White Pride: A good thing?

[Gaiserin]

Nah, unless you have nothing but dry witty remarks maybe you shouldn't bother typing to begin with.

Kiddo, if you can't add more to this conversation than oft repeated bullshit, then you're the one wasting people's time. I'm saying this as someone that's posted pictures in this thread. I would assume that counts as more than just dry wit. But if you'd actually read the thread, you'd have known that, no?

Now now, that passive aggressiveness won't do very well if you are trying to make a point. Hey all xiik, all I did was post my own opinion on the thread, I wasn't the one whom pissed his panties and started a shit storm over someone else's post.
Ah, good for you for posting pictures, what a wonderful achievement you have done. As for you Prussia, you have not written shit, in case you will assume that I'm going to bother scroll through all 54 pages than no, I have more important things to do . I don't know, maybe you could try writing something worthwhile of reading instead of bitching like a spoiled little child?

Ah well, am gonna leave this thread than. I'll leave you two to enjoy your little small minded cicrle jerk party.

[The Rich Port]

About as pointless as black pride, Asian pride, native Indian pride, etc etc.. If people want to go and have a 'white pride' parade than sure, go ahead, you have that right by law.

All of those were formed in response to oppression and marginalization, living in a system of institutionalized racism, having no representation in government, being told in their daily lives that they were worthless. Those are revolutionary movements created for social change, for egalitarianism.

White pride was formed for none of those reasons. It is reactionary, wishing to return to a time when white people were dominating society all over the world.

[Washington Resistance Army]

About as pointless as black pride, Asian pride, native Indian pride, etc etc.. If people want to go and have a 'white pride' parade than sure, go ahead, you have that right by law.

All of those were formed in response to oppression and marginalization, living in a system of institutionalized racism, having no representation in government, being told in their daily lives that they were worthless. Those are revolutionary movements created for social change, for egalitarianism.

White pride was formed for none of those reasons. It is reactionary, wishing to return to a time when white people were dominating society all over the world.

Except for all the people who in this very thread have said they're proud to be white but don't want to return to that time.

Fuck all of them right?

[Laerod]

Kiddo, if you can't add more to this conversation than oft repeated bullshit, then you're the one wasting people's time. I'm saying this as someone that's posted pictures in this thread. I would assume that counts as more than just dry wit. But if you'd actually read the thread, you'd have known that, no?

Now now, that passive aggressiveness won't do very well if you are trying to make a point. Hey all xiik, all I did was post my own opinion on the thread, I wasn't the one whom pissed his panties and started a shit storm over someone else's post.

Opinions are worthless garbage for the most part. And this thread is full of them.

Ah, good for you for posting pictures, what a wonderful achievement you have done. As for you Prussia, you have not written shit, in case you will assume that I'm going to bother scroll through all 54 pages than no, I have more important things to do . I don't know, maybe you could try writing something worthwhile of reading instead of bitching like a spoiled little child?

Ah well, am gonna leave this thread than. I'll leave you two to enjoy your little small minded cicrle jerk party. ;)

Yes, fact-based reasoning is so small minded...

[The Rich Port]

All of those were formed in response to oppression and marginalization, living in a system of institutionalized racism, having no representation in government, being told in their daily lives that they were worthless. Those are revolutionary movements created for social change, for egalitarianism.

White pride was formed for none of those reasons. It is reactionary, wishing to return to a time when white people were dominating society all over the world.

Except for all the people who in this very thread have said they're proud to be white but don't want to return to that time.

Fuck all of them right?

Fuck their ignorance, is more like it.

White pride has never been about "being proud of being white". Your Tumblr idea of white pride means nothing in the face of what it is in practice.

It has already been explained why even being proud of your skin color is stupid.

Also, nice but obvious use of an emotional fallacy.

[Laerod]

All of those were formed in response to oppression and marginalization, living in a system of institutionalized racism, having no representation in government, being told in their daily lives that they were worthless. Those are revolutionary movements created for social change, for egalitarianism.

White pride was formed for none of those reasons. It is reactionary, wishing to return to a time when white people were dominating society all over the world.

Except for all the people who in this very thread have said they're proud to be white but don't want to return to that time.

And a good number of them lied.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

As for you Prussia, you have not written shit, in case you will assume that I'm going to bother scroll through all 54 pages than no, I have more important things to do . I don't know, maybe you could try writing something worthwhile of reading instead of bitching like a spoiled little child?

Ah well, am gonna leave this thread than. I'll leave you two to enjoy your little small minded cicrle jerk party.

Oh, wow. Really? I am the child?

Anyway:

Black Pride is a revolutionary movement for equality.

White Pride is a reactionary movement for the racial status quo ante.

White Pride is a reaction to Black/Brown/Gay Pride. The latter is revolutionary; it is acting against an oppressive status quo. The former is reactionary; it wishes to return to the status quo ante, otherwise it would not exist.

"White pride"/supremacism/separatism/whatever variant you like...is only a defence against societal progress and racial equality.

People that are already the norm, already more successful, already have more opportunities, and are even already the Western standard of beauty, don't need pride. White pride is a reaction to movements for equality; that is bad.

The most powerful man in the world right now is black. The most powerful person in the justice system is a black woman, and the holder of that position before her was a black man. A black man and three women currently sit on the Supreme Court.

And yet eighty percent of Congress is white and male, and not even one percent of Fortune 500 CEOs are black.

There is nothing stopping any social, political, or economic advancement of any determined individual because of his or her race or gender.

Ha. Bullshit.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Except for all the people who in this very thread have said they're proud to be white but don't want to return to that time.

Fuck all of them right?

Fuck their ignorance, is more like it.

White pride has never been about "being proud of being white". Your Tumblr idea of white pride means nothing in the face of what it is in practice.

It has already been explained why even being proud of your skin color is stupid.

Oh I'm not defending them, I think any *skin color here* pride movement is hilariously retarded. But the idea that everyone who is proud to be white is a Nazi is even more retarded. Just like the idea that everyone who is proud to be black is a member of the NBPP and wants to kill whitey is retarded.

[Laerod]

Fuck their ignorance, is more like it.

White pride has never been about "being proud of being white". Your Tumblr idea of white pride means nothing in the face of what it is in practice.

It has already been explained why even being proud of your skin color is stupid.

Oh I'm not defending them, I think any *skin color here* pride movement is hilariously retarded.

Yeah, but that's like your (refuted) opinion, man.

But the idea that everyone who is proud to be white is a Nazi is even more retarded.

We've asked people to show that White Pride isn't white supremacist. No one has managed to find evidence that they're not one and the same thing. So, go ahead and find adherents of White Pride that aren't white supremacists or neo-nazis.

[The Rich Port]

Fuck their ignorance, is more like it.

White pride has never been about "being proud of being white". Your Tumblr idea of white pride means nothing in the face of what it is in practice.

It has already been explained why even being proud of your skin color is stupid.

Oh I'm not defending them, I think any *skin color here* pride movement is hilariously retarded. But the idea that everyone who is proud to be white is a Nazi is even more retarded. Just like the idea that everyone who is proud to be black is a member of the NBPP and wants to kill whitey is retarded.

The white pride movement was begun as a public relations campaign by the Ku Klux Klan...

What do you mean, not all of them are racist?

[Xinxian]

"White pride" is as good or bad as "black pride", "brown pride" or "yellow pride". Everybody should take pride in their culture and ethnicity, but I do think that outdated racial classifications on the basis of skin colour are too broad, and fail to reflect the complexity of real-world cultural dynamics. For example, an average 'white' person from America probably has more in common, culturally speaking, with an average 'brown' or 'yellow' person from their own country than, say, with a 'white' person from Hungary. It makes more sense to say "I'm proud of being Manx" or "I'm proud of being Frisian" than to say "I'm proud of being white".

[Xinxian]

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[Crimiea]

I dislike the idea of [insert ethnicity here] pride, but, considering we have Black Pride, Hispanic Pride, etc, I think Whites should be given a chance too.

Or, as I'd like to happen, get rid of racial pride entirely in the United States and act like a unified people.

[Imperialisium]

Except geneticists disagree. Mixed race babies usually have more negatives than positives in their gene pool. Maybe in a million years when Evolution kicks in it'll work out better. Till then not so much.

Source?

'Cause all I've heard is that they have (slightly) better immune systems, and I personally have never seen a mixed person who looked bad.

I said "chance" not "everyone who is mixed race." And I'm speaking about genes, not the races involved.

I recommend researching it yourself since it is an evolving science and I may be outdated from the research I've read a year ago along with the lectures. But currently it seems that mixed race babies have a higher chance of retaining genes that may cause health problems. This is not so much the fact the baby is mixed, rather the combination of genes. Many genes considered malicious like sickle cell anemia are dominant genes. While the genes that confer immunity to aids are recessive and so far have been only found in Central European/Northern European gene pools. Research into gene splicing may correct this occurrence and allow greater trade offs in offspring. Only time will tell.

So before people call me disgusting or wrong. Know what the hell I am talking about first. Because quite frankly using fallacies doesn't get anyone anywhere.

[Terminus Alpha]

Source?

'Cause all I've heard is that they have (slightly) better immune systems, and I personally have never seen a mixed person who looked bad.

I said "chance" not "everyone who is mixed race." And I'm speaking about genes, not the races involved.

I recommend researching it yourself since it is an evolving science and I may be outdated from the research I've read a year ago along with the lectures. But currently it seems that mixed race babies have a higher chance of retaining genes that may cause health problems. This is not so much the fact the baby is mixed, rather the combination of genes. Many genes considered malicious like sickle cell anemia are dominant genes. While the genes that confer immunity to aids are recessive and so far have been only found in Central European/Northern European gene pools. Research into gene splicing may correct this occurrence and allow greater trade offs in offspring. Only time will tell.

So before people call me disgusting or wrong. Know what the hell I am talking about first. Because quite frankly using fallacies doesn't get anyone anywhere.

So, no source. I'm going to take your opinion with a grain of salt then.

[Imperialisium]

I said "chance" not "everyone who is mixed race." And I'm speaking about genes, not the races involved.

I recommend researching it yourself since it is an evolving science and I may be outdated from the research I've read a year ago along with the lectures. But currently it seems that mixed race babies have a higher chance of retaining genes that may cause health problems. This is not so much the fact the baby is mixed, rather the combination of genes. Many genes considered malicious like sickle cell anemia are dominant genes. While the genes that confer immunity to aids are recessive and so far have been only found in Central European/Northern European gene pools. Research into gene splicing may correct this occurrence and allow greater trade offs in offspring. Only time will tell.

So before people call me disgusting or wrong. Know what the hell I am talking about first. Because quite frankly using fallacies doesn't get anyone anywhere.

So, no source. I'm going to take your opinion with a grain of salt then.

I said research it. It's not like Newtons Laws here, we've only recorded the genome a few years ago and still learning how all of this works.

So take the facts however you wish. I don't really care as everyone has a right o an opinion. Who knows maybe six months from now all of what we know may need to be revised by new discoveries.

And quite frankly you haven't sourced anything either and I have no reason to spend my time doing so for someone who probably could care less.

So I dropped my little contribution and I bid you Adieu.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I said research it.

Doesn't matter. You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you.

[The Cobalt Sky]

Source?

'Cause all I've heard is that they have (slightly) better immune systems, and I personally have never seen a mixed person who looked bad.

I said "chance" not "everyone who is mixed race." And I'm speaking about genes, not the races involved.

I recommend researching it yourself since it is an evolving science and I may be outdated from the research I've read a year ago along with the lectures. But currently it seems that mixed race babies have a higher chance of retaining genes that may cause health problems.

No. Prussia-Steinbach looked into it, and the sources seem to disagree with you.

Since when are mixed-race babies getting more negatives than positives genetically?

They aren't.

In fact, they're scientifically more attractive, as well as less prone to infectious diseases and parasites. It's a fact they're biologically better off than those of us with much less genetic diversity.

This is not so much the fact the baby is mixed, rather the combination of genes.

...So then why did you make that point to begin with, if it didn't really have anything to do with race?

Many genes considered malicious like sickle cell anemia are dominant genes.

Not quite...

The disease has a recessive pattern of inheritance: only individuals with two copies of the sickle-cell allele have the disease. People with just one copy are healthy.

Malaria resistance, however, is.

Malaria resistance has a dominant inheritance pattern: just one copy of the sickle cell allele is enough to protect against infection. This is the very same allele that, in a recessive inheritance pattern, causes sickle-cell disease!

And that's actually kinda cool.
http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/ ... /patterns/
Also, not every African has sickle cell, if that's what you're suggesting.

While the genes that confer immunity to aids are recessive and so far have been only found in Central European/Northern European gene pools. Research into gene splicing may correct this occurrence and allow greater trade offs in offspring. Only time will tell.

Just source something.

So before people call me disgusting or wrong. Know what the hell I am talking about first. Because quite frankly using fallacies doesn't get anyone anywhere.

You basically just called me genetically inferior. So yeah, I think what you said is disgusting. You yourself are just misguided.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Source?

'Cause all I've heard is that they have (slightly) better immune systems, and I personally have never seen a mixed person who looked bad.

I said "chance" not "everyone who is mixed race." And I'm speaking about genes, not the races involved.

I recommend researching it yourself since it is an evolving science and I may be outdated from the research I've read a year ago along with the lectures. But currently it seems that mixed race babies have a higher chance of retaining genes that may cause health problems. This is not so much the fact the baby is mixed, rather the combination of genes. Many genes considered malicious like sickle cell anemia are dominant genes. While the genes that confer immunity to aids are recessive and so far have been only found in Central European/Northern European gene pools. Research into gene splicing may correct this occurrence and allow greater trade offs in offspring. Only time will tell.

So before people call me disgusting or wrong. Know what the hell I am talking about first. Because quite frankly using fallacies doesn't get anyone anywhere.

I did a cursory research on Google.

Most of the arguments are historiographic with outdated sources about this so-called "disadvantage".

[Gyrenaica]

Modern American societal views:
"I'm proud to be black" said a black man
"I'm proud to be Asian" said an Asian man
"I'm proud to be white" said a racist

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Kiddo, if you can't add more to this conversation than oft repeated bullshit, then you're the one wasting people's time. I'm saying this as someone that's posted pictures in this thread. I would assume that counts as more than just dry wit. But if you'd actually read the thread, you'd have known that, no?

Now now, that passive aggressiveness won't do very well if you are trying to make a point. Hey all xiik, all I did was post my own opinion on the thread, I wasn't the one whom pissed his panties and started a shit storm over someone else's post.
Ah, good for you for posting pictures, what a wonderful achievement you have done. As for you Prussia, you have not written shit, in case you will assume that I'm going to bother scroll through all 54 pages than no, I have more important things to do . I don't know, maybe you could try writing something worthwhile of reading instead of bitching like a spoiled little child?

Ah well, am gonna leave this thread than. I'll leave you two to enjoy your little small minded cicrle jerk party.

How does it feel to be so close to that edge?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Modern American societal views:
"I'm proud to be black" said a black man
"I'm proud to be Asian" said an Asian man
"I'm proud to be white" said a racist

Hahano.

[Gyrenaica]

Modern American societal views:
"I'm proud to be black" said a black man
"I'm proud to be Asian" said an Asian man
"I'm proud to be white" said a racist

Hahano.

Yes. Whenever someone says they're proud to be white, society screams "racism"

[Kannex]

Ideas don't exist in a vacuum; they all have context. Now, it's pretty clear any notion of "white pride" is a response to "black pride" and "yellow pride" and all the other racial "pride" movements. Without these prior movements, there would no reason for anybody to be crying for "white pride." Now, the whole reason why blacks had black pride was to gain this pride. Blacks have traditionally been marginalized economically, socially, and politically. It was shown in Brown v. Board that black children had lower self-esteem from years of segregation and racism. After all these years of marginalization, blacks and other minority groups are beginning to express and take pride in their cultural identities, instead of conforming to the larger White America as they have always done. Black pride isn't really about the amount of melatonin in your skin. If it were, then darker-skinned blacks would have more 'pride' than lighter-skinned blacks.

At any rate, it's pride and appreciation for one's ethnic and cultural background. For most of the last century, blacks were told their accomplishments weren't worth anything and that black body features were ugly. Blacks responded by pride in their music, their culture, their hair, their blackness. It makes sense.

Now, I fail to see how whites need "white pride." Whites are hardly marginalized. Certainly, you can say that affirmative action policies are unfair to the individual student, but contrary to what some may think, whites are not this oppressed, marginalized minority. Whites don't need to 'reclaim' any lost pride as a racial or ethnic group. Certainly, it's great to be proud of your heritage, whether your ancestors are from England or Bangladesh. But these movement only seems to be racially divisive as best. Whites can have pride, but whites don't need a "white pride."

[The Cobalt Sky]

Hahano.

Yes. Whenever someone says they're proud to be white, society screams "racism"

All of society? Really? Have you looked through this thread? There are a ton of other people who probably shared your views and have already tried bringing up that point.