To Porn or not To Porn? That is the Question

[NeuPolska]

I came here for the orgy the OP promised

[Chessmistress]

More realistically:

So is the United Nations.

Yeah, and the United Nations

...and the United Nations is a little feminist, too

http://www.heforshe.org

http://www.vulture.com/2014/09/emma-wat ... peech.html

[Geilinor]

Yeah, and the United Nations

...and the United Nations is a little feminist, too

http://www.heforshe.org

http://www.vulture.com/2014/09/emma-wat ... peech.html

Emma Watson isn't a radical feminist - she thinks men can be feminists, for one.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

An Interesting OFFICIAL document
That's not exactly the guy screaming the sun is about to explode

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/get ... /EN#title1



EU says pornography, ALL forms of pornography, hurts women.

That's the future, get used to it.

Here is the adopted Texts of said Document http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/get ... -2012-0401

Notice how the only mention of Pornography is this(using the Ctrl+F trick) "N. whereas young women and men are most affected by pornography’s new cultural status; whereas the ‘mainstreaming of pornography’, i.e. the current cultural process whereby pornography is slipping into our everyday lives as an evermore universally accepted, often idealised, cultural element, manifests itself particularly clearly within youth culture: from teenage television and lifestyle magazines to music videos and commercials targeted at the young;"

Let's not forget this document is 2 years old....

Sounds less like concern for women and more like moral guardianship.

[Napkiraly]

An Interesting OFFICIAL document
That's not exactly the guy screaming the sun is about to explode

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/get ... /EN#title1

MOTION FOR A EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT RESOLUTION

on eliminating gender stereotypes in the EU

(2012/2116(INI))

O. whereas young women and men are most affected by pornography’s new cultural status; whereas the ‘mainstreaming of pornography’, i.e. the current cultural process whereby pornography is slipping into our everyday lives as an evermore universally accepted, often idealised, cultural element, manifests itself particularly clearly within youth culture: from teenage television and lifestyle magazines to music videos and commercials targeted at the young;

17. Calls on the EU and its Member States to take concrete action on its resolution of 16 September 1997 on discrimination against women in advertising, which called for a ban on all forms of pornography in the media and on the advertising of sex tourism(10);

18. Calls on the EU to conduct research into the links between child pornography and adult pornography and the impacts on girls, women, boys and men, as well as the relationship between pornography and sexual violence;

EU says pornography, ALL forms of pornography, hurts women.

That's the future, get used to it.

That's the result reached by a committee, not the EU itself. Secondly even if it were passed it'd face quite a lot of domestic resistance, law enforcement wouldn't be particularly bothered to enforce it, and it'd still be fucking stupid. It'd probably also turn lots of men and women off of feminism as a whole. Gotta say I dread to think how many you've done that with just by yourself.

[Geilinor]

It'd probably also turn lots of men and women off of feminism as a whole. Gotta say I dread to think how many you've done that with just by yourself.

This round of feminism threads has been a big turnoff for me.

[Napkiraly]

It'd probably also turn lots of men and women off of feminism as a whole. Gotta say I dread to think how many you've done that with just by yourself.

This round of feminism threads has been a big turnoff for me.

My respite is knowing plenty of women who are for transgender male to female (and also men) being part of the movement. As well as being in support of things like legalization and regulation of prostitution while watching porn or at least not wanting to see it banned.

If it wasn't for that, I'd be sticking one middle finger to the MRA's and the other to the feminist movement.

[The Krogan]

Yeah, and the United Nations

...and the United Nations is a little feminist, too

http://www.heforshe.org

http://www.vulture.com/2014/09/emma-wat ... peech.html

It's not a radical feminist though, there's a difference.

[Kalmarium]

...and the United Nations is a little feminist, too

http://www.heforshe.org

http://www.vulture.com/2014/09/emma-wat ... peech.html

It's not a radical feminist though, there's a difference.

Oh I would dread the day they do become radical feminists.

[The Krogan]

It's not a radical feminist though, there's a difference.

Oh I would dread the day they do become radical feminists.

I doubt that would happen.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Porn is something that's fine by me, otherwise I'd be at a lack of flags. But of course, the treatment of men and women, whether they be preforming in kinky or non-kinky or preforming in either hetero or homo porn should be improved upon.

[Geilinor]

This round of feminism threads has been a big turnoff for me.

My respite is knowing plenty of women who are for transgender male to female (and also men) being part of the movement. As well as being in support of things like legalization and regulation of prostitution while watching porn or at least not wanting to see it banned.

If it wasn't for that, I'd be sticking one middle finger to the MRA's and the other to the feminist movement.

It wasn't like this on NSG before, the more reasonable feminists ruled the discussion.

[Kiruri]

Porn is a fact of human existence; policy should be based around enthusiastic consent and respect for workers rather than "moral decency".

I take this stance as well.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

My respite is knowing plenty of women who are for transgender male to female (and also men) being part of the movement. As well as being in support of things like legalization and regulation of prostitution while watching porn or at least not wanting to see it banned.

If it wasn't for that, I'd be sticking one middle finger to the MRA's and the other to the feminist movement.

It wasn't like this on NSG before, the more reasonable feminists ruled the discussion.

I left, and they came in. I am sorry.

[Napkiraly]

My respite is knowing plenty of women who are for transgender male to female (and also men) being part of the movement. As well as being in support of things like legalization and regulation of prostitution while watching porn or at least not wanting to see it banned.

If it wasn't for that, I'd be sticking one middle finger to the MRA's and the other to the feminist movement.

It wasn't like this on NSG before, the more reasonable feminists ruled the discussion.

For over a thousand threads, the Moderate Feminists were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old NSG. Before the dark times. Before the Rad Fems.

[The Krogan]

It wasn't like this on NSG before, the more reasonable feminists ruled the discussion.

For over a thousand threads, the Moderate Feminists were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old NSG. Before the dark times. Before the Rad Fems.

[Ostroeuropa]

This round of feminism threads has been a big turnoff for me.

My respite is knowing plenty of women who are for transgender male to female (and also men) being part of the movement. As well as being in support of things like legalization and regulation of prostitution while watching porn or at least not wanting to see it banned.

If it wasn't for that, I'd be sticking one middle finger to the MRA's and the other to the feminist movement.

What's wrong with the MRM?

They also support legalization and regulation of prostitution. As well as porn.

They're social liberals by a huge margin. Libertarians and "Liberals" according to the surveys.

My respite is knowing plenty of women who are for transgender male to female (and also men) being part of the movement. As well as being in support of things like legalization and regulation of prostitution while watching porn or at least not wanting to see it banned.

If it wasn't for that, I'd be sticking one middle finger to the MRA's and the other to the feminist movement.

It wasn't like this on NSG before, the more reasonable feminists ruled the discussion.

I'm not convinced they were more reasonable. I think they just hid it better. The reason you're seeing them as being unreasonable now is that mens rights activists have pointed it out to you by bringing up mens issues for those feminists to go weird over. If those "Reasonable feminists" came back, we'd do the same to them, and I bet you they'd react the same. The difference isn't the feminists. It's the mens issues being brought up so you can see feminists for what they really are.
Their sexism is subtle, but it's almost always there, and when pointed out to them, they double-down and refuse to change.

The REALLY reasonable feminists?
They're MRAs now.
Or the type to align so much with the MRM as makes no substantial difference.

[Napkiraly]

My respite is knowing plenty of women who are for transgender male to female (and also men) being part of the movement. As well as being in support of things like legalization and regulation of prostitution while watching porn or at least not wanting to see it banned.

If it wasn't for that, I'd be sticking one middle finger to the MRA's and the other to the feminist movement.

What's wrong with the MRM?

My experience with them has been the equivalent with my experience with the Radical Feminists (especially SWERFs and TERFs).

I don't doubt that there are more reasonable ones, but their voice definitely isn't the loudest.

[United facist States of America]

An Interesting OFFICIAL document
That's not exactly the guy screaming the sun is about to explode

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/get ... /EN#title1

MOTION FOR A EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT RESOLUTION

on eliminating gender stereotypes in the EU

(2012/2116(INI))

O. whereas young women and men are most affected by pornography’s new cultural status; whereas the ‘mainstreaming of pornography’, i.e. the current cultural process whereby pornography is slipping into our everyday lives as an evermore universally accepted, often idealised, cultural element, manifests itself particularly clearly within youth culture: from teenage television and lifestyle magazines to music videos and commercials targeted at the young;

17. Calls on the EU and its Member States to take concrete action on its resolution of 16 September 1997 on discrimination against women in advertising, which called for a ban on all forms of pornography in the media and on the advertising of sex tourism(10);

18. Calls on the EU to conduct research into the links between child pornography and adult pornography and the impacts on girls, women, boys and men, as well as the relationship between pornography and sexual violence;

EU says pornography, ALL forms of pornography, hurts women.

That's the future, get used to it.

This does not ban pornography it bans pornography in media. Also if all forms of pornography hurt women how does Gay porn, Ancient papyri, Ancient Pottery, Cave Paintings and pornography not involving humans harm women.

[Benuty]

It wasn't like this on NSG before, the more reasonable feminists ruled the discussion.

I left, and they came in. I am sorry.

Yes with your absence the veil protecting the worlds of reasonable, and radical was torn apart in a furious spectacle.

[Benuty]

An Interesting OFFICIAL document
That's not exactly the guy screaming the sun is about to explode

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/get ... /EN#title1



EU says pornography, ALL forms of pornography, hurts women.

That's the future, get used to it.

This does not ban pornography it bans pornography in media. Also if all forms of pornography hurt women how does Gay porn, Ancient papyri, Ancient Pottery, Cave Paintings and pornography not involving humans harm women.

It seems they may be avoiding the whole question about gay porn. The only "answer" I got that it doesn't directly affect women which leads me to believe they assume it indirectly affects women. As for how it is possible I have no real idea.

[Napkiraly]

This does not ban pornography it bans pornography in media. Also if all forms of pornography hurt women how does Gay porn, Ancient papyri, Ancient Pottery, Cave Paintings and pornography not involving humans harm women.

It seems they may be avoiding the whole question about gay porn. The only "answer" I got that it doesn't directly affect women which leads me to believe they assume it indirectly affects women. As for how it is possible I have no real idea.

Gay sex is oppressive or something. I dunno, SWERFs and TERFs have already allied with the religious right thus far might as well go the full mile.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

It seems they may be avoiding the whole question about gay porn. The only "answer" I got that it doesn't directly affect women which leads me to believe they assume it indirectly affects women. As for how it is possible I have no real idea.

Gay sex is oppressive or something. I dunno, SWERFs and TERFs have already allied with the religious right thus far might as well go the full mile.

If you swap women for men in their Handy Dandy Guidebook To Alternation Of Oppression, they just turn into Joel Osteen.

[Benuty]

It seems they may be avoiding the whole question about gay porn. The only "answer" I got that it doesn't directly affect women which leads me to believe they assume it indirectly affects women. As for how it is possible I have no real idea.

Gay sex is oppressive or something. I dunno, SWERFs and TERFs have already allied with the religious right thus far might as well go the full mile.

It's pretty bad when your groups name sounds like surf & turf.

Of-course reading up on their ideology they clearly have no understanding of psychology let alone what sex is outside of their self sustaining, and ultimately destructive narrative.

[Serconas]

I´d like to see the document where the EU says they want to ban porn in their 28 member countries.

And as almost everyone on here I think a ban on porn is stupid/bad etc.
The last time I heard something about the porn industry from the mainstream media, there was something about regisseurs trying to make smut for women. But don´t quote me on that.