Otherkin

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Considering the entire concept was created as a mockery of my community's struggles, its different from the example you gave, where religion has been hijacked.

I doubt people even had any idea that the transgender community existed back when they began worshipping Native American religions in America (many of which are based on such a belief) or when stories about werewolves started appearing in Europe. What I understand from your post is basically 'oh no Illuminati' to me.
For thousands of years, people have thought 'oh, I have something in common with [object/animal]' and/or 'I wonder what it would be like to be [object/animal]' intentionally to sabotage you in the future. No other reason.

Considering that there wasn't a transgender community as vibrant as we do now and Tumblr wasn't a thing, it's a pretty stupid comparison to make it a mockery. The ideal has been around for centuries, and even now, native Americans pratice "Two spirit" where they are both male and female in terms of identity and religion.

I'm also going to put out that, even as a "otherkin", that I usually don't act like a deer. I identify as a deer, but I'm not going to act like a deer. I'm not going to be asked to be called a deer, it pretty much my own little secret that means somewhat little in my life of charades and games.

[Rikatan]

I doubt people even had any idea that the transgender community existed back when they began worshipping Native American religions in America (many of which are based on such a belief) or when stories about werewolves started appearing in Europe. What I understand from your post is basically 'oh no Illuminati' to me.
For thousands of years, people have thought 'oh, I have something in common with [object/animal]' and/or 'I wonder what it would be like to be [object/animal]' intentionally to sabotage you in the future. No other reason.

Considering that there wasn't a transgender community as vibrant as we do now and Tumblr wasn't a thing, it's a pretty stupid comparison to make it a mockery. The ideal has been around for centuries, and even now, native Americans pratice "Two spirit" where they are both male and female in terms of identity and religion.

Exactly what I'm trying to say. This massive Illuminati time-traveling conspiracy is nonsensical.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Considering that there wasn't a transgender community as vibrant as we do now and Tumblr wasn't a thing, it's a pretty stupid comparison to make it a mockery. The ideal has been around for centuries, and even now, native Americans pratice "Two spirit" where they are both male and female in terms of identity and religion.

Exactly what I'm trying to say. This massive Illuminati time-traveling conspiracy is nonsensical.

The fucking Native Americans are at it again.

/joke

[Olivaero]

To be fair the actual use of the term "Otherkin" is fairly recent as in 20th century recent. As I understand it it's more like thinking your soul is literally a supernatural creature, It spawned from the LotR fandom (which obviously predates the internet) as far as I know. Animal totems/spirit animals aren't quite that from what I understand of various shamanistic religions.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

To be fair the actual use of the term "Otherkin" is fairly recent as in 20th century recent. As I understand it it's more like thinking your soul is literally a supernatural creature, It spawned from the LotR fandom (which obviously predates the internet) as far as I know. Animal totems/spirit animals aren't quite that from what I understand of various shamanistic religions.

Otherkin is a name to which I have no fucking idea who came up with it. I don't know, pulled it out their ass? It sounds stupid, to be honest.

However in such shamanistic religions, such as some native americans, Youth hunt and kill the animal, skin it and declaw it, put it all in a bag, and it becomes his medicine. If he loses it, it's irreplaceable. However this is also practiced in West African Religions.

[Geilinor]

I doubt people even had any idea that the transgender community existed back when they began worshipping Native American religions in America (many of which are based on such a belief) or when stories about werewolves started appearing in Europe. What I understand from your post is basically 'oh no Illuminati' to me.
For thousands of years, people have thought 'oh, I have something in common with [object/animal]' and/or 'I wonder what it would be like to be [object/animal]' intentionally to sabotage you in the future. No other reason.

Considering that there wasn't a transgender community as vibrant as we do now and Tumblr wasn't a thing, it's a pretty stupid comparison to make it a mockery. The ideal has been around for centuries, and even now, native Americans pratice "Two spirit" where they are both male and female in terms of identity and religion.

I'm also going to put out that, even as a "otherkin", that I usually don't act like a deer. I identify as a deer, but I'm not going to act like a deer. I'm not going to be asked to be called a deer, it pretty much my own little secret that means somewhat little in my life of charades and games.

Continuing to use the idea of otherkin and spreading it will only be seen as mockery.

[Deskorga]

I'm a piece of feces in the litter box! I'M NOT FRIGGIN CRAZY!!!!

[Geilinor]

To be fair the actual use of the term "Otherkin" is fairly recent as in 20th century recent. As I understand it it's more like thinking your soul is literally a supernatural creature, It spawned from the LotR fandom (which obviously predates the internet) as far as I know. Animal totems/spirit animals aren't quite that from what I understand of various shamanistic religions.

Otherkin is a name to which I have no fucking idea who came up with it. I don't know, pulled it out their ass? It sounds stupid, to be honest.

However in such shamanistic religions, such as some native americans, Youth hunt and kill the animal, skin it and declaw it, put it all in a bag, and it becomes his medicine. If he loses it, it's irreplaceable. However this is also practiced in West African Religions.

Medicine? So they don't believe that they are another species.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Otherkin is a name to which I have no fucking idea who came up with it. I don't know, pulled it out their ass? It sounds stupid, to be honest.

However in such shamanistic religions, such as some native americans, Youth hunt and kill the animal, skin it and declaw it, put it all in a bag, and it becomes his medicine. If he loses it, it's irreplaceable. However this is also practiced in West African Religions.

Medicine? So they don't believe that they are another species.

They don't actually use the medicine.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Considering that there wasn't a transgender community as vibrant as we do now and Tumblr wasn't a thing, it's a pretty stupid comparison to make it a mockery. The ideal has been around for centuries, and even now, native Americans pratice "Two spirit" where they are both male and female in terms of identity and religion.

I'm also going to put out that, even as a "otherkin", that I usually don't act like a deer. I identify as a deer, but I'm not going to act like a deer. I'm not going to be asked to be called a deer, it pretty much my own little secret that means somewhat little in my life of charades and games.

Continuing to use the idea of otherkin and spreading it will only be seen as mockery.

Only if dumblr continues to fuck it up and want people to call them "cub/cubs/cubself". My god are those people tiring.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

I'm a piece of feces in the litter box! I'M NOT FRIGGIN CRAZY!!!!

What is it that intrigues you with fece skin?

[Olivaero]

To be fair the actual use of the term "Otherkin" is fairly recent as in 20th century recent. As I understand it it's more like thinking your soul is literally a supernatural creature, It spawned from the LotR fandom (which obviously predates the internet) as far as I know. Animal totems/spirit animals aren't quite that from what I understand of various shamanistic religions.

Otherkin is a name to which I have no fucking idea who came up with it. I don't know, pulled it out their ass? It sounds stupid, to be honest.

However in such shamanistic religions, such as some native americans, Youth hunt and kill the animal, skin it and declaw it, put it all in a bag, and it becomes his medicine. If he loses it, it's irreplaceable. However this is also practiced in West African Religions.

A lot of things sound stupid, the word and connotations of furry sounded stupid until I realized I was one.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Otherkin is a name to which I have no fucking idea who came up with it. I don't know, pulled it out their ass? It sounds stupid, to be honest.

However in such shamanistic religions, such as some native americans, Youth hunt and kill the animal, skin it and declaw it, put it all in a bag, and it becomes his medicine. If he loses it, it's irreplaceable. However this is also practiced in West African Religions.

A lot of things sound stupid, the word and connotations of furry sounded stupid until I realized I was one.

Same here. Even then, sometimes it still sounds fucking stupid. "furotica". Fucking hell man.

[Rikatan]

Considering that there wasn't a transgender community as vibrant as we do now and Tumblr wasn't a thing, it's a pretty stupid comparison to make it a mockery. The ideal has been around for centuries, and even now, native Americans pratice "Two spirit" where they are both male and female in terms of identity and religion.

I'm also going to put out that, even as a "otherkin", that I usually don't act like a deer. I identify as a deer, but I'm not going to act like a deer. I'm not going to be asked to be called a deer, it pretty much my own little secret that means somewhat little in my life of charades and games.

Continuing to use the idea of otherkin and spreading it will only be seen as mockery.

Yeah, just as much as continuing the use of anything is mockery to it. What, are we suddenly a shame for any community we're a part in?

[Dyakovo]

I doubt people even had any idea that the transgender community existed back when they began worshipping Native American religions in America (many of which are based on such a belief) or when stories about werewolves started appearing in Europe. What I understand from your post is basically 'oh no Illuminati' to me.
For thousands of years, people have thought 'oh, I have something in common with [object/animal]' and/or 'I wonder what it would be like to be [object/animal]' intentionally to sabotage you in the future. No other reason.

Considering that there wasn't a transgender community as vibrant as we do now and Tumblr wasn't a thing, it's a pretty stupid comparison to make it a mockery. The ideal has been around for centuries, and even now, native Americans pratice "Two spirit" where they are both male and female in terms of identity and religion.

I'm also going to put out that, even as a "otherkin", that I usually don't act like a deer. I identify as a deer, but I'm not going to act like a deer. I'm not going to be asked to be called a deer, it pretty much my own little secret that means somewhat little in my life of charades and games.

Amerind two-spirit is absolutely nothing like otherkin bullshit.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Considering that there wasn't a transgender community as vibrant as we do now and Tumblr wasn't a thing, it's a pretty stupid comparison to make it a mockery. The ideal has been around for centuries, and even now, native Americans pratice "Two spirit" where they are both male and female in terms of identity and religion.

I'm also going to put out that, even as a "otherkin", that I usually don't act like a deer. I identify as a deer, but I'm not going to act like a deer. I'm not going to be asked to be called a deer, it pretty much my own little secret that means somewhat little in my life of charades and games.

Amerind two-spirit is absolutely nothing like otherkin bullshit.

No fucking shit Dyakovo. Wanna tell me something else?

[Dyakovo]

Amerind two-spirit is absolutely nothing like otherkin bullshit.

No fucking shit Dyakovo. Wanna tell me something else?

Well, you clearly didn't realize that before I pointed it out since you compared the two.
Additionally, this right here:

However in such shamanistic religions, such as some native americans, Youth hunt and kill the animal, skin it and declaw it, put it all in a bag, and it becomes his medicine. If he loses it, it's irreplaceable. However this is also practiced in West African Religions.

Also absolutely nothing like otherkin bullshit.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Well, you clearly didn't realize that before I pointed it out since you compared the two.

Also absolutely nothing like otherkin bullshit.

Complete strawman.

Please, tell me where I actually made a connection between the two. The only thing I actually did was point out what shaministic religions do.

[Gauthier]

First black are outraged LGBTs are comparing their activism to the Civil Rights Movement, and now LGBTs are outraged that... wait, are Otherkin actually trying to start up a political movement to gain recognition or this is just the latest acceptable version of Die Furfaggot ranting?

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

First black are outraged LGBTs are comparing their activism to the Civil Rights Movement, and now LGBTs are outraged that... wait, are Otherkin actually trying to start up a political movement to gain recognition or this is just the latest acceptable version of Die Furfaggot ranting?

I doubt it'd go anywhere in the first place.

[Dyakovo]

Well, you clearly didn't realize that before I pointed it out since you compared the two.

Also absolutely nothing like otherkin bullshit.

Complete strawman.

Please, tell me where I actually made a connection between the two. The only thing I actually did was point out what shaministic religions do.

In a thread about otherkin, right after talking about how old the otherkin concept was....

[Rikatan]

Die Furfaggot

I was actually taking your post seriously until this part. Whoops, silly me. I forgot it's the famed NS summer.

[Gauthier]

Die Furfaggot

I was actually taking your post seriously until this part. Whoops, silly me. I forgot it's the famed NS summer.

Did you read the post in its entirety or did you just focus immediately on the "Die furfaggot" part without trying to contextualize?

[The Blaatschapen]

I'm a piece of feces in the litter box! I'M NOT FRIGGIN CRAZY!!!!

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[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Complete strawman.

Please, tell me where I actually made a connection between the two. The only thing I actually did was point out what shaministic religions do.

In a thread about otherkin, right after talking about how old the otherkin concept was....

Otherkin *term*. The concept of spiritualistic tutelary deity and identification is completely different. I'd hope you'd know.

I guess not.