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by **Kelinfort** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:21 pm

Ardoki wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The state is not our parent. The state is not responsible for baby-sitting grown adults. Do you not realize how ridiculous you sound right now?

You have been sheltered all of your life, and now you are trying to shelter everyone else.

It's for their own good.

Ban sharp pointing objects.

by **Washington Resistance Army** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:22 pm

Ardoki wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The state is not our parent. The state is not responsible for baby-sitting grown adults. Do you not realize how ridiculous you sound right now?

You have been sheltered all of your life, and now you are trying to shelter everyone else.

It's for their own good.

I know many people who would violently oppose such a state.

by **Lockdownn** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:23 pm

Ardoki wrote:It's for their own good.

Nope. That would end up hurting free people more then you'd understand.

by **The Orson Empire** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:24 pm

Ardoki wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The state is not our parent. The state is not responsible for baby-sitting grown adults. Do you not realize how ridiculous you sound right now?

You have been sheltered all of your life, and now you are trying to shelter everyone else.

It's for their own good.

This is how authoritarian nanny states get created. The state passes extreme measures, claiming that it is for the citizen's "own good", when in reality, they just want power.

by **Lockdownn** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:26 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Ardoki wrote:It's for their own good.

This is how authoritarian nanny states get created. The state passes extreme measures, claiming that it is for the citizen's "own good", when in reality, they just want power.

How has this not happened already?

BTW, never "smoked" tried a puff of cigar once, hated it, never again.

by **The Orson Empire** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:29 pm

Lockdownn wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:This is how authoritarian nanny states get created. The state passes extreme measures, claiming that it is for the citizen's "own good", when in reality, they just want power.

How has this not happened already?

BTW, never "smoked" tried a puff of cigar once, hated it, never again.

I'm pretty sure it has happened, numerous times.

by **Lockdownn** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:31 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Lockdownn wrote:How has this not happened already?

BTW, never "smoked" tried a puff of cigar once, hated it, never again.

I'm pretty sure it has happened, numerous times.

I know, pretty much right now in some states.

Back on topic...I guess.

by **Kalmarium** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:32 pm

Ardoki wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The state is not our parent. The state is not responsible for baby-sitting grown adults. Do you not realize how ridiculous you sound right now?

You have been sheltered all of your life, and now you are trying to shelter everyone else.

It's for their own good.

If people really want to make bad choices for their lives despite the plethora of news and information floating around nowadays about pretty much everything, let them.

by **Stagnant Axon Terminal** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:39 pm

Ardoki wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The state is not our parent. The state is not responsible for baby-sitting grown adults. Do you not realize how ridiculous you sound right now?

You have been sheltered all of your life, and now you are trying to shelter everyone else.

It's for their own good.

Ban sports! They cause injury!
Ban medicine! Sometimes it has really bad side effects!
Ban pregnancy! Birth is very dangerous and sometimes you end up with kids who think nanny states are a good thing!

by **Lockdownn** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:42 pm

Ban everything but fucking puffy rooms. /intelligence

by **Saiwania** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:49 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Marijuana use increases risk of lung cancer. Possibly even more than cigarette smoking.

Hmph, and US liberals in general want it legalized. :roll:

Good to know that they can't have their weed without downsides.

by **Lockdownn** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:51 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Marijuana use increases risk of lung cancer. Possibly even more than cigarette smoking.

Hmph, and US liberals in general want it legalized.

If people want to smoke shit then let them.

by **Stagnant Axon Terminal** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:52 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Marijuana use increases risk of lung cancer. Possibly even more than cigarette smoking.

Hmph, and US liberals in general want it legalized. Good to know that they can't have their weed without downsides.

oh my god you haven't stopped whining yet

by **Kalmarium** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:52 pm

Lockdownn wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Hmph, and US liberals in general want it legalized.

If people want to smoke shit then let them.

It's not like he said they shouldn't.

by **Prussia-Steinbach** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:07 pm

Ardoki wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The state is not our parent. The state is not responsible for baby-sitting grown adults. Do you not realize how ridiculous you sound right now?

You have been sheltered all of your life, and now you are trying to shelter everyone else.

It's for their own good.

Stop parroting your parents.

by **Prussia-Steinbach** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:08 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ardoki wrote:It's for their own good.

I know many people who would violently oppose such a state.

Same.

by **Saiwania** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:08 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:oh my god you haven't stopped whining yet

If anything, I see more smokers whine about how all their smoking spaces are gradually being taken away from them than I see non-smokers complain about second hand smoke, and to their credit- they're right in that this trend has happened for a while but it isn't without reason. More people nowadays simply reject tobacco products and its good riddance. Even among smokers regular cigarettes are on the way out because with electronic cigarettes they can get their nicotine without the tar.

by **White Chrobatia** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:09 pm

Personally, I started smoking at the beginning of last September. I don't particularly enjoy it, but I don't plan to quit until I graduate.

by **Wanderjar** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:10 pm

Guilty as charged. Cigarettes. My preferred is Marlboro Black Menthols. I started last summer, at 23. I'm planning to quit soon, but damn it's hard.

by **Liberty and Linguistics** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:11 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Bullshit. You don't get to tell me what makes me happy.

Second hand smoke! You put others in danger! The traces on your clothes and in your breath can kill (especially young children)!

It is a public health and safety issue.

Son, that post is a second hand joke.

by **White Chrobatia** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:12 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:oh my god you haven't stopped whining yet

If anything, I see more smokers whine about how all their smoking spaces are gradually being taken away from them than I see non-smokers complain about second hand smoke, and to their credit- they're right in that this trend has happened for a while but it isn't without reason. More people nowadays simply reject tobacco products and its good riddance. Even among smokers regular cigarettes are on the way out because with electronic cigarettes they can get their nicotine without the tar.

To be honest, I don't find E-Cigs as attractive/effective, even if its objectively the same. Maybe it's something akin to real books/E-Readers.

by **Liberty and Linguistics** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:12 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Marijuana use increases risk of lung cancer. Possibly even more than cigarette smoking.

Hmph, and US liberals in general want it legalized. Good to know that they can't have their weed without downsides.

Meh. If people, myself included, know the risks of marijuana and smoke it anyways, then so be it. Why the fuck should you care if people wanna hurt their lungs by turning on some Pink Floyd and lighting up?

To quote a wiser man: "smoke em if you got em."

by **White Chrobatia** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:13 pm

Wanderjar wrote:Guilty as charged. Cigarettes. My preferred is Marlboro Black Menthols. I started last summer, at 23. I'm planning to quit soon, but damn it's hard.

Where I'm from you can't buy those beautiful death sticks, so when someone imports them from America it's a real treat to bum one or two off of them.

by **Wanderjar** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:15 pm

White Chrobatia wrote:
Wanderjar wrote:Guilty as charged. Cigarettes. My preferred is Marlboro Black Menthols. I started last summer, at 23. I'm planning to quit soon, but damn it's hard.

Where I'm from you can't buy those beautiful death sticks, so when someone imports them from America it's a real treat to bum one or two off of them.

Would you mind me asking where you live? I've noticed in the UK when I lived there that people would kill for American Virginia or Kentucky tobacco rather than the Dutch or West African crap they mostly get lol

by **Liberty and Linguistics** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:16 pm

Wanderjar wrote:
White Chrobatia wrote:Where I'm from you can't buy those beautiful death sticks, so when someone imports them from America it's a real treat to bum one or two off of them.

Would you mind me asking where you live? I've noticed in the UK when I lived there that people would kill for American Virginia or Kentucky tobacco rather than
the Dutch or West African crap they mostly get lol

Croatia, methinks.

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