Otherkin

[Scomagia]

Their internal perception may be dysfunctional, though the same can be said for pretty much anyone who believes in things that we do not or identifies in a way that in not "normal". External perception (Hearing, sight, smell, etc.) is unimpaired in these individuals, as are their behavior and social interaction.

They aren't insane.

They legitimately believe that they are animals in a human body, they are very much insane in the same way that any form of Schizophrenia would be. You can't claim that believing you are the Pharaoh or Jesus qualifies as insanity, but believing that you are an animal does not.

They are no more insane than religious people.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

How in god's name could believing that you are an animal be good for mental health?

Probably because you're an animal.

Speaking technically, we're all animals in this thread. Except the one steam ship, that is.

[Jumalariik]

No, it's not "colorful language". These are people who legitimately believe that they are those animals, who dress up as them and claim that they have "species dysphoria" and that they are another species of animal trapped in a human body.

Well, they dress up like them, and talk about having a wolf's spirit. So does Rob Stark.

I have no idea who Rob Stark is.

[Scomagia]

Until you get a degree in the field of mental health, no one gives a fuck what you think is good or bad for mental health.

How in god's name could believing that you are an animal be good for mental health?

It doesn't work that way. You tell me how it is bad.

[Ascended Rome]

How in god's name could believing that you are an animal be good for mental health?

Probably because you're an animal.

Animal as in non-human, not animal as in "under the classification Animalia". We're talking people who believe that they are wolves, bears, giraffes, dragons, fish, etc.

[Empire of Narnia]

Agreed completely. It is not good for your mental health to have such a big delusion.

Until you get a degree in the field of mental health, no one gives a fuck what you think is good or bad for mental health.

Most mental health institutions have been infiltrated by Liberals who alter the definitions of what is mental illness to save face with their Liberal college friends.

[Mysterious Stranger 2]

Well, they dress up like them, and talk about having a wolf's spirit. So does Rob Stark.

I have no idea who Rob Stark is.

Pardon me while I sacrifice you to Rh'llor for heresy.

[Scomagia]

Until you get a degree in the field of mental health, no one gives a fuck what you think is good or bad for mental health.

Most mental health institutions have been infiltrated by Liberals who alter the definitions of what is mental illness to save face with their Liberal college friends.

Stop lying.

[Ascended Rome]

How in god's name could believing that you are an animal be good for mental health?

It doesn't work that way. You tell me how it is bad.

You're asking me to explain how I know gravity exists without saying "Objects fall down" as an answer. If someone falsely believes that they are an animal in a human body then it is obviously, obviously an indication of insanity, mental impairment, or a broken psyche.

[The Serbian Empire]

And suddenly I fear we're not in Kansas anymore.

[Scomagia]

It doesn't work that way. You tell me how it is bad.

You're asking me to explain how I know gravity exists without saying "Objects fall down" as an answer. If someone falsely believes that they are an animal in a human body then it is obviously, obviously an indication of insanity, mental impairment, or a broken psyche.

And you hold the same position towards people who believe they are an ethereal entity in human form?

[Scomagia]

Most mental health institutions have been infiltrated by Liberals who alter the definitions of what is mental illness to save face with their Liberal college friends.

And suddenly I fear we're not in Kansas anymore.

Just Narnia telling lies about liberal conspiracies. Nothing new.

[Ascended Rome]

You're asking me to explain how I know gravity exists without saying "Objects fall down" as an answer. If someone falsely believes that they are an animal in a human body then it is obviously, obviously an indication of insanity, mental impairment, or a broken psyche.

And you hold the same position towards people who believe they are an ethereal entity in human form?

Firstly, yes

Secondly, if you're trying to turn this around to "Under your definition believing in souls is a form of insanity too" that is not how souls work.

[The Serbian Empire]

And suddenly I fear we're not in Kansas anymore.

Just Narnia telling lies about liberal conspiracies. Nothing new.

Yep, I've got to carry on as the wayward daughter. Lay her weary head to rest, don't you cry no more.

[Scomagia]

And you hold the same position towards people who believe they are an ethereal entity in human form?

Firstly, yes

Secondly, if you're trying to turn this around to "Under your definition believing in souls is a form of insanity too" that is not how souls work.

So the majority of humanity is insane?

And yes, that is exactly how souls work.

[Ararat Mountain]

Give me one good reason why "otherkin" is not a mental disorder. Once you think you're not human, you are no longer part of human society. If you think you're an animal, go lock yourself in a zoo, or better yet, run into the savannahs and mingle with the other lions.

[Scomagia]

Give me one good reason why "otherkin" is not a mental disorder. Once you think you're not human, you are no longer part of human society. If you think you're an animal, go lock yourself in a zoo, or better yet, run into the savannahs and mingle with the other lions.

The onus is on you. Prove it's a mental disorder.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

Firstly, yes

Secondly, if you're trying to turn this around to "Under your definition believing in souls is a form of insanity too" that is not how souls work.

So the majority of humanity is insane?

And yes, that is exactly how souls work.

Tbf, I think it's less "ethereal being in human form" as it is "ethereal being temporarily inhabiting flesh puppet".

[Scomagia]

So the majority of humanity is insane?

And yes, that is exactly how souls work.

Tbf, I think it's less "ethereal being in human form" as it is "ethereal being temporarily inhabiting flesh puppet".

Functionally no difference.

[Ararat Mountain]

They legitimately believe that they are animals in a human body, they are very much insane in the same way that any form of Schizophrenia would be. You can't claim that believing you are the Pharaoh or Jesus qualifies as insanity, but believing that you are an animal does not.

They are no more insane than religious people.

And here we have, a degenerate.

Because if you think you are a; goat, bird, frog, elephant, etc. You are automatically at the level of intelligent, helpful, and important members of society?

[Ascended Rome]

Firstly, yes

Secondly, if you're trying to turn this around to "Under your definition believing in souls is a form of insanity too" that is not how souls work.

So the majority of humanity is insane?

And yes, that is exactly how souls work.

No, it isn't. The concept of the soul is that there is an immortal life-essence that represents human consciousness and dwells in the body. Someone who believes in souls doesn't actually believe that they are a soul, they believe that they are a human and that their actions will determine the future transference of the soul. Hindus believe that behavior determines what whether they will be reincarnated into a different caste, but they don't believe that they functionally are a soul. Christians believe that behavior determines whether their soul will be sent to heaven or hell, but they don't believe that they functionally are a soul. The soul isn't a being in and of itself, it's a metaphysical reflection of humanity, which separates it from, say, believing that you are a wolf in a human body. Otherkin aren't just people who believe in spirit-animals, they believe that they are animals, but in human bodies.

[Scomagia]

So the majority of humanity is insane?

And yes, that is exactly how souls work.

No, it isn't. The concept of the soul is that there is an immortal life-essence that represents human consciousness and dwells in the body. Someone who believes in souls doesn't actually believe that they are a soul, they believe that they are a human and that their actions will determine the future transference of the soul. Hindus believe that behavior determines what whether they will be reincarnated into a different caste, but they don't believe that they functionally are a soul. Christians believe that behavior determines whether their soul will be sent to heaven or hell, but they don't believe that they functionally are a soul. The soul isn't a being in and of itself, it's a metaphysical reflection of humanity, which separates it from, say, believing that you are a wolf in a human body. Otherkin aren't just people who believe in spirit-animals, they believe that they are animals, but in human bodies.

That's BS. People literally believe they are the soul. The soul is their consciousness.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

They are no more insane than religious people.

And here we have, a degenerate.

Because if you think you are a; goat, bird, frog, elephant, etc. You are automatically at the level of intelligent, helpful, and important members of society?

Top marks for "deliberate misinterpetation", pal. Yes, people who believe themselves to be animals are no less functional and intelligent than people who believe that there's an invisible sky fair demanding you love him with a gun to your head.

[Scomagia]

And here we have, a degenerate.

Because if you think you are a; goat, bird, frog, elephant, etc. You are automatically at the level of intelligent, helpful, and important members of society?

Top marks for "deliberate misinterpetation", pal. Yes, people who believe themselves to be animals are no less functional and intelligent than people who believe that there's an invisible sky fair demanding you love him with a gun to your head.

Don't give him attention.

[Mysterious Stranger 2]

So the majority of humanity is insane?

And yes, that is exactly how souls work.

No, it isn't. The concept of the soul is that there is an immortal life-essence that represents human consciousness and dwells in the body. Someone who believes in souls doesn't actually believe that they are a soul, they believe that they are a human and that their actions will determine the future transference of the soul. Hindus believe that behavior determines what whether they will be reincarnated into a different caste, but they don't believe that they functionally are a soul. Christians believe that behavior determines whether their soul will be sent to heaven or hell, but they don't believe that they functionally are a soul. The soul isn't a being in and of itself, it's a metaphysical reflection of humanity, which separates it from, say, believing that you are a wolf in a human body. Otherkin aren't just people who believe in spirit-animals, they believe that they are animals, but in human bodies.

Speak for yourself, I'm a soul in a fleshsuit.