Otherkin

[Ararat Mountain]

Again, you're asking me to explain how I know gravity is true without saying "Because objects fall".
-Believing that you are an animal in a human body is identical to believing that you are, say "Jesus Christ" or "The Pharaoh of Egypt" or "King David of Jerusalem"
-Believing any of those things is a major indication of Schizophrenia
-Schizophrenia is a mental disorder
QED: Believing that you are an animal in a human body is a mental disorder.

People believing those things have social lives.
Otherkin aren't necessarily Schizophrenic. Don't use words you don't understand.

"social lives" don't use words you don't understand.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Eh, like any other hobby, escapist fantasy, or spiritual system, there's always going to be some people who take it way too far, and plenty of other people who are sane and reasonable about it.

This, really^

I don't know. I kinda understand the desire to fantasize about you being an elf or a unicorn (I mean, I am a fan of wearing cat ears, but I know I'm not a cat) or whatever else it is otherkin think they are but eh, how one takes the fantasy and believes it to be real is too much for me.

However, to each their own and if they're not hurting anyone by doing this, more power to them and good luck.

[Ascended Rome]

Ted Kaczynsky writes and speaks human languages, but I don't foresee him doing too well in conversation.

You're talking to a ship... Is that fundamentally different from talking to a horse?

This is an OOC discussion, don't derail it for the sake of pissing someone off.

[Scomagia]

People believing those things have social lives.
Otherkin aren't necessarily Schizophrenic. Don't use words you don't understand.

"social lives" don't use words you don't understand.

Another useless post. Boy, you are on a roll today.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

Considering these people still write and speak in human languages, I don't see why not.

I identify as a house fly, would you like to be friends?
See...

Is that how you think human beings introduce themselves? "Hello, I identify as a human, would you like to be friends?"

[Scomagia]

People believing those things have social lives.
Otherkin aren't necessarily Schizophrenic. Don't use words you don't understand.

"Schizophrenia is a serious disorder which affects how a person thinks, feels and acts. Someone with schizophrenia may have difficulty distinguishing between what is real and what is imaginary; may be unresponsive or withdrawn; and may have difficulty expressing normal emotions in social situations." - Mental Health America

Are you telling me that believing you are an animal in a human body is not necessarily an indication that one "has difficulty distinguishing between what is real and what is imaginary"?

It is no more an indication of Schizophrenia than believing that you are a soul in a human body.

[USS Monitor]

Considering these people still write and speak in human languages, I don't see why not.

I identify as a house fly, would you like to be friends?
See...

As long as you don't harass my crew, I don't see why I should have a problem with a house fly.

[Scomagia]

I identify as a house fly, would you like to be friends?
See...

Is that how you think human beings introduce themselves? "Hello, I identify as a human, would you like to be friends?"

Incidentally, my response to them would be: "Sure."

[Ararat Mountain]

I identify as a house fly, would you like to be friends?
See...

Is that how you think human beings introduce themselves? "Hello, I identify as a human, would you like to be friends?"

Well, you know. Otherkin are not "human" so, yeah

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

Considering these people still write and speak in human languages, I don't see why not.

Ted Kaczynsky writes and speaks human languages, but I don't foresee him doing too well in conversation.

ITT: kids on Tumblr=the Unabomber

[Scomagia]

Ted Kaczynsky writes and speaks human languages, but I don't foresee him doing too well in conversation.

ITT: kids on Tumblr=the Unabomber

I bet Kaczynsky would be a nice enough conversational partner. He's well educated. His fault was expressing his political and social views through violence.

[Ascended Rome]

"Schizophrenia is a serious disorder which affects how a person thinks, feels and acts. Someone with schizophrenia may have difficulty distinguishing between what is real and what is imaginary; may be unresponsive or withdrawn; and may have difficulty expressing normal emotions in social situations." - Mental Health America

Are you telling me that believing you are an animal in a human body is not necessarily an indication that one "has difficulty distinguishing between what is real and what is imaginary"?

It is no more an indication of Schizophrenia than believing that you are a soul in a human body.

This is not a belief system, they don't have "spirit animals", these people actually believe that they are animals in a human body. How are you not getting this? If you honestly think that the belief in a soul is comparable to this, then you need to actually talk to a religious person because clearly you have been getting your opinions from overly-edgy and ignorant anti-theist groups.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

Is that how you think human beings introduce themselves? "Hello, I identify as a human, would you like to be friends?"

Well, you know. Otherkin are not "human" so, yeah

That doesn't answer my question. See, I don't even think otherkin is a real thing, I think it's a fad. I'm just objecting to the fact that you don't seem to get how people interact on a daily basis. I don't state personal details like that to random strangers.

Is that how you think human beings introduce themselves? "Hello, I identify as a human, would you like to be friends?"

Incidentally, my response to them would be: "Sure."

I would be suspicious that they were a robot or alien masquerading as human, tbh, because humans generally don't feel the need to constantly affirm their own species.

[Ascended Rome]

Ted Kaczynsky writes and speaks human languages, but I don't foresee him doing too well in conversation.

ITT: kids on Tumblr=the Unabomber

Have you actually been on tumblr? I can find any number of comments from people on there advocating for killing the people who "trigger" them.

[Ararat Mountain]

Ted Kaczynsky writes and speaks human languages, but I don't foresee him doing too well in conversation.

ITT: kids on Tumblr=the Unabomber

ITT: kids on tumblr=dogs

[Scomagia]

Well, you know. Otherkin are not "human" so, yeah

That doesn't answer my question. See, I don't even think otherkin is a real thing, I think it's a fad. I'm just objecting to the fact that you don't seem to get how people interact on a daily basis. I don't state personal details like that to random strangers.

Incidentally, my response to them would be: "Sure."

I would be suspicious that they were a robot or alien masquerading as human, tbh, because humans generally don't feel the need to constantly affirm their own species.

Yeah, that would be a concern. Still, I'd be polite until they started beeping or something.

[TotallyNotEvilLand]

It's just something weird that people on the internet do. At least for the most part they're harmless.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

ITT: kids on Tumblr=the Unabomber

Have you actually been on tumblr? I can find any number of comments from people on there advocating for killing the people who "trigger" them.

Are you surprised? It's friggin' Tumblr, home of the overreaction.

[Dyakovo]

The world is full of wyverns, elves, and human toasters walking amongst us. That is the world according to otherkin. This topic entered my mind involving the idea of species dysphoria as it occasionally involves species like elves or dragons that never existed in real life in the first place. So NSG, what's your opinion on the topic of otherkin?

My opinion is sort of mixed as I can see identifying as a species that actually exists in real life or the fossil records, but I have no idea how a person can be elven-kin and claim to be allergic to iron.

"Otherkin" is a bunch of horseshit peddled by people who are dissatisfied with their lives and who cannot comprehend the difference between species and gender.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

ITT: kids on Tumblr=the Unabomber

Have you actually been on tumblr? I can find any number of comments from people on there advocating for killing the people who "trigger" them.

You can also find people better suited to stormfront. See, the thing about a free blog-hosting service is that you can find most any kind of person if you try.

ITT: kids on Tumblr=the Unabomber

ITT: kids on tumblr=dogs

That may be the only time in this thread where your "reverse the other person's phrasing on them" thing has been a little bit clever.

[Ascended Rome]

The world is full of wyverns, elves, and human toasters walking amongst us. That is the world according to otherkin. This topic entered my mind involving the idea of species dysphoria as it occasionally involves species like elves or dragons that never existed in real life in the first place. So NSG, what's your opinion on the topic of otherkin?

My opinion is sort of mixed as I can see identifying as a species that actually exists in real life or the fossil records, but I have no idea how a person can be elven-kin and claim to be allergic to iron.

"Otherkin" is a bunch of horseshit peddled by people who are dissatisfied with their lives and who cannot comprehend the difference between species and gender.

Not entirely sure how gender factors into this...

[Keyboard Warriors]

The world is full of wyverns, elves, and human toasters walking amongst us. That is the world according to otherkin. This topic entered my mind involving the idea of species dysphoria as it occasionally involves species like elves or dragons that never existed in real life in the first place. So NSG, what's your opinion on the topic of otherkin?

My opinion is sort of mixed as I can see identifying as a species that actually exists in real life or the fossil records, but I have no idea how a person can be elven-kin and claim to be allergic to iron.

"Otherkin" is a bunch of horseshit peddled by people who are dissatisfied with their lives and who cannot comprehend the difference between species and gender.

^ This.

It's nothing more than exploitation and debasement of modern progressive views on transgenderism and other genders outside the binary. People who are "otherkin" are either accidentally or deliberately equating differences in their personality with being born in the wrong body.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

"Otherkin" is a bunch of horseshit peddled by people who are dissatisfied with their lives and who cannot comprehend the difference between species and gender.

Not entirely sure how gender factors into this...

Otherkin have tried repeatedly and unsuccessfully to ride on the coattails of the transgender rights movement, claiming similar issues.

[Gauthier]

ITT: kids on Tumblr=the Unabomber

I bet Kaczynsky would be a nice enough conversational partner. He's well educated. His fault was expressing his political and social views through violence.

Being on his Christmas List has to be a real nerve-wracker.

[USS Monitor]

You're talking to a ship... Is that fundamentally different from talking to a horse?

This is an OOC discussion, don't derail it for the sake of pissing someone off.

I'm not derailing anything. It is consistent with my posts from earlier in the thread, my posting history from other threads, and my name. It was quite obvious that I was posting as the Monitor, and yet you still had no issue talking to me until now.