White Pride: A good thing?

[CANZUK Union (Ancient)]

So you would dare? That would be fun to watch

Find me a Mexican to fight. The Blood God demands tribute.

calling someone a nazi and ignoring the point made, that's hyperbole buddy.

You have to have a point, first of all.

And you use the terms degenerate, which is a term Nazis use, so I assumed you were a Nazi.

Not necessarily, I've been called a degenerate by a Communist before but your only insulting him by calling him a nazi because you have ran out of arguments

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Find me a Mexican to fight. The Blood God demands tribute.

You have to have a point, first of all.

And you use the terms degenerate, which is a term Nazis use, so I assumed you were a Nazi.

Not necessarily, I've been called a degenerate by a Communist before but your only insulting him by calling him a nazi because you have ran out of arguments

Well, I think that using the term "degenerate", whatever the political or cultural reasons, ended the argument before Godwin kicked in. It's nothing more than a polysyllabic way to call something icky.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Find me a Mexican to fight. The Blood God demands tribute.

You have to have a point, first of all.

And you use the terms degenerate, which is a term Nazis use, so I assumed you were a Nazi.

Not necessarily, I've been called a degenerate by a Communist before but your only insulting him by calling him a nazi because you have ran out of arguments

What can I say, it's not so much I'm out of arguments as it is that people who use the word "degenerate" aren't worth debating with in the first place. Especially since other people have refuted his point better than I can.

[CANZUK Union (Ancient)]

I'm proud of being a westerner. I have pride in western civilization.
But the skin color thing? Meh.

You're proud of something you did not create or even help build, have essentially no influence on, and had no choice whether to be raised in?

Say if you had a friend or a relative who did something good like raise loads of money for a charity, you'd be proud of them then wouldn't you? But in that case you didn't do anything to help them but you are still proud of them

The same applies for you nation, race, culture etc, I'm proud to be British because even though people like to slander the British empire, I still recognise that it brought democracy, justice, medicine, education, wealth and infrastructure to the world, compare Hong Kong to the rest of china, they enjoy a much better lifestyle due to being under our rule, areas of the world such as Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA, India, South Africa and Zimbabwe (the last two were strong and prosperous until the ANC took charge and turned them into the crime ridden corrupt basket cases they are now where hundreds of Afrikaners are being murdered). I also recognize that my country has fought tyrants such as Napoleon, the central powers, the axis powers, the ussr etc

[Ascended Rome]

You're proud of something you did not create or even help build, have essentially no influence on, and had no choice whether to be raised in?

Say if you had a friend or a relative who did something good like raise loads of money for a charity, you'd be proud of them then wouldn't you? But in that case you didn't do anything to help them but you are still proud of them

The same applies for you nation, race, culture etc, I'm proud to be British because even though people like to slander the British empire, I still recognise that it brought democracy, justice, medicine, education, wealth and infrastructure to the world, compare Hong Kong to the rest of china, they enjoy a much better lifestyle due to being under our rule, areas of the world such as Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA, India, South Africa and Zimbabwe (the last two were strong and prosperous until the ANC took charge and turned them into the crime ridden corrupt basket cases they are now where hundreds of Afrikaners are being murdered). I also recognize that my country has fought tyrants such as Napoleon, the central powers, the axis powers, the ussr etc

Your people modernized it, but were actually the ones who fucked it up when Rhodesia converted to Zimbabwe

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Say if you had a friend or a relative who did something good like raise loads of money for a charity, you'd be proud of them then wouldn't you? But in that case you didn't do anything to help them but you are still proud of them

Not the same kind of pride.

The same applies for you nation, race, culture etc...

No, it doesn't. Not even barely comparable.

I'm proud to be British because even though people like to slander the British empire, I still recognise that it brought democracy, justice, medicine, education, wealth and infrastructure to the world, compare Hong Kong to the rest of china, they enjoy a much better lifestyle due to being under our rule, areas of the world such as Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA, India, South Africa and Zimbabwe (the last two were strong and prosperous until the ANC took charge and turned them into the crime ridden corrupt basket cases they are now where hundreds of Afrikaners are being murdered). I also recognize that my country has fought tyrants such as Napoleon, the central powers, the axis powers, the ussr etc

The British Empire also brought genocide, disease, and slavery to a majority of the world.

[Ascended Rome]

Say if you had a friend or a relative who did something good like raise loads of money for a charity, you'd be proud of them then wouldn't you? But in that case you didn't do anything to help them but you are still proud of them

Not the same kind of pride.

The same applies for you nation, race, culture etc...

No, it doesn't. Not even barely comparable.

I'm proud to be British because even though people like to slander the British empire, I still recognise that it brought democracy, justice, medicine, education, wealth and infrastructure to the world, compare Hong Kong to the rest of china, they enjoy a much better lifestyle due to being under our rule, areas of the world such as Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA, India, South Africa and Zimbabwe (the last two were strong and prosperous until the ANC took charge and turned them into the crime ridden corrupt basket cases they are now where hundreds of Afrikaners are being murdered). I also recognize that my country has fought tyrants such as Napoleon, the central powers, the axis powers, the ussr etc

The British Empire also brought genocide, disease, and slavery to a majority of the world.

Yes, it is the same kind of pride.

Yes, it is comparable. Pride is Pride. if you're feeling something different, then it's not pride, it's something different.

The Japanese also brought genocide to the Chinese and Korean people, the West doesn't have a monopoly on hating certain other groups.
AIDs is an African disease that is presently slowly killing much of the world; MERS is a disease that is presently spreading in Asia; 2000 years ago, the first major European plague was spread by Persians fighting with the Romans.
Slavery has existed throughout human history in a variety of forms. The (Black) Egyptians enslaved the Jews, the (Black) African tribes enslaved their own people, in India the underclass was treated as cheap labor that worked for their entire lives, in China the underclasses were forced to build the Great Wall for their Emperor.

The West does not have a monopoly on doing shitty things to other people, so stop acting like it.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Yes, it is the same kind of pride.

Yes, it is comparable. Pride is Pride. if you're feeling something different, then it's not pride, it's something different.

Being proud of your kid for winning a contest doesn't look to genocide, racism, xenophobia...

The Japanese also brought genocide to the Chinese and Korean people, the West doesn't have a monopoly on hating certain other groups.
AIDs is an African disease that is presently slowly killing much of the world; MERS is a disease that is presently spreading in Asia; 2000 years ago, the first major European plague was spread by Persians fighting with the Romans.
Slavery has existed throughout human history in a variety of forms. The (Black) Egyptians enslaved the Jews, the (Black) African tribes enslaved their own people, in India the underclass was treated as cheap labor that worked for their entire lives, in China the underclasses were forced to build the Great Wall for their Emperor.

The West does not have a monopoly on doing shitty things to other people, so stop acting like it.

I never said it did.

[Ascended Rome]

Yes, it is the same kind of pride.

Yes, it is comparable. Pride is Pride. if you're feeling something different, then it's not pride, it's something different.

Being proud of your kid for winning a contest doesn't look to genocide, racism, xenophobia...

The Japanese also brought genocide to the Chinese and Korean people, the West doesn't have a monopoly on hating certain other groups.
AIDs is an African disease that is presently slowly killing much of the world; MERS is a disease that is presently spreading in Asia; 2000 years ago, the first major European plague was spread by Persians fighting with the Romans.
Slavery has existed throughout human history in a variety of forms. The (Black) Egyptians enslaved the Jews, the (Black) African tribes enslaved their own people, in India the underclass was treated as cheap labor that worked for their entire lives, in China the underclasses were forced to build the Great Wall for their Emperor.

The West does not have a monopoly on doing shitty things to other people, so stop acting like it.

I never said it did.

You can be proud of being German without being proud of Hitler, and anyone who is proud of being German, unless they're a Neo-Nazi, is exactly that.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

You can be proud of being German without being proud of Hitler, and anyone who is proud of being German, unless they're a Neo-Nazi, is exactly that.

...yeah? Are you even trying to address the things I say?

National pride still very frequently leads to xenophobia, racism, and varying degrees of violence.

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

There is nothing to be proud of, really. Your skin colour is an accident of birth. You could have easily been born from parents who weren't white, so why go around telling others you're better than them because of something you have no control over?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

There is nothing to be proud of, really. Your skin colour is an accident of birth. You could have easily been born from parents who weren't white, so why go around telling others you're better than them because of something you have no control over?

Not to mention it's something that biologically doesn't even exist.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Being proud of your kid for winning a contest doesn't look to genocide, racism, xenophobia...

I never said it did.

You can be proud of being German without being proud of Hitler, and anyone who is proud of being German, unless they're a Neo-Nazi, is exactly that.

Ironically, it was a German who said they didn't understand why they should be proud of being German.

[Sino nations]

White Pride Is Just Being Proud Of Being White.No one Shouts at gay pride at such huge numbers but if its white pride then its huge masses of cloured people coming at europe and north america and australia etc. Saying white pride is racist,IS RACIST! Some Colured People Already wish death to white people! just search for videos in topic at youtube and you will know.

[Colonial Rhodesia]

as a White Rhodesian born and raised in the united states I see no problem with benevolent white pride in fact as far as I am concerned there is nothing wrong with being proud of who you are it just when you start attacking people of a different race simply because of their skin that such can be taken offense at on the other hand Europeans have given the world all that we hold dear yet the leftist media with all its communist propaganda likes to demonize whites just because one lunatic decided to go nuts on a house of worship which was predominately African American by origin.

in Africa we brought Christianity, Commerce, Civilization to dark continent colonies such as Kenya,Uganda,Rhodesia,South Africa all became centers of peace and prosperity because of the white man's hard work that allowed a whole people to improve life as time progressed during the two great world wars Blacks and White joined hands to defeat the evils of Fascism in defense of the Empire unfortunately we were never reward and therefore our contributions were very much overlooked so in 1965 we threw in the towel and did what our Kith and Kin failed to do and that was to fight Communism and Black Nationalists like Mugabe and his PF scum.


I am proud of who I am for no one except God almighty can take that away from me because I am proud to be a Rhodesian of British American origin.

God Save Rhodesia!!!!

[Camelza]

A "good" thing? My personal opinion? No, I don't consider "good" being proud of something as trivial as skin tone, I only consider logical being proud of one's own deeds and actions.
But sure, feel free to feel proud with whatever feeds your ego, just don't make a fuss about it.

[Ifreann]

This thread again? Ugh.

[Kelinfort]

No

Racial pride is stupid.

[Ifreann]

No

Racial pride is stupid.

There's several posts in this thread explaining how things like black pride or gay pride aren't the same as white pride.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

No

Racial pride is stupid.

There's several posts in this thread explaining how things like black pride or gay pride aren't the same as white pride.

Oh, black pride is not the same as white pride, you're entirely correct.

However, that doesn't excuse all the crimes committed in the name of black pride, nor does the difference between black and white pride make black pride inherently better. Racial pride encourages a slew of horrific things. This is even true in black pride. Numerous Black Panthers, those tied with Malcom X, and whatnot have literally advocated for the death of whites. Furthermore, South African Afrikaner farmers are being murdered left and right in something considered to be a genocide by some international observers. These Afrikaners are killed in the name of racial pride. The same can be said for Zimbabwe, where black pride was the justification for the deportation and oppression of the few whites remaining in Zimbabwe.

White pride, too, as you know, has also caused some horrific and abhorrent things to transpire. But, then again, so has black pride. It really goes to show that racial pride of any kind inevitably leads to an inflated sense of supremacism and envy which can go awry.

[L Ron Cupboard]

So New Hellenica is Svalana, and Bulgaria-Greece? They have rather a monomaniacal obsession with skin colour.

[United States Kingdom]

I take pride in my community. I take pride in my country. I take great pride in my family and friends. However, race is rather different. Having white skin isn't a community, group, or city, or anything of the sort. Rather, it's a skin color shared by over a billion people. Pride in any skin color is futile, and often leads to racial supremacism.

For instance, if a black man were to say "I have black pride", I'd mock his beliefs. If an Asian man said "yellow power", I'd mock him as well. When a white man says "white pride worldwide", I tend to do the same.

[Kelinfort]

No

Racial pride is stupid.

There's several posts in this thread explaining how things like black pride or gay pride aren't the same as white pride.

There's a difference between being proud of your culture and shared experiences in the face of oppression and racial pride. Racial pride celebrates superiority and separation which is why I don't really see mainstream Black pride as racial pride, but more of a cultural movement that recognises accomplishments by blacks. White pride, I suppose, could do that, but when it's almost universal in culture, it makes no sense and serves to only further the notion of superiority.

Same with gay pride.

[Laerod]

White Pride Is Just Being Proud Of Being White...

No, because read the thread.

as a White Rhodesian born and raised in the united states I see no problem with benevolent white pride ...

Nothing quite like someone pining after a white supremacist state suggesting that white pride has nothing to do with racism.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

So New Hellenica is Svalana, and Bulgaria-Greece? They have rather a monomaniacal obsession with skin colour.

Reminds me of Uncle Ruckus, if any of you are familiar.