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Do you smoke any form of tobacco?

Yes
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No
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:24 pm

Terra Sector Union wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:lol no

Alright. I guess we should be spending time banning a silly rebel flag instead of a pseudo-pleasure device we call cigarettes.

What the cum guzzling fuck is the point you are trying to make
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Postby Trollgaard » Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:25 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:I now only occasionally smoke my pipe or a good cigar. Most of the time when I smoke anymore, I use a e-cigarette and nicotine-less liquid.


e cigarettes...bah, can't stand em!

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Postby The Democratic Nation of Unovia » Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:26 pm

I don't smoke nor drink, though I am of age. I don't like the idea of either....personal viewpoint.
I respect more the cigar smokers and the responsible drinkers.
I think the main reason I don't drink or smoke is because I have disabilities (physical nature) and it is hard enough getting people to help me out when they are sober, never mind drunk or drinking.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:27 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:I now only occasionally smoke my pipe or a good cigar. Most of the time when I smoke anymore, I use a e-cigarette and nicotine-less liquid.

I tried that e-cigarette shit on 3 separate occassions. The first two times were okay, but I broke the things. The most recent time sucked. It's the "newer" "improved" type of vaporizor and it sucked. It kept leaking all of that shitty, terrible oil all over my hands and I cannot STAND oily things on my hands.

Eugh, that sounds decidedly unpleasant.

I had to replace mine once when the vaporizer burnt out (past the warranty date...of course), but it's served me well otherwise.
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Postby Kisinger » Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:27 pm

Terra Sector Union wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:lol no

Alright. I guess we should be spending time banning a silly rebel flag instead of a pseudo-pleasure device we call cigarettes.

Would take the flag crap to the flag thread please? Thank you!
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:27 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:I now only occasionally smoke my pipe or a good cigar. Most of the time when I smoke anymore, I use a e-cigarette and nicotine-less liquid.


E-juice tastes like burnt oil to me.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:29 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:I tried that e-cigarette shit on 3 separate occassions. The first two times were okay, but I broke the things. The most recent time sucked. It's the "newer" "improved" type of vaporizor and it sucked. It kept leaking all of that shitty, terrible oil all over my hands and I cannot STAND oily things on my hands.

Eugh, that sounds decidedly unpleasant.

I had to replace mine once when the vaporizer burnt out (past the warranty date...of course), but it's served me well otherwise.

I have tried to get like 6 different veteran to show me how to not get it all leaky, but for some reason, they say I'm doing it all right, i just can't make the thing not oil me. My only other option was to get one of those drip tanks, but those are $$$$$
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Postby Ardoki » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:10 pm

I don''t smoke.

However I think smoking should be banned.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:18 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:It's disgusting. What kind of joy do you get from filling your lungs with that shit?

I like the taste. It looks cool. It makes me feel good. It makes you look comfortable/like you belong anywhere. And it's the plant that America was built on.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:22 pm

Cannabis Islands wrote:I cannot understand why anyone would like menthol cigarettes. They taste like your smoking a mint. I like the taste of tobacco. I smoke atleast two cigars nearly every day.

Agreed. It's like smoking a tic tac dipped in anti-freeze.
The Orson Empire wrote:On top of that, it harms other people via second-hand smoke.

I don't smoke around people who don't want to be smoked around.
Terra Sector Union wrote:Smoking should be BANNED! If we're gonna ban the guns, the cigs have to go first.

How about neither?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:22 pm

Ardoki wrote:I think smoking should be banned.

Why do you want to create more criminals who just want to enjoy themselves?
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Postby Ardoki » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:23 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:It's disgusting. What kind of joy do you get from filling your lungs with that shit?

I like the taste. It looks cool. It makes me feel good. It makes you look comfortable/like you belong anywhere. And it's the plant that America was built on.

You do know slaves picked that plant.

So that is technically an argument against smoking.
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Postby Ardoki » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:24 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I think smoking should be banned.

Why do you want to create more criminals who just want to enjoy themselves?

Not only are they hurting themselves, they are hurting society by attacking the public healthcare system. The government should either force them to stop smoking, or make them forfeit their rights to public healthcare as they are purposely damaging their health and bringing down the system.
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Postby Page » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:25 pm

I'm a vaper and occasional hookah smoker.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:28 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I like the taste. It looks cool. It makes me feel good. It makes you look comfortable/like you belong anywhere. And it's the plant that America was built on.

You do know slaves picked that plant.

So that is technically an argument against smoking.

It was a good argument... in 1850.
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Postby Page » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:28 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Why do you want to create more criminals who just want to enjoy themselves?

Not only are they hurting themselves, they are hurting society by attacking the public healthcare system. The government should either force them to stop smoking, or make them forfeit their rights to public healthcare as they are purposely damaging their health and bringing down the system.


I bet this is coming from someone who never eats fast food and always wears sunscreen when going outside, right?! Also I'm sure you abstain from alcohol completely, as well as diabetes inducing soda and carcinogenic diet soda.

I know you must be all those things, otherwise you'd be a hypocrite.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:28 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I like the taste. It looks cool. It makes me feel good. It makes you look comfortable/like you belong anywhere. And it's the plant that America was built on.

You do know slaves picked that plant.

So that is technically an argument against smoking.

...no? Slaves built many US government buildings, including the White House, therefore the government should not exist.

Your logic is nonexistent.
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Postby Ardoki » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:32 pm

Page wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Not only are they hurting themselves, they are hurting society by attacking the public healthcare system. The government should either force them to stop smoking, or make them forfeit their rights to public healthcare as they are purposely damaging their health and bringing down the system.


I bet this is coming from someone who never eats fast food and always wears sunscreen when going outside, right?! Also I'm sure you abstain from alcohol completely, as well as diabetes inducing soda and carcinogenic diet soda.

I know you must be all those things, otherwise you'd be a hypocrite.

I never eat American fastfood. The closest I come is occasionally going to a Chinese or Indian restaurant. I've tried alcohol once, but I didn't see the big deal about it (it had no effect on me and I didn't like the alcohol taste) and don't intend to drink it again. I'm not allowed soda, however I am allowed to mix healthy orange juice and lemonade (yes, I'm not allowed sugary drinks and chemicals as it is bad for my ADHD) sometimes.

However I rarely go outside, and when I do I don't often put sunscreen on as I'm never outside for long.
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Postby Page » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:38 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Page wrote:
I bet this is coming from someone who never eats fast food and always wears sunscreen when going outside, right?! Also I'm sure you abstain from alcohol completely, as well as diabetes inducing soda and carcinogenic diet soda.

I know you must be all those things, otherwise you'd be a hypocrite.

I never eat American fastfood. The closest I come is occasionally going to a Chinese or Indian restaurant. I've tried alcohol once, but I didn't see the big deal about it (it had no effect on me and I didn't like the alcohol taste) and don't intend to drink it again. I'm not allowed soda, however I am allowed to mix healthy orange juice and lemonade (yes, I'm not allowed sugary drinks and chemicals as it is bad for my ADHD) sometimes.

However I rarely go outside, and when I do I don't often put sunscreen on as I'm never outside for long.


As a general rule I don't approve of ageism but someone who is so young their caregivers still have say over whether they can have soda or not, does not get to make statements about what I as a grown adult can light on fire on draw into my lungs.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:40 pm

Page wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I never eat American fastfood. The closest I come is occasionally going to a Chinese or Indian restaurant. I've tried alcohol once, but I didn't see the big deal about it (it had no effect on me and I didn't like the alcohol taste) and don't intend to drink it again. I'm not allowed soda, however I am allowed to mix healthy orange juice and lemonade (yes, I'm not allowed sugary drinks and chemicals as it is bad for my ADHD) sometimes.

However I rarely go outside, and when I do I don't often put sunscreen on as I'm never outside for long.


As a general rule I don't approve of ageism but someone who is so young their caregivers still have say over whether they can have soda or not, does not get to make statements about what I as a grown adult can light on fire on draw into my lungs.

Basically.
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Postby Ardoki » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:42 pm

Page wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I never eat American fastfood. The closest I come is occasionally going to a Chinese or Indian restaurant. I've tried alcohol once, but I didn't see the big deal about it (it had no effect on me and I didn't like the alcohol taste) and don't intend to drink it again. I'm not allowed soda, however I am allowed to mix healthy orange juice and lemonade (yes, I'm not allowed sugary drinks and chemicals as it is bad for my ADHD) sometimes.

However I rarely go outside, and when I do I don't often put sunscreen on as I'm never outside for long.


As a general rule I don't approve of ageism but someone who is so young their caregivers still have say over whether they can have soda or not, does not get to make statements about what I as a grown adult can light on fire on draw into my lungs.

I just turned 18, and I still live at home. I was not allowed sugary drinks when I was a young child, so I have no desire to have them now or ever. Sugar/chemical-free lemonade mixed with organic orange juice tastes nicer than Fanta, so why would I want to have sugary soft drinks?

We can't let you damage your own health on purpose. If you do, you should be denied access to public healthcare.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:43 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Page wrote:
As a general rule I don't approve of ageism but someone who is so young their caregivers still have say over whether they can have soda or not, does not get to make statements about what I as a grown adult can light on fire on draw into my lungs.

I just turned 18, and I still live at home. I was not allowed sugary drinks when I was a young child, so I have no desire to have them now or ever. Sugar/chemical-free lemonade mixed with organic orange juice tastes nicer than Fanta, so why would I want to have sugary soft drinks?

We can't let you damage your own health on purpose. If you do, you should be denied access to public healthcare.


It's their body, they should be able to do whatever the fuck they want with it.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:43 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Page wrote:
As a general rule I don't approve of ageism but someone who is so young their caregivers still have say over whether they can have soda or not, does not get to make statements about what I as a grown adult can light on fire on draw into my lungs.

I just turned 18, and I still live at home. I was not allowed sugary drinks when I was a young child, so I have no desire to have them now or ever. Sugar/chemical-free lemonade mixed with organic orange juice tastes nicer than Fanta, so why would I want to have sugary soft drinks?

We can't let you damage your own health on purpose. If you do, you should be denied access to public healthcare.

Or you could saunter back to the land of denial that you came from and realize that based on your logic, people CHOOSE to get in cars, therefore if they get in accidents they should be left to die on the street.
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Postby Ardoki » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:44 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I just turned 18, and I still live at home. I was not allowed sugary drinks when I was a young child, so I have no desire to have them now or ever. Sugar/chemical-free lemonade mixed with organic orange juice tastes nicer than Fanta, so why would I want to have sugary soft drinks?

We can't let you damage your own health on purpose. If you do, you should be denied access to public healthcare.


It's their body, they should be able to do whatever the fuck they want with it.

We don't let people sell themselves as slaves.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:45 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It's their body, they should be able to do whatever the fuck they want with it.

We don't let people sell themselves as slaves.

You can't willingly be a slave.
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My sworn enemy is the Toyota 4Runner
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Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.

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