Falklands or Malvinas? (And Anglo-Saxon Bias)

[Aelex]

You mean she should have let the Argentineans take land from the Empire and for Irish nationalists to dictate Ireland's future (to the detriment of the interests of the empire)?

That's not acting like a strong leader.

There is a "Juste Milieu" between letting die of starvation a member of your highest political entity or giving to soldiers "free shots on civilians" and letting nationalists dictate Irland's futur.
Her handling of the situation was even worst than the 4ième's (République) handling of the situation in Algeria. Really worst.

[Dumb Ideologies]

No, 99%+ of Falklanders voted to remain in the status quo. They didn't vote against being transferred to Argentina, they voted against becoming independent of Britain.

Therefore, the entire premise of your OP is factually unsupported.

This is british empire/east anglia anglo-saxon bias at it's finest, blocking the islands from being independent and forcing them under Westminster.

Give me some of whatever you're smoking. Shit sounds potent.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Because the British Empire was just that ugly.

:'(

Can we not have a unicorn?

Only if you submit to Scotland and become one with the clans.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

No, 99%+ of Falklanders voted to remain in the status quo. They didn't vote against being transferred to Argentina, they voted against becoming independent of Britain.

Therefore, the entire premise of your OP is factually unsupported.

This is british empire/east anglia anglo-saxon bias at it's finest, blocking the islands from being independent and forcing them under Westminster.

How is that Anglo-Saxon bias? It's fact. The FIs voted to remain British. Self determination.

[Infected Mushroom]

The Empire was never formally dissolved, so technically, it still exists.

Also, the Falkland Islans, Gibraltar, and other islands remain under the control of the British empire.

''The Lion and the Unicorn'' is too long. The Lion has traditionally been the animal that represented the British Empire.

The Roman Empire was also never formally dissolved does this mean we should refer to Italy as Rome.

Their bloodline has been wiped out. The last Roman sovereign died over a thousand years ago...

[Benian Republic]

I've always thought it was

Lion = British Empire
Bear = Russian Empire
Eagle = the USA and Germany

France is supposed to be a rooster but its rarely represented by it.

Don't forget the Scottish Unicorn, Irish Clover and the Welsh Dragon for...never mind

The Irish clover is the only one of those that matters.

[Calimera II]

That's why this conflict is taking over 150 years to resolve.

The Argentine government's position is that the will of the Falklanders is irrelevant.

No

[Washington Resistance Army]

The Roman Empire was also never formally dissolved does this mean we should refer to Italy as Rome.

Their bloodline has been wiped out. The last Roman sovereign died over a thousand years ago...

More like 650 or so actually.

[Benian Republic]

Remember Thatcher?

The bitch who fucked up the entire british economy and made the poor even poorer by destroying the remain of healtcare england still had?
Who won't remember her as the horrible person she was? I mean, if you really wonder if she was "THAT" bad, just look to how people partyed in the street in Irland the day she died and that even in France, who yet had the chance to never subish the tyranny of her or one of her like, they were sales on Brasserie to celebrate her death.

No one likes the old betch.

[The Northumbrian Republic]

The Soviet Union didn't have a claim to the Baltics, Ukraine, Belarus, Central Asia, or the Caucasian countries.
Russia doesn't have a legitimate claim of Chechnya either.

It would seem, from your examples, that most of the world did indeed "move on with their lives" over those turns of events.
None of those claims were significantly challenged, except by some insurgency movements and limited diplomatic quarrel.

Until it collapsed, the Soviet Union's claim on the Baltics, Ukraine, Belarus, Central Asia and the Caucasus (pardon my ignorance, but isn't most of the Caucasus in Russia anyway?), and Russia's continued claim on Chechnya, have run largely unopposed.

I think this is extremely bigoted towards Chechens as this sounds like Ramzan Kadyrov ghost writed this.
Personally, I think your arguments would be well agreed in the

http://www.englisc-gateway.com/bbs/index

[Infected Mushroom]

You mean she should have let the Argentineans take land from the Empire and for Irish nationalists to dictate Ireland's future (to the detriment of the interests of the empire)?

That's not acting like a strong leader.

There is a "Juste Milieu" between letting die of starvation a member of your highest political entity or giving to soldiers "free shots on civilians" and letting nationalists dictate Irland's futur.
Her handling of the situation was even worst than the 4ième's (République) handling of the situation in Algeria. Really worst.

I thought her handling of foreign affairs in general, to be reasonable and in line with realpolitiks.

She knew first and foremost that Britain had to be feared and respected. As soon as that wasn't the case any more, they'll be no end to countries seperating from the Empire and other countries challenging the claims of the Lion.

[Kouralia]

This is british empire/east anglia anglo-saxon bias at it's finest, blocking the islands from being independent and forcing them under Westminster.

How is that Anglo-Saxon bias? It's fact. The FIs voted to remain British. Self determination.

Why am people forget the non-Anglo Brits? Like, can we not get some loving for the Normano-Asian, Afro-Celtic, Nordic-Caribbean Oppression-meisters?

[Infected Mushroom]

Their bloodline has been wiped out. The last Roman sovereign died over a thousand years ago...

More like 650 or so actually.

Okay.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Many of you may of remembered the Falklands referendum in 2013, where 99.2% of Falklanders Voted to say British and not be transferred to Argentinian control.
Recently the Argentinian government has been increasing its efforts to 'recover' the islands and that has sparked tensions.

Sources from old thread:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21750909
http://www.falklands.gov.fk/self-govern ... argentina/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ister.html

Personally, I think the Falklands needs to be a neutral, independent country and not subjected to Anglo-Saxon remnant empire bias.

So, what do you think? Tell us in this thread!

FFS, WHY?!? Why do we need yet ANOTHER Falklands thread?

BTW, as an American, I feel that the will of the people that live on the island should be respected. They want the Falklands to remain British, then they should remain British.

[Imperializt Russia]

No, 99%+ of Falklanders voted to remain in the status quo. They didn't vote against being transferred to Argentina, they voted against becoming independent of Britain.

Therefore, the entire premise of your OP is factually unsupported.

This is british empire/east anglia anglo-saxon bias at it's finest, blocking the islands from being independent and forcing them under Westminster.

...

All but three people who voted, voted to remain a British Protectorate. 99.2% of the island's eligible voting population voted.

The fuck are you even talking about?

No, 99%+ of Falklanders voted to remain in the status quo. They didn't vote against being transferred to Argentina, they voted against becoming independent of Britain.

Therefore, the entire premise of your OP is factually unsupported.

They can't become part of Argentina if they want the status quo.

Which ignores the fact that they weren't voting on whether or not to become part of Argentina, they were voting on whether or not to remain a British protectorate. The "not" in this instance leading to some form of independence.

Nothing to do with the Argies until they make it about them.

[Old Tyrannia]

No, 99%+ of Falklanders voted to remain in the status quo. They didn't vote against being transferred to Argentina, they voted against becoming independent of Britain.

Therefore, the entire premise of your OP is factually unsupported.

This is british empire/east anglia anglo-saxon bias at it's finest, blocking the islands from being independent and forcing them under Westminster.

Indeed. The bias of the islanders is clearly preventing them from seeing how things would magically be so much better if they were to form their own tiny country and lose all of the economic and defensive benefits of being a British Overseas Territory. Oh woe are they.

[Ifreann]

Because the British Empire was just that ugly.

:'(

Can we not have a unicorn?

You can put a plastic horn on your doggy if you can get him to sit still.

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Don't forget the Scottish Unicorn, Irish Clover and the Welsh Dragon for...never mind

The Irish clover is the only one of those that matters.

Not really, though.

[The Northumbrian Republic]

The bitch who fucked up the entire british economy and made the poor even poorer by destroying the remain of healtcare england still had?
Who won't remember her as the horrible person she was? I mean, if you really wonder if she was "THAT" bad, just look to how people partyed in the street in Irland the day she died and that even in France, who yet had the chance to never subish the tyranny of her or one of her like, they were sales on Brasserie to celebrate her death.

No one likes the old betch.

Not even she privatised the public transport system of the UK.
John Major did.

[Saint Kitten]

No, 99%+ of Falklanders voted to remain in the status quo. They didn't vote against being transferred to Argentina, they voted against becoming independent of Britain.

Therefore, the entire premise of your OP is factually unsupported.

This is british empire/east anglia anglo-saxon bias at it's finest, blocking the islands from being independent and forcing them under Westminster.

I have to wonder if you even looked at the polling results

[Aelex]

if a foreign nation can seize one of Britain's possessions with impunity, then Britain is no longer a nation to be feared.

And if that happens, you'll have a lot more problems.

Well, Britain's ain't a nation to be feared since it forfeited it's own independance to become willingly the U.S's puppet.
But I disgress and this is a very biaised view of the situation so let's get back to our point.

[Benian Republic]

No. Her handling of the situation was catastrophic. Not as bad as her handling of northern irland (for which she honestly should have been put on a war trial) but still showing off U.K's weakness to the whole world.

You mean she should have let the Argentineans take land from the Empire and for Irish nationalists to dictate Ireland's future (to the detriment of the interests of the empire)?

That's not acting like a strong leader.

The Irish nationalists care more about Ireland than thatcher did.

[Parhe]

No, 99%+ of Falklanders voted to remain in the status quo. They didn't vote against being transferred to Argentina, they voted against becoming independent of Britain.

Therefore, the entire premise of your OP is factually unsupported.

This is british empire/east anglia anglo-saxon bias at it's finest, blocking the islands from being independent and forcing them under Westminster.

Not everyone here is speaking from a "Anglo-Saxon bias," I'm just sick of Argentina's claim by principle. Argentina's claim is no different from Japan's modern day imperialistic claims against the Korean islands of Dokdo and me supporting Argentina in this would mean to me giving credence to the same type of "logic" used by other nations to oppose self-determination for the status quo.

[Imperializt Russia]

It would seem, from your examples, that most of the world did indeed "move on with their lives" over those turns of events.
None of those claims were significantly challenged, except by some insurgency movements and limited diplomatic quarrel.

Until it collapsed, the Soviet Union's claim on the Baltics, Ukraine, Belarus, Central Asia and the Caucasus (pardon my ignorance, but isn't most of the Caucasus in Russia anyway?), and Russia's continued claim on Chechnya, have run largely unopposed.

I think this is extremely bigoted towards Chechens as this sounds like Ramzan Kadyrov ghost writed this.
Personally, I think your arguments would be well agreed in the

http://www.englisc-gateway.com/bbs/index

Put down the crack pipe and come back in twenty minutes when you're a bit more calm.
I'm not certain even you know what you're talking about at this point. I certainly don't.

[Kouralia]

:'(

Can we not have a unicorn?

You can put a plastic horn on your doggy if you can get him to sit still.

You meanie: I'm still on holiday, else I would totally go and do that and post the picture here. :<

[Ecrotia]

The bitch who fucked up the entire british economy and made the poor even poorer by destroying the remain of healtcare england still had?
Who won't remember her as the horrible person she was? I mean, if you really wonder if she was "THAT" bad, just look to how people partyed in the street in Irland the day she died and that even in France, who yet had the chance to never subish the tyranny of her or one of her like, they were sales on Brasserie to celebrate her death.

No one likes the old betch.

Are you sure? Or is that some sort of bias