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Postby Rhyfelnydd » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:19 pm

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Chess just displays sexist bigotry in a different direction that's all.


I'm bigoted towards atheists, but never towards women.

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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:20 pm

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Rhyfelnydd wrote:Sexual attraction is blasphemy? Wait, what?


Chastity is the only thing natural.

Please don't tell me you actually think that a stork is what delivered you to your parents.
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Postby Threlizdun » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:23 pm

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Galloism wrote:Of course, his links involved actual science instead of a talk show host interviewing a Rabbi.


:shock:
You should know Galloism that you cannot be a TERF, since you're a male...
I'm sincerely doubting that was intentional misgendering on Galloism's part rather than either not knowing my preferred pronouns or making a slip up.

First link I posted linked to 10 serious scientific links.
No, you linked to one study over three decades old. The other was a blog. Literally every other link was broken. We've already pointed this out to you.

I would accept criticism if I would have linked just only to Oprah and similars.
But linking to science + to Oprah is BETTER than linking just only to science: it's a more holistic perspective.
Of course, which is why when I want to know about cancer research I always consult my local hairdresser, you know, because it's more balanced with all that pesky science in the way. You aren't even trying at this point are you?
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Postby Threlizdun » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:25 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
United States of White America wrote:
Chastity is the only thing natural.

Please don't tell me you actually think that a stork is what delivered you to your parents.

Clearly they were born out of immaculate conception like all good Christians. *nods*
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:32 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Please don't tell me you actually think that a stork is what delivered you to your parents.

Clearly they were born out of immaculate conception like all good Christians. *nods*

"Donna how could you be pregnant. we've never even taken off our chastity belts!!!!"
"Oh er...God put the child in me, Like baby Jesus"
"Praise the Lord Donna! We are truly blessed by our Lord and Saviour! By the way why have you gotten so many cryptic textual messages from Jebidiah?"
"Oh he's just been er helping me with some needs of mine"
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Postby Galloism » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:49 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:
:shock:
You should know Galloism that you cannot be a TERF, since you're a male...
I'm sincerely doubting that was intentional misgendering on Galloism's part rather than either not knowing my preferred pronouns or making a slip up.

First link I posted linked to 10 serious scientific links.
No, you linked to one study over three decades old. The other was a blog. Literally every other link was broken. We've already pointed this out to you.

I would accept criticism if I would have linked just only to Oprah and similars.
But linking to science + to Oprah is BETTER than linking just only to science: it's a more holistic perspective.
Of course, which is why when I want to know about cancer research I always consult my local hairdresser, you know, because it's more balanced with all that pesky science in the way. You aren't even trying at this point are you?

I did not know. Mea culpa.

I do apologize.
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Postby Ashkera » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:16 pm

No, NSG, you are the porn! You were the porn all along!

More seriously, when it comes to usage, it's like alcohol - many people can handle it; some become addicts.
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Postby Omega America II » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:22 pm

I just think it is immoral and disgusting. But, that's just my opinion.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:28 pm

United States of White America wrote:
Rhyfelnydd wrote:Sexual attraction is blasphemy? Wait, what?


Chastity is the only thing natural.

Actually, chastity is unnatural.
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Postby The Central Shadow Nation » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:28 pm

Omega America II wrote:I just think it is immoral and disgusting. But, that's just my opinion.

Your not alone.
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Postby Ashkera » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:29 pm

Omega America II wrote:I just think it is immoral and disgusting. But, that's just my opinion.

You sure you're not confusing the two?
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Postby Omega America II » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:31 pm

Ashkera wrote:
Omega America II wrote:I just think it is immoral and disgusting. But, that's just my opinion.

You sure you're not confusing the two?

No. Porn is disgusting and immoral, I think it should be banned.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:36 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Ashkera wrote:You sure you're not confusing the two?

No. Porn is disgusting and immoral, I think it should be banned.

It is neither.
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Postby Omega America II » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:39 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Omega America II wrote:No. Porn is disgusting and immoral, I think it should be banned.

It is neither.

How? You are having sex with a person without marrying them and recording it. It is immoral and disgusting. And don't even start to say it's healthy either.
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Postby Ashkera » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:40 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Ashkera wrote:You sure you're not confusing the two?

No. Porn is disgusting and immoral, I think it should be banned.


A lot of the complaints about homosexuality have jack to do with whether or not it's actually immoral, and everything to do with it triggering a disgust reflex. A lot of people can't tell the difference between something grossing them out and something being actually wrong.

Not to compare homosexuality directly to porn, it just makes the disgust->thinking it's morality connection more obvious.

Some people say it's about their religious text, but then they don't take that same text anywhere near as seriously on other banned items, so it's hard to believe them.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:41 pm

Omega America II wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:It is neither.

How? You are having sex with a person without marrying them and recording it. It is immoral and disgusting. And don't even start to say it's healthy either.

They won't let me marry all the women I want.
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Postby The Carlisle » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:42 pm

Omega America II wrote:I just think it is immoral and disgusting. But, that's just my opinion.

So its icky.

That is not a reason to ban things.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:43 pm

Omega America II wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:It is neither.

How? You are having sex with a person without marrying them and recording it. It is immoral and disgusting. And don't even start to say it's healthy either.

Who gives a shit whether you're married?

It isn't immoral, and it being disgusting is an opinion.

Sex is totally healthy, though you probably wouldn't know.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:44 pm

Omega America II wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:It is neither.

How? You are having sex with a person without marrying them and recording it. It is immoral and disgusting. And don't even start to say it's healthy either.


There is nothing immoral nor disgusting about sex, and sex is healthy actually.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:45 pm

Omega America II wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:It is neither.

How? You are having sex with a person without marrying them and recording it. It is immoral and disgusting.

You keep saying that. I don't think you know what's immoral or disgusting.

Literally nothing wrong with it.
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Postby Omega America II » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:45 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Omega America II wrote:How? You are having sex with a person without marrying them and recording it. It is immoral and disgusting. And don't even start to say it's healthy either.

Who gives a shit whether you're married?

It isn't immoral, and it being disgusting is an opinion.

Sex is totally healthy, though you probably wouldn't know.

Oh yeah, totally healthy, you think I bleive that bull that spews out of doctors mouths. The entire medical system is corrupted. And it is immoral. And you should care if your married or not.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:45 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Who gives a shit whether you're married?

It isn't immoral, and it being disgusting is an opinion.

Sex is totally healthy, though you probably wouldn't know.

Oh yeah, totally healthy, you think I bleive that bull that spews out of doctors mouths. The entire medical system is corrupted. And it is immoral. And you should care if your married or not.

The fuck? Source...?

And why, exactly, should I care?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:46 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Who gives a shit whether you're married?

It isn't immoral, and it being disgusting is an opinion.

Sex is totally healthy, though you probably wouldn't know.

Oh yeah, totally healthy, you think I bleive that bull that spews out of doctors mouths. The entire medical system is corrupted. And it is immoral. And you should care if your married or not.


:lol2:

So what you're saying is you reject what the actual people qualified to speak on the matter say?

Well at least now we know just to entirely disregard everything you say.
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Postby Omega America II » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:47 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Omega America II wrote:Oh yeah, totally healthy, you think I bleive that bull that spews out of doctors mouths. The entire medical system is corrupted. And it is immoral. And you should care if your married or not.


:lol2:

So what you're saying is you reject what the actual people qualified to speak on the matter say?

Well at least now we know just to entirely disregard everything you say.

Half of the doctors are corrupt and are paid by the government to spew out propaganda bull.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:47 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
:lol2:

So what you're saying is you reject what the actual people qualified to speak on the matter say?

Well at least now we know just to entirely disregard everything you say.

Half of the doctors are corrupt and are paid by the government to spew out propaganda bull.

Source.
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