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White Pride: Good or Bad

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:16 am

Latzemia wrote:Why so many of you think white pride is bad? No, not ridiculous/silly, but bad? Can you give one reason?
Is it racist? No, racist is white supermacy not white pride. White pride may only be silly, but not bad. The SAME is for other prides (black, asian etc.).


In the US white pride is closely associated with white supremacy. In the US at least I a unaware of a single group that is pro white pride that is not also white supremacist.

Other pride groups are like the LGBT groups, they use the term pride, but in truth they mean there is no reason to feel shame.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:17 am

Latzemia wrote:Why so many of you think white pride is bad? No, not ridiculous/silly, but bad? Can you give one reason?
Is it racist? No, racist is white supermacy not white pride. White pride may only be silly, but not bad. The SAME is for other prides (black, asian etc.).


Black Pride organizations were created as a response to generations of oppression and marginalization, and were intended to instill a sense of pride that had been nearly eliminated by centuries of ill treatment at the hands of whites.

White Pride organizations were created as a backlash against the success of Black Pride organizations and other, similar groups, and were meant to encourage continued white dominance over other races.

That's why they're bad: They were set up to discourage the concept of racial equality.

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Postby Latzemia » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:19 am

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Latzemia wrote:Why so many of you think white pride is bad? No, not ridiculous/silly, but bad? Can you give one reason?

How do you know so many people think White Pride is bad? You clearly haven't read the thread, so that's not why.

Well, the poll tells everything.

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Postby United Individuals of Us » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:19 am

Being proud often leads to being prejudiced.

If you can be proud of something without feeling the need to force others to be proud of it with you, then being proud can be a good thing. When you start having negative feelings towards others who do not join you in your pride of whatever it is you are being proud of, especially if it causes you to look for ways to impose your will upon others, then pride is moving into the realm of prejudice, intolerance, and eventually hate.

Personally, I am peach color, not white. I've only seen a few pasty white albinos in my lifetime who can claim being a white race. I live in the U.S.A. where by the year 2050 the majority race will be interracial. Then again, a majority of so called "white people" in the U.S.A. are a mix of races to begin with with a heavy influence of Native American race in the mix.

I'm not proud nor am I ashamed of my skin color. It is what it is. I didn't buy it, earn it, choose it, etc. It's not an accomplishment or a defeat. It's the color of skin I was born with.

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Postby Laerod » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:20 am

Latzemia wrote:
Laerod wrote:How do you know so many people think White Pride is bad? You clearly haven't read the thread, so that's not why.

Well, the poll tells everything.

Oh, that thing? Why read that instead of the thread? But yeah, yummers gave a proper response.

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Postby New Skaaneland » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:26 am

The poll doesn't tell us anything.
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:24 pm

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Postby Arcturus Novus » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:32 pm

I mean, such prideful feelings only go skin-deep.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:13 pm

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Laerod wrote:That's not a nice thing to say about me or Yummers! D=

Don't be too sure of yourself, because it wasn't aimed at you or anyone in particular. Anyone parroting the narrative you did is a target for that. Not everything is about you, you know. ;)

Nice try but no, it was fairly obvious the intent of "some PC douchebag's illogic."

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Postby Egoman » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:16 pm

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Egoman wrote:Don't be too sure of yourself, because it wasn't aimed at you or anyone in particular. Anyone parroting the narrative you did is a target for that. Not everything is about you, you know. ;)

Nice try but no, it was fairly obvious the intent of "some PC douchebag's illogic."

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Postby WCJNSTBH » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:23 pm

New Hellenica wrote:This has been on my mind lately. Is white pride a good thing?

In my opinion, white pride is a positive thing. I'm not a racist, and support pride of all other Races. I think it's good to be proud of Ones race.

Some people may think that Racial nationalism/pride is just a sanitized front for racism or racial supremacy. I do not think that one who is proud of their ethnicity a racist. I just think that they're proud to be white, black or whatever other race they are.

So NSG, what's your opinion on this topic?

I support the concept of Ethnic/Cultural pride.


To be clear however, I do not support the notions of Black and White, they taxonomic classifications that have very little to do with my biology, my lineage, etc etc.

That is to say, I am not Proud to be "White", I am proud of my heritage, my lineage, my history and the history of the peoples from I come. I consider being called "White" to be rather insulting, when it is applied to me as if "White" actually meant something besides its bigoted connotations.



Support the pride, dignity and self respect of all people.

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Postby New Frenco Empire » Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:07 pm

Racial pride is terrible and leads to terrible things.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:35 pm

New Frenco Empire wrote:Racial pride is terrible and leads to terrible things.

Yeah, that Martin Luther King was a right scumbag.

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Postby Meryuma » Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:41 pm

Whiteness is traditionally defined is opposition to "color"; i.e. any other race that is not "white enough", so no. It's totally fine to be proud of being Scottish or Italian or whatever but pride in "the white race" belongs in the dustbin of history
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Postby British Empire Strikes Back » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:53 pm

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:06 pm

Latzemia wrote:Why so many of you think white pride is bad? No, not ridiculous/silly, but bad? Can you give one reason?
Is it racist? No, racist is white supermacy not white pride. White pride may only be silly, but not bad. The SAME is for other prides (black, asian etc.).

It is racist. It is bad. Whites don't need a pride movement. We've run the world for quite a while now, and still mostly do. Blacks, LGBT, etc, need pride movements, to combat the current oppressive system.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:09 pm

White pride has caused oppression and genocide of millions.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:09 pm

Race is literally only skin-deep.

It's a shallow concept that only the autistic or the narrow-minded worry about.

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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:11 pm

14 year old white teens that want to be radical by advocating this sort of shit isn't good.

No siree. We've got a genocide that's racially motivated by x pride, but being prideful of your race is important because no one really died.

This is going to be tiring.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:12 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:14 year old white teens that want to be radical by advocating this sort of shit isn't good.

No siree. We've got a genocide that's racially motivated by x pride, but being prideful of your race is important because no one really died.

This is going to be tiring.


And not the good kind of tiring where everything gets sticky.

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Postby Rusozak » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:12 pm

The Rich Port wrote:Race is literally only skin-deep.

It's a shallow concept that only the autistic or the narrow-minded worry about.


Now now, autism has nothing to do with it.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:13 pm

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Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:14 year old white teens that want to be radical by advocating this sort of shit isn't good.

No siree. We've got a genocide that's racially motivated by x pride, but being prideful of your race is important because no one really died.

This is going to be tiring.


And not the good kind of tiring where everything gets sticky.


You're making this "white pride" more than it is.

Soon enough it's going to be sperm pride.
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Postby Mushrenia » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:14 pm

It is immoral to generalize that any race or ethnicity deserve to have guilt for being of that ethnicity.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:15 pm

Mushrenia wrote:It is immoral to generalize that any race or ethnicity deserve to have guilt for being of that ethnicity.

It's immoral to genocide, enslave, imprison, and oppress most of the world because they are different from you, then leave them to the total societal and political shitstorm you've created.
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Postby Mushrenia » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:22 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Mushrenia wrote:It is immoral to generalize that any race or ethnicity deserve to have guilt for being of that ethnicity.

It's immoral to genocide, enslave, imprison, and oppress most of the world because they are different from you, then leave them to the total societal and political shitstorm you've created.


In that case, you should find some Mongolians and tell them to self-flagellate and tear down their monuments to their ethnic heritage as well as the whites, for their Empires was just as guilty of every statement above in their conquests.

Do not think whites are somehow special in that department.
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