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White Pride: Good or Bad

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Postby Omega America II » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:33 pm

Laerod wrote:
Omega America II wrote:We'll, i don't see how being proud of your race if bad.
But I do see how thinking your race is supreme is bad. Besides that, it's not that bad, white supremacy is bad.

White Pride is a white supremacy movement.

Uhh, there is a difference between pride and supremacy.
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Postby Omega America II » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:33 pm

Laerod wrote:
Omega America II wrote:We'll, i don't see how being proud of your race if bad.
But I do see how thinking your race is supreme is bad. Besides that, it's not that bad, white supremacy is bad.

White Pride is a white supremacy movement.

I mean, shouldn't you be proud of any race you are?
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:35 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Laerod wrote:White Pride is a white supremacy movement.

Uhh, there is a difference between pride and supremacy.


No there isn't.

Do some research before assuming you know what it is.

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Postby Omega America II » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:37 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Omega America II wrote:Uhh, there is a difference between pride and supremacy.


No there isn't.

Do some research before assuming you know what it is.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:46 pm

Omega America II wrote:We'll, i don't see how being proud of your race if bad.

White Pride is supremacist and usually separatist.

Plus, you realize race is biologically nonexistent?
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:48 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Omega America II wrote:We'll, i don't see how being proud of your race if bad.

White Pride is supremacist and usually separatist.

Plus, you realize race is biologically nonexistent?


At the very least, it's biologically superfluous.

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Postby Omega America II » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:48 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Omega America II wrote:We'll, i don't see how being proud of your race if bad.

White Pride is supremacist and usually separatist.

Plus, you realize race is biologically nonexistent?

Hmm.
Hmm, I do realize that face is biologically nonexistent.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:50 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Laerod wrote:White Pride is a white supremacy movement.

I mean, shouldn't you be proud of any race you are?

No.
Omega America II wrote:
Laerod wrote:White Pride is a white supremacy movement.

Uhh, there is a difference between pride and supremacy.

Not for whites.
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Postby Laerod » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:50 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Laerod wrote:White Pride is a white supremacy movement.

Uhh, there is a difference between pride and supremacy.

Nope. We've asked and asked for people to show that difference and no one that claims there is one has been able to. Meanwhile I've shown the Neonazis and White Supremacists that march in "White Pride Parades".

At this point it's pretty clear that "There's nothing wrong with White Pride" is white supremacist propaganda.

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Postby Omega America II » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:56 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Omega America II wrote:I mean, shouldn't you be proud of any race you are?

No.
Omega America II wrote:Uhh, there is a difference between pride and supremacy.

Not for whites.

Alright, I haven't really realized that until now.
And, are you saying whites are the only race that see themselves as supreme and proud?
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Postby Aarnonia » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:02 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Omega America II wrote:Uhh, there is a difference between pride and supremacy.

Not for whites.

Not for anyone. A black man with power will become a supermacist as many times as a white man will, racial pride shouldn't be excused for anyone.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:07 pm

Aarnonia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Not for whites.

Not for anyone. A black man with power will become a supermacist as many times as a white man will, racial pride shouldn't be excused for anyone.

Black Pride is largely a movement for equality. Increased rights for blacks will raise them to equal standing; white pride's only purpose is as a reaction against black/brown pride, and is inherently supremacist.
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Postby Laerod » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:08 pm

Aarnonia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Not for whites.

Not for anyone. A black man with power will become a supermacist as many times as a white man will, racial pride shouldn't be excused for anyone.

Yeah, but have you considered all the arguments that show that attitude to be bullshit?

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Postby Bogdanov Vishniac » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:09 pm

USS Monitor wrote:Wiki says:

Often the dominant allele codes for a functional protein whereas the recessive allele does not.


Often, not always or "by definition."


Note where I specifically said 'or low-function'. We're measuring relative capacities here.

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Dominance is unrelated to the nature of the phenotype itself, that is, whether it is regarded as "normal" or "abnormal," "standard" or "nonstandard," "healthy" or "diseased," "stronger" or "weaker," or more or less extreme. A dominant allele may account for any of these trait types.


Which is, again, why I put all such terms in quotes. I'm trying to teach dominance and recessiveness to someone who very obviously has not had much in the way of education in biology. Sometimes less-precise terms like 'less well' are useful in teaching a lay audience without devolving into jargon.

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And I stressed as much in my post.
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Postby New Werpland » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:10 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Aarnonia wrote:Not for anyone. A black man with power will become a supermacist as many times as a white man will, racial pride shouldn't be excused for anyone.

Black Pride is largely a movement for equality. Increased rights for blacks will raise them to equal standing; white pride's only purpose is as a reaction against black/brown pride, and is inherently supremacist.

What kind or rights are you talking about, Negative or Positive?

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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:13 pm

New Werpland wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Black Pride is largely a movement for equality. Increased rights for blacks will raise them to equal standing; white pride's only purpose is as a reaction against black/brown pride, and is inherently supremacist.

What kind or rights are you talking about, Negative or Positive?


Black pride was about positive rights. About getting blacks the vote, equal pay, fair representation in the legislature, the end of segregation, and so on.

... I'm not sure what white pride is going for, especially if there's a white pride movement that isn't about negative rights.

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Postby United States Kingdom » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:42 pm

Aarnonia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Not for whites.

Not for anyone. A black man with power will become a supermacist as many times as a white man will, racial pride shouldn't be excused for anyone.

Black pride is a movement that is seen to support equality for black people. It is a positive movement.

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Postby United World Order » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:45 pm

Why this thread exists is something I'd need a therapist to explain to me.

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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:48 pm

United World Order wrote:Why this thread exists is something I'd need a therapist to explain to me.


You need only read the OP... And all shall be made clear.

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Postby Cannabis Islands » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:50 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Aarnonia wrote:Not for anyone. A black man with power will become a supermacist as many times as a white man will, racial pride shouldn't be excused for anyone.

Black Pride is largely a movement for equality. Increased rights for blacks will raise them to equal standing; white pride's only purpose is as a reaction against black/brown pride, and is inherently supremacist.

Ehh...I still don't see it, Pruss.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:53 pm

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Black Pride is largely a movement for equality. Increased rights for blacks will raise them to equal standing; white pride's only purpose is as a reaction against black/brown pride, and is inherently supremacist.

Ehh...I still don't see it, Pruss.

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Postby Cannabis Islands » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:56 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:Ehh...I still don't see it, Pruss.

Your own fault. I and others have done our best.

And I'm saying this as a Latino, there is nothing wrong "white pride".
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:59 pm

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Your own fault. I and others have done our best.

And I'm saying this as a Latino, there is nothing wrong "white pride".

Yeah, what could possibly be wrong with skinheaded racists marching to support getting their jackboots on the throats of the untermensch.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:00 pm

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Your own fault. I and others have done our best.

And I'm saying this as a Latino, there is nothing wrong "white pride".

And I'm saying this as the owner of two Boston terriers who hasn't had a haircut in a few weeks: You're wrong.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:04 pm

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Your own fault. I and others have done our best.

And I'm saying this as a Latino, there is nothing wrong "white pride".

What is the purpose of white pride movements?
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