White Pride: A good thing?

[Derpopolia]

Pride for your skin color is always dumb. Literally, all it is is how much melatonin you have. You did not work to be your race, you did not sacrifice anything to be your race, and your race is not better than other races. There is absolutely nothing to be proud of there.

[Ifreann]

People just love to ignore reality so they can dismiss as stupid things they don't understand.

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It's not persecution when the pretty girl from school went to the dance with her black boyfriend instead of you.

See, you cannot even have a discussion, since you talk like a child.

Oh, I can have a discussion. I choose not to now because having a discussion with an anti-semitic racist conspiracy theorist wouldn't be anywhere near as fun as taking the piss out of your silly posts and the silly ideas behind them. "I have 'persecution awareness'." Top lel, as they say.

Get back in your lefty hug-box and pederast safe-zone.

This is my lefty hug-box.

[Vassenor]

Pride for your skin color is always dumb. Literally, all it is is how much melatonin you have. You did not work to be your race, you did not sacrifice anything to be your race, and your race is not better than other races. There is absolutely nothing to be proud of there.

Melatonin is a neurotransmitter. You're talking about Melanin.

[New Hellenica]

Pride for your skin color is always dumb. Literally, all it is is how much melatonin you have. You did not work to be your race, you did not sacrifice anything to be your race, and your race is not better than other races. There is absolutely nothing to be proud of there.

I didn't say it was better than other races.

[Neo-Vinnland]

Pride for your skin color is always dumb. Literally, all it is is how much melatonin you have. You did not work to be your race, you did not sacrifice anything to be your race, and your race is not better than other races. There is absolutely nothing to be proud of there.

You cannot be serious?

Melanin or melatonin?

If you're going to say something is dumb, you had best know what it is first.

[Republic of Mezoamerican States]

This has been on my mind lately. Is white pride a good thing?

Ahhh, the subtle racism of the left.

Black pride at least had some level of validity, but now we have "African-American." So, is someone with dark brown skin necessarily from Africa and not, oh, an Aborigine from Australia or from Malaysia, or a Dravidian? What about Egyptians? Egypt is in Africa. Are Egyptians "African American?" When you see the color of a man's skin you know precisely one thing; the color of his skin. Not anything about his ancestry.

And "Hispanic?" Yes? Are Spaniards even homogenous? Catalonians care to comment? Are Argentinians the same as Incas? Chichimeks? Does Paraguay have the same culture as Guatemala?

Oh, and "Asian?" Are Laotians the same genetic stock as Mongols? Kajaks? Where do the Persians fit in? Are they "Asians" or "White?"

So white pride? What "white" do you mean? Was Zimmerman "white?" Are Norwegians the same as Poles? Slovaks? Are Armenians the same as the French? What about the Dutch? Are South Africans "white?" Or are they "African-Americans?"

Someone once asked me what she should call a woman in our Van pool who was from Costa Rica? Should she call her Latina? Or Chicana?

I suggested that she ask the woman her name,
and call her that.

[Ifreann]

This has been on my mind lately. Is white pride a good thing?

Ahhh, the subtle racism of the left.

I don't know what about that post or poster makes you think either has any association with the left.

[Egoman]

You never asked me to substantiate anything.

Hm. You're right. This was what I was referring to. The quest to find a significant percentage of nonracist White Pride adherents is passed on to you.

I don't have to do another person's job.

[Laerod]

Hm. You're right. This was what I was referring to. The quest to find a significant percentage of nonracist White Pride adherents is passed on to you.

I don't have to do another person's job.

And thus I have sufficient cause to dismiss your point.

[Egoman]

I don't have to do another person's job.

And thus I have sufficient cause to dismiss your point.

You'd probably do it anyway seeing that you prefer to believe in a "white pride is bad, other pride is not bad"-double standard.

[New Hellenica]

This has been on my mind lately. Is white pride a good thing?

Ahhh, the subtle racism of the left.

Black pride at least had some level of validity, but now we have "African-American." So, is someone with dark brown skin necessarily from Africa and not, oh, an Aborigine from Australia or from Malaysia, or a Dravidian? What about Egyptians? Egypt is in Africa. Are Egyptians "African American?" When you see the color of a man's skin you know precisely one thing; the color of his skin. Not anything about his ancestry.

And "Hispanic?" Yes? Are Spaniards even homogenous? Catalonians care to comment? Are Argentinians the same as Incas? Chichimeks? Does Paraguay have the same culture as Guatemala?

Oh, and "Asian?" Are Laotians the same genetic stock as Mongols? Kajaks? Where do the Persians fit in? Are they "Asians" or "White?"

So white pride? What "white" do you mean? Was Zimmerman "white?" Are Norwegians the same as Poles? Slovaks? Are Armenians the same as the French? What about the Dutch? Are South Africans "white?" Or are they "African-Americans?"

Someone once asked me what she should call a woman in our Van pool who was from Costa Rica? Should she call her Latina? Or Chicana?

I suggested that she ask the woman her name,
and call her that.

I'm right wing. Why the f*ck did you think I was left?

[Ifreann]

And thus I have sufficient cause to dismiss your point.

You'd probably do it anyway seeing that you prefer to believe in a "white pride is bad, other pride is not bad"-double standard.

It's not a double-standard, though. This is also something that has been explained already.

[Egoman]

You'd probably do it anyway seeing that you prefer to believe in a "white pride is bad, other pride is not bad"-double standard.

It's not a double-standard, though. This is also something that has been explained already.

Of course not, because you say so. For example, I'm sure the NBPP is not racist at all. It's just a black pride collective!

[Periodspace]

I'm sure some of the more extreme ones are, especially on sites like Stormfront and Vanguard News Network. But I doubt every single person who thinks white pride is a good thing is a Nazi or racist.

It's tragic, a result of things a small percentage of whites did. I think white pride is a way some people might cope with their feelings of guilt.

Its a poor way of coping though. There are strong associations and links between white pride movements and neo-Nazi or white supremacist movements.

I never said it was a good way of coping.

I'm sure some of the more extreme ones are, especially on sites like Stormfront and Vanguard News Network. But I doubt every single person who thinks white pride is a good thing is a Nazi or racist.

It's seems a perfectly satisfactory explanation to me.

I find that hard to believe.

I'm sure some of the more extreme ones are, especially on sites like Stormfront and Vanguard News Network. But I doubt every single person who thinks white pride is a good thing is a Nazi or racist.

Show us some. The public representation, even in this very thread, of White Pride has been overwhelmingly racist.

Extremists tend to be more vocal than more moderate people.

White guilt is not a myth. I know plenty of white people who feel ashamed or guilty because of the actions of people with the same skin color as them, despite many of these white people not even having slave-owning ancestors or anything. Racial discrimination still exists? I'm sure it does, but I have not discriminated against anyone because of their race, and there are many people of other races who have more "social privilege" than I do.

white guilt is a really stupid idea. I am white and know so many white people and none of us feel guilt for being white. It just simply isn't a real thing. It's a talking point

Just because you don't know anyone with white guilt doesn't mean it isn't real.

For the record, I don't support white pride, although I think people should be proud of where they come from, "white" people encompass a wide variety of different ethnic groups, with no rigid definition.

[Ifreann]

It's not a double-standard, though. This is also something that has been explained already.

Of course not, because you say so. For example, I'm sure the NBPP is not racist at all. It's just a black pride collective!

Making up other people's reasoning rather than actually reading it seems like fun. I must try it some time.

[The Cobalt Sky]

Really? 29 people think that it isn't utterly ridiculous to be proud of a pigment?

Wondering this again too, because I think it's almost 50/50 now. I mean, it's one thing if you get careless and vote twice by accident, but it's not like that could have happened so many times.

[Cymrea]

Someone once asked me what she should call a woman in our Van pool who was from Costa Rica? Should she call her Latina? Or Chicana?

I suggested that she ask the woman her name,
and call her that.

Agreed. But she may be okay with Tica, according to my Costa Rican cousins; apparently, it's a common term locals use.

[Ifreann]

Really? 29 people think that it isn't utterly ridiculous to be proud of a pigment?

Wondering this again too, because I think it's almost 50/50 now. I mean, it's one thing if you get careless and vote twice by accident, but it's not like that could have happened so many times.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if some people were using multiple nations to skew the vote.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Racial "pride" is a good thing. It is always good to like yourself. Racial "power" is a bad thing. No race is "superior" to another, and having beliefs as such just causes violence.

[Esternial]

"Pride" has never seemed like an appropriate term for me. Doesn't take a lot of hard work to be a particular race.

Unless there are race membership trophies I was not informed about.

[The Cobalt Sky]

Wondering this again too, because I think it's almost 50/50 now. I mean, it's one thing if you get careless and vote twice by accident, but it's not like that could have happened so many times.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if some people were using multiple nations to skew the vote.

*inhales strongly, then exhales loudly *
Well I guess that's Internet anonymity for you.

[Esternial]

Wondering this again too, because I think it's almost 50/50 now. I mean, it's one thing if you get careless and vote twice by accident, but it's not like that could have happened so many times.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if some people were using multiple nations to skew the vote.

At least they can have one statistic that proves their point.

Oh wait, no, they can't.

[The Cobalt Sky]

Racial "pride" is a good thing. It is always good to like yourself.

Respecting yourself is a good thing, but you have no control over what race you are. Be proud of things you yourself have done. No more.

[Ifreann]

"Pride" has never seemed like an appropriate term for me. Doesn't take a lot of hard work to be a particular race.

Unless there are race membership trophies I was not informed about.

There's this whole thing where people of some races have a harder time accomplishing the same things as people of other races, all else being equal, because of differences in how they are treated in society.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

It's not a double-standard, though. This is also something that has been explained already.

Of course not, because you say so. For example, I'm sure the NBPP is not racist at all. It's just a black pride collective!

I don't recall anyone stating that the NBPP wasn't racist. "Black Pride" in and of itself is not racist, but there have been racists who have used it. However, I have never seen an example of a "White Pride" group that was not racist. I'm perfectly willing to look at any evidence to the contrary, though.

Really, you have to do better than strawmen.