Falklands or Malvinas? (And Anglo-Saxon Bias)

[Bezombia]

You people really need to look up what "Anglo-Saxon" actually means before you go around using it in sentences as if you do.

[Ecrotia]

And I presume you can provide evidence of this?

I don't need to its obvious

So lacking any actual evidence seriously makes your belief laughable

[Salandriagado]

And I presume you can provide evidence of this?

I don't need to its obvious

Which is why the organisation that led the push for independence thinks it was perfectly fine?

[Ecrotia]

You people really need to look up what "Anglo-Saxon" actually means before you go around using it in sentences as if you do.

The Angles and Saxons that inhabited England until the Viking Invasion and Norman Invasion

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

The Malvina's are Argentinian, no one should give a shit about what the inhabitants think, besides the UK has a habit of rigging elections.

That's a real stretch there.

[Vassenor]

And I presume you can provide evidence of this?

I don't need to its obvious

That's not how debating works. If you want to put forward a point, you must also put forward evidence to support your point.

So I ask you again: What evidence do you have that the referendum(s) was/were rigged, beyond the belief that simply not having the outcome you personally desired makes them rigged by default?

[Calimera II]

No, that's how you play. You go up against the retired imperialism world champion with your own new imperialism strategy, and then when you can't imperialism him you scream in rage and slap the board aside, then roll around on the floor crying until someone with no idea as to the background takes pity on you out of some misguided sense of justice.

Well, the fascist aggressor routine didn't work, even though the Argentinian stormtroopers initially did occupy the Falklands. Since all those Latin American macho soldiers surrendered to British Gurkhas in the end, this was not exactly a proud moment for Argentina. It did result in the eventual collapse of the junta, so that's a positive thing. Now that the WE TAKE WHAT WE WANT tactic was thorougly proven wrong, Argentinian populists and their sympathizers now try the incessant whining routine. It's going to be as fruitful as the more belligerent attempt to steal the Falklands, but at least less people are going to get killed.

Wat.... ...

[Abunya]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Civil_War_(2011)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Af ... %93present)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War
more like for 4 years, and im sure you will again.

And what land, precisely, did the UK take in those wars?

It imposed puppet governments in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan.

[Imperializt Russia]

And I presume you can provide evidence of this?

I don't need to its obvious

If it's so obvious it should be easy for you to provide evidence of this.

[Colonial Rhodesia]

I support Britain against Argentina but not against Rhodesia

[Risottia]

And I presume you can provide evidence of this?

I don't need to its obvious that I'm pulling it out of my arse

Fixed for truth.

[Carriebean7]

I'm serious. also, Africa needs to join into Stronk African union and Israel needs t change name to Palestinian Union. Turkey needs to give up it's peninsula on Europe and give t to Greece, and Bulgaria needs to annex Romania. plus E U needs military and NATO needs to dissolve.

Yep, total sarcasm

I call my theory the " Territorial Proximity and alteration of Boundaries.

i am not kidding, complete serious,s granted I may have crazy views to you but I think mine are very very very slightly shiny with a hint of bronze.

[Calimera II]

Rather, an attempt to restore order to rightful Argentine land.

Land that was only claimed by Argentina for less than a decade nearly two centuries ago.

Very, very, very wrong.

[G-Tech Corporation]

By native population, you mean the sheep right?

Imagine that you have a two floor house. You live in the two floors.

Then, suddenly, someone appears with a rifle and kick you out, because he thinks that he need more than you and is more strong and can do whatever he wants

You protest, go to the police, but the police says "ok, you two sit at discuss this".

The years pass by and you have childrens, the guy downstairs has kids and you die and the guy die and the life goes on.

So your grandsons has to give your first floor because was took it and now people live there?

Let's discuss a better example:

Your neighbors moves out, and leave their house with a for-sale sign out front. They were a nice younger couple who didn't always get along, but the duplex accommodated their whims. Over time you don't see anyone else move in, and one day your neighbor across the street asks if his kids can play in the dilapidated house's yard, since you're the person most effected by the decision. You graciously accede.

Over time you begin thinking about expanding your garden there, and actually knock down your wall to get the process underway. The city informs you this is not how one acquires property, and you grudgingly agree, putting up a makeshift fence again. At no time do you consider buying the house.

Then, one day, the young lady who was the previous owner moves back in. You are surprised, because you had kind of thought of the house as yours at that point. She has taken up with a new man, and in a few years small children run about merrily in the house. This makes you grumpy with the sound of their feet trampling what would have been your garden.

So one day you knock your own fence down and drive the children off, wielding a formidable hatchet. The landowner chases you off with a shotgun, and then you begin referring to his backyard as "My East Garden" and take him to court to get it from him.

What is the rational response to this court case?

[Salandriagado]

And what land, precisely, did the UK take in those wars?

It imposed puppet governments in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan.

Were we discussing the US, you might have some kind of a point. We aren't, however. All that the UK did in any of those cases was to honour international agreements and assist an ally.

[Godular]

And I presume you can provide evidence of this?

I don't need to its obvious

Yes you do or your words are dismissed just as easily.

[Ecrotia]

Well, the fascist aggressor routine didn't work, even though the Argentinian stormtroopers initially did occupy the Falklands. Since all those Latin American macho soldiers surrendered to British Gurkhas in the end, this was not exactly a proud moment for Argentina. It did result in the eventual collapse of the junta, so that's a positive thing. Now that the WE TAKE WHAT WE WANT tactic was thorougly proven wrong, Argentinian populists and their sympathizers now try the incessant whining routine. It's going to be as fruitful as the more belligerent attempt to steal the Falklands, but at least less people are going to get killed.

Wat.... ...

I agree. One, Gurkhas weren't there, it was the Parachute Regiment (Fuck Yeah!) and the Royal Marines (...meh)

[Risottia]

It imposed puppet governments in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan.

Pretty sure that no one is actually able to impose ANYTHING in Libya. Not even the Libyans.

[Abunya]

The Malvina's are Argentinian, no one should give a shit about what the inhabitants think, besides the UK has a habit of rigging elections.

Please provide proof of this

See: Scotland Vote Rigging

[Hurdegaryp]

Argentina's invasion in 1982 can be considered an attempt at imperialism.

Rather, an attempt to restore order to rightful Argentine land.

More like a gamble by the fascist junta that ruled Argentina at the time in order to distract the populace from the piss-poor economy of the nation. For some reason those dastardly Argentinian generals thought the USA would support their adventurism, while they also thought that the decadent United Kingdom, at that time led by a female prime minister and therefore suffering from inferior leadership according to the wildly sexist macho men of the Argentinian junta, would not have the strength and the determination to punish Argentina for its crime. They were wrong. They were dead wrong.

Argentina doesn't deserve the Falklands. Argentina deserves NOTHING

[Salandriagado]

Please provide proof of this

See: Scotland Vote Rigging

Provide evidence for such. You know, that evidence that both international observers and the SNP didn't notice.

[Vassenor]

Please provide proof of this

See: Scotland Vote Rigging

And what proof do you have that that occurred?

[Risottia]

Yep, total sarcasm

I call my theory the " Territorial Proximity and alteration of Boundaries.

i am not kidding, complete serious,s granted I may have crazy views to you but I think mine are very very very slightly shiny with a hint of bronze.

Do you want also a slice of lemon wrapped around a gold brick to go with it?

[Geilinor]

Please provide proof of this

See: Scotland Vote Rigging

I don't see any evidence.

[Colonial Rhodesia]

MALVINAS SON ARGENTINA , LA MUERTE DE BRETAÑA

NOT A INCH HOME RULE IS ROME RULE GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!