due respect for freedom of expression and their independence, to participate in the elaboration and implementation of policies and to set guidelines and self-regulatory standards to prevent violence against women and to enhance respect for their dignity.

2 Parties shall develop and promote, in co-operation with private sector actors, skills among children, parents and educators on how to deal with the information and communications environment that provides access to degrading content of a sexual or violent nature which might be harmful.

This could probably interpreted as something alike. In a very, very, very broad sense.

[Solaas]

I´d like to see the document where the EU says they want to ban porn in their 28 member countries.

And as almost everyone on here I think a ban on porn is stupid/bad etc.
The last time I heard something about the porn industry from the mainstream media, there was something about regisseurs trying to make smut for women. But don´t quote me on that.

It's called the Istanbul Convention and the 19 feminists involved in writing this used the Nordic Model (They're SWERFs).

What a mess.
Istanbul Convention is about domestic violence against women.
Nordic model is about prostitution.
Bann of porn is another thing.
These three things are feminist issues, but different.

Though, you're right about the fact that all GREVIO members (Convention of Istanbul) supports Nordic Model (criminalisation of purchasing sex).

Porn is however correlated with violence against women, indeed is strongly supported by ROKS, the main Swedish organization of shelters for women.

[Benuty]

It's called the Istanbul Convention and the 19 feminists involved in writing this used the Nordic Model (They're SWERFs).

What a mess.
Istanbul Convention is about domestic violence against women.
Nordic model is about prostitution.
Bann of porn is another thing.
These three things are feminist issues, but different.

Though, you're right about the fact that all GREVIO members (Convention of Istanbul) supports Nordic Model (criminalisation of purchasing sex).

Porn is however correlated with violence against women, indeed is strongly supported by ROKS, the main Swedish organization of shelters for women.

So 100% of porn even if it doesn't involve women whatsoever is correlated for causing violence toward women?

[Threlizdun]

What a mess.
Istanbul Convention is about domestic violence against women.
Nordic model is about prostitution.
Bann of porn is another thing.
These three things are feminist issues, but different.

Though, you're right about the fact that all GREVIO members (Convention of Istanbul) supports Nordic Model (criminalisation of purchasing sex).

Porn is however correlated with violence against women, indeed is strongly supported by ROKS, the main Swedish organization of shelters for women.

So 100% of porn even if it doesn't involve women whatsoever is correlated for causing violence toward women?

As well as porn directed by queer feminist women that make body positivity, respect, and consent the primary themes of their work apparently.

[Galloism]

What a mess.
Istanbul Convention is about domestic violence against women.
Nordic model is about prostitution.
Bann of porn is another thing.
These three things are feminist issues, but different.

Though, you're right about the fact that all GREVIO members (Convention of Istanbul) supports Nordic Model (criminalisation of purchasing sex).

Porn is however correlated with violence against women, indeed is strongly supported by ROKS, the main Swedish organization of shelters for women.

So 100% of porn even if it doesn't involve women whatsoever is correlated for causing violence toward women?

Funny part is the science doesn't support this. Increased availability of porn is actually correlated with decreased sexual violence. It is correlated: in the inverse.

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/15/does_po ... _violence/

Note: not claiming porn decreases violence, but claiming porn increases violence is a hard point to prove when crime statistics show an inverse correlation.

[Neutraligon]

So do explicit romance novels count as porn?

Also, as long as no one is hurt (consent and all that stuff) I don't see the problem. I am a feminist by the way.

[Alyakia]

So do explicit romance novels count as porn?

Also, as long as no one is hurt (consent and all that stuff) I don't see the problem. I am a feminist by the way.

only if they get it out, or perhaps more importantly, in

[Galloism]

So do explicit romance novels count as porn?

Also, as long as no one is hurt (consent and all that stuff) I don't see the problem. I am a feminist by the way.

You aren't a "true feminist". A SWERF might sniff you. They might smell liberalism on you and expel you from their definitions.

[The Cobalt Sky]

So do explicit romance novels count as porn?

Also, as long as no one is hurt (consent and all that stuff) I don't see the problem. I am a feminist by the way.

You aren't a "true feminist". A SWERF might sniff you. They might smell liberalism on you and expel you from their definitions.

What's a SWERF? That sounds life a smurf that does a lot of drugs.

[Neutraligon]

You aren't a "true feminist". A SWERF might sniff you. They might smell liberalism on you and expel you from their definitions.

What's a SWERF? That sounds life a smurf that does a lot of drugs.

Sex Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminist

[Galloism]

You aren't a "true feminist". A SWERF might sniff you. They might smell liberalism on you and expel you from their definitions.

What's a SWERF? That sounds life a smurf that does a lot of drugs.

Must resist comment must resist comment........

Sex worker exclusionary radical feminist.

Now, I must run away before my urge to make mean comments overcomes my desire not to be warned.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

You aren't a "true feminist". A SWERF might sniff you. They might smell liberalism on you and expel you from their definitions.

What's a SWERF? That sounds life a smurf that does a lot of drugs.

Radfems who think porn is the devil and prostitution is worse than Hitler.

[The Cobalt Sky]

What's a SWERF? That sounds life a smurf that does a lot of drugs.

Sex Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminist

Thanks!

What's a SWERF? That sounds life a smurf that does a lot of drugs.

Must resist comment must resist comment........

Sex worker exclusionary radical feminist.

Now, I must run away before my urge to make mean comments overcomes my desire not to be warned.

Give into your base instincts... IT'S SUMMER, REMEMBER?

[The Cobalt Sky]

What's a SWERF? That sounds life a smurf that does a lot of drugs.

Radfems who think porn is the devil and prostitution is worse than Hitler.

If porn is the devil, then I've at least got to be some sort of Arch Demon, like Mephistopheles.

[Napkiraly]

Radfems who think porn is the devil and prostitution is worse than Hitler.

If porn is the devil, then I've at least got to be some sort of Arch Demon, like Mephistopheles.

So you're saying that you're hentai incarnate?


Also Chess, how do you work around the fact that a number of female porn stars enjoy their work? I mean banning porn, a job they enjoy, seems far more anti-feminist and anti-female agency then, well, not banning it.

[Galloism]

If porn is the devil, then I've at least got to be some sort of Arch Demon, like Mephistopheles.

So you're saying that you're hentai incarnate?


Also Chess, how do you work around the fact that a number of female porn stars enjoy their work? I mean banning porn, a job they enjoy, seems far more anti-feminist and anti-female agency then, well, not banning it.

They're secretly oppressed. Once they receive and understand the word of radical feminism, light of the world, they will see the way and abandon their porn-making ways.

[The Cobalt Sky]

If porn is the devil, then I've at least got to be some sort of Arch Demon, like Mephistopheles.

So you're saying that you're hentai incarnate?

Well, I am a tentacle monster.

[The Krogan]

So you're saying that you're hentai incarnate?

Well, I am a tentacle monster.

[Napkiraly]

So you're saying that you're hentai incarnate?

Well, I am a tentacle monster.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

So you're saying that you're hentai incarnate?

Well, I am a tentacle monster.

Jo, is that you?

[Solaas]

So 100% of porn even if it doesn't involve women whatsoever is correlated for causing violence toward women?

As well as porn directed by queer feminist women that make body positivity, respect, and consent the primary themes of their work apparently.

And these queer "feminist" women enforce "consent" through economical blackmail (coercion, you know? Sex obtained through coercion is rape, you know, these things....), and that's their idea of "respect".
Apparently...

If two partners wish to record their "performance" and share it for free with few friends or even with all the world: that should be allowed.
Otherwise, with economical blackmail, it's coercion.

[Aelex]

And these queer "feminist" women enforce "consent" through economical blackmail (coercion, you know? Sex obtained through coercion is rape, you know, these things....), and that's their idea of "respect".
Apparently...

So if we follow your way of think, any romantic move such as going to a date with a girl or buying her flower, is a form of coercion and thus a rape?
Damn. I mean, damn. It's not so much "respect" than trying to spoil the fun for everyone else...

[Neutraligon]

And these queer "feminist" women enforce "consent" through economical blackmail (coercion, you know? Sex obtained through coercion is rape, you know, these things....), and that's their idea of "respect".
Apparently...

So if we follow your way of think, any romantic move such as going to a date with a girl or buying her flower, is a form of coercion and thus a rape?
Damn. I mean, damn. It's not so much "respect" than trying to spoil the fun for everyone else...

Who knew jobs where a form of blackmail.

[Kisinger]

So if we follow your way of think, any romantic move such as going to a date with a girl or buying her flower, is a form of coercion and thus a rape?
Damn. I mean, damn. It's not so much "respect" than trying to spoil the fun for everyone else...

Who knew jobs where a form of blackmail.

Just think about it, the whole working class is getting blackmailed to make money.... Wonderful isn't it?