White Pride: A good thing?

[Salus Maior]

Fucking thank you.

Good that an actual black person could speak on the issue.

Of course, such a thing is hard to tell on a website unless someone mentions it

[United States Kingdom]

Your notion that black pride is related to some supremacist group, or a gang is wrong. Firstly, as a black person, let me state that black pride is a movement used to encourage people who are black that it their is nothing wrong with being black. Black people are heavily discriminated, especially in the USA( where the KKK, Bloods, and Black Panthers are located). In addition to that, Black Pride s used to celebrate the heritage of black people, and to celebrate the culture we have. Numerous things such as slavery, genocide, colonialism have affected us significantly. Black pride is a movement that basically states "we will not be brought down". Therefor, your notion that black pride is related to supremacist groups is wrong.

Now to address the Black Panthers. You may or may not know this, but there was a Black Panther party before the current Black Panthers. While there are numerous things that I think the Black Panthers Party did wrong, I must recognize that there were a group that advocated for anti racism. Furthermore, the group was involved in numerous things such as Free Breakfast for Children Program among other community social programs ,as well as community health clinics. That is something that is not bad. In addition to that, there were a group that was created in order to fight off police brutality and racism in Oakland.

Also, I just want to note that while African Americans make the majority of the gang known as The Bloods, according to Wikipidea "The Bloods are a primarily, though not exclusively, African American street gang founded in Los Angeles, California. ". Therefore, your belief that the Bloods are simply African American is wrong.

Fucking thank you.

Good that an actual black person could speak on the issue.

Your welcome.

[United States Kingdom]

Fucking thank you.

Good that an actual black person could speak on the issue.

Of course, such a thing is hard to tell on a website unless someone mentions it

Well, I have stated numerous times here on NSG that I am African, and Black.

[The Rich Port]

I get the feeling NAR would be less swayed by a black person than a white person.

[The Cobalt Sky]

I think its fine this is coming from someone who is mixed race. If your white & proud or black & proud good for you. But any Black, White, Brown, Yellow or red supremacists are stupid.

I'm mixed race and I completely disagree with you. There is no need for a white pride movement.

[Ayothaya]

I get the feeling NAR would be less swayed by a black person than a white person.

NAR is not likely to be swayed by anybody.

[Salus Maior]

Of course, such a thing is hard to tell on a website unless someone mentions it

Well, I have stated numerous times here on NSG that I am African, and Black.

Don't worry, I'm not doubting it. I just find it funny that everyone seems to assume an NS player is white first

[Ayothaya]

Well, I have stated numerous times here on NSG that I am African, and Black.

Don't worry, I'm not doubting it. I just find it funny that everyone seems to assume an NS player is white first

That's probably a safe assumption in around 7 out of 10 cases.

[Laerod]

See the last 44 pages.

I know I was part of them.

I said White PRIDE, not White Power. Two very different things

No. Stop lying.

[Cannabis Islands]

I know I was part of them.

I said White PRIDE, not White Power. Two very different things

No. Stop lying.

Technically, they are two different things....

[Laerod]

No. Stop lying.

Technically, they are two different things....

Technically, so are Intelligent Design and Creationism. Practically there is no difference and this thread is the Kitzmiller v. Dover equivalent that underlines that White Pride is White Power with a slightly different combination of letters.

[Cannabis Islands]

Technically, they are two different things....

Technically, so are Intelligent Design and Creationism. Practically there is no difference and this thread is the Kitzmiller v. Dover equivalent that underlines that White Pride is White Power with a slightly different combination of letters.

Speaking as a person that is only 35% white, I see no bigotry just because someone says "white pride". As a gay person, I see no bigotry behind the statement of "straight pride"

[Imperialisium]

You could say I am proud to be white. In the sense of my heritage and ancestry that is a definite yes. I am proud of my races achievements which really includes all of those of European descent. I actually prefer the term Caucasian which is the scientifically appropriate term. I think Caucasians have been a very intellectually and productive member of Humanity and that collectively all of Humanity can achieve great things.

White is a catch all term. Much like black, hispanic, latino, or asian. Yes they can be good to help categorize different civilizations, traditions, and cultures in the absolute broadest sense. But really it is just am abstraction brought on by visual, physical, sight and origin.

Really what separates pride into good and bad in the general sense is how one goes about it. I can wave flags and wear shirts celebrating my Caucasian origins all day and be kind to every human I meet. I think that's a fantastic way to go about it. But if I waved those flags and wore those shirts while spitting on everyone else solely for being "different" then that's where problems occur.

See people take pride and nationalism and lump them together while using it to put themselves on a moral high horse. For example I like the idea of Fascism in that everyone is being productive and working as a unit to better the country they live in. But at the same time I don't want to exterminate everyone else simply "because they are different." Thats the problem. Its using it as a pedestal for ones own agenda.

[Laerod]

Technically, so are Intelligent Design and Creationism. Practically there is no difference and this thread is the Kitzmiller v. Dover equivalent that underlines that White Pride is White Power with a slightly different combination of letters.

Speaking as a person that is only 35% white, I see no bigotry just because someone says "white pride". As a gay person, I see no bigotry behind the statement of "straight pride"

So? That White Pride is moniker hate groups use is verifiably true. That White Pride is advocated by anyone not a white supremacist or racist has yet to be proven, despite numerous times people arguing that White Pride wasn't very specifically associated with white supremacy were asked to show that this was actually the case.

Your subjective opinion is of no value in this case.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Technically, so are Intelligent Design and Creationism. Practically there is no difference and this thread is the Kitzmiller v. Dover equivalent that underlines that White Pride is White Power with a slightly different combination of letters.

Speaking as a person that is only 35% white, I see no bigotry just because someone says "white pride". As a gay person, I see no bigotry behind the statement of "straight pride"

No one cares? You can be a minority and be wrong.

[Cannabis Islands]

Speaking as a person that is only 35% white, I see no bigotry just because someone says "white pride". As a gay person, I see no bigotry behind the statement of "straight pride"

No one cares? You can be a minority and be wrong.

Why is it logical for me as a Hispanic to say "Viva La Raza" and not for a white person to say "white pride!"

[Prussia-Steinbach]

No one cares? You can be a minority and be wrong.

Why is it logical for me as a Hispanic to say "Viva La Raza" and not for a white person to say "white pride!"

I've already explained this in fucking detail. Numerous times. Stop fucking asking and go review a few pages of this thread.

[The Cobalt Sky]

No one cares? You can be a minority and be wrong.

Why is it logical for me as a Hispanic to say "Viva La Raza" and not for a white person to say "white pride!"

A white pride movement isn't necessary. Black pride and white pride aren't analogous. Black pride has its ties in the civil rights movement, white pride is used primarily by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations.

[Adnan Nawaz And Bureacrats Elsewhere]

Although I am not white, I do not think that white pride or any pride should be met with dissent. It is good to be proud of what has been decided of you by destiny.

[Laerod]

No one cares? You can be a minority and be wrong.

Why is it logical for me as a Hispanic to say "Viva La Raza" and not for a white person to say "white pride!"

Sheriff Arpaio and SB1070 come to mind.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Meh, if there are gay pride marches, black pride, native pride and all sorts of prides, then why shouldn't those whites who want one get one? I mean, it's not like it's against the law in the States (or any other Western country with a Caucasian population), as long as they don't neglect their sworn duty to their "neighbour" in the eyes of the law to maintain a duty of care towards them. (I follow Common Law from the Commonwealth so I'm not exactly sure how the rebellious American colonies run their territories )

[Laerod]

Meh, if there are gay pride marches, black pride, native pride and all sorts of prides, then why shouldn't those whites who want one get one? I mean, it's not like it's against the law in the States (or any other Western country with a Caucasian population), as long as they don't neglect their sworn duty to their "neighbour" in the eyes of the law to maintain a duty of care towards them. (I follow Common Law from the Commonwealth so I'm not exactly sure how the rebellious American colonies run their territories :p )

But they do get their pride parades:

(I'd link to the site where I found it, but it's a White Pride Worldwide site and thus counts as a hate site and is probably not acceptable on this forum.)

Link to a picture of people celebrating White Pride World Wide Day, because the image is too large.

(taken from the site of a white supremacist party, so no direct links to that, sorry.)

Granted, it appears to be somewhat against the law to display the White Pride symbol in Germany. For some reason it's on the same list of banned symbols as the swastika and SS runes. I wonder why...

[Ifreann]

No, it isn't.

Yes. Yes it is. It's how we act, what we practice, our history and culture

Well why don't you tell me about white culture. I mean, I'm white, and I've lived in a majority white country for my entire life, in a town that has probably had more pubs than non-white people for most of that time, but please, tell me about something that I should logically be intimately familiar with. Unless, of course, it doesn't actually exist.

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Meh, if there are gay pride marches, black pride, native pride and all sorts of prides, then why shouldn't those whites who want one get one? I mean, it's not like it's against the law in the States (or any other Western country with a Caucasian population), as long as they don't neglect their sworn duty to their "neighbour" in the eyes of the law to maintain a duty of care towards them. (I follow Common Law from the Commonwealth so I'm not exactly sure how the rebellious American colonies run their territories )

But they do get their pride parades:

(I'd link to the site where I found it, but it's a White Pride Worldwide site and thus counts as a hate site and is probably not acceptable on this forum.)

Link to a picture of people celebrating White Pride World Wide Day, because the image is too large.

(taken from the site of a white supremacist party, so no direct links to that, sorry.)

Granted, it appears to be somewhat against the law to display the White Pride symbol in Germany. For some reason it's on the same list of banned symbols as the swastika and SS runes. I wonder why...

Germany is obviously racist against white people.

[New Jordslag]

You fear for the future of your race? Why?

Well because the White Race is now the smallest of the world's races. We're being outproduced, pure White blood is disappearing with all the mixed babies and shit. And not only as a white man, but as an American, America is quickly becoming a black and Hispanic country

I love how he's afraid of White People becoming a minority. What, are minoritues treated badly or something? Who could have ever started that practice?

[Terminus Alpha]

You fear for the future of your race? Why?

Well because the White Race is now the smallest of the world's races. We're being outproduced, pure White blood is disappearing with all the mixed babies and shit. And not only as a white man, but as an American, America is quickly becoming a black and Hispanic country

Dude. Mixed babies are the cutest, and I have never seen a mixed person who looked bad. Mixed people are the master race.

Also, "pure white blood."