Otherkin

[Scomagia]

Do note, I didn't intend to quote you. You clicked the quote button before I caught my error.

Oh. I will edit mine out then, sorry for the confusion.

It was wholly my error.

[Mysterious Stranger 2]

Don't care, not my problem.

[Jumalariik]

People read LOTR on drugs too often.


No, but in all seriousness, people need to just look at themselves in the mirror and say "How far have I just gone?" Sometimes we just need to reel ourselves out from the swell.

I mean just think about it for a second. If you think you're Napoleon, you're insane. If you think you're a dragon, you're not? There are more real Napoleons than real dragons. (there was 1 Napoleon, 0 dragons)
You know what? I wish I could be a viking. Have big curly hair and a beard, a norse axe, mead and some cosmic boar meat. I sometimes think being Smaug would be cool. That does not mean I am those things or should view myself as those things. All this Otherkin shit does is that it makes a lot of rational people question the validity of transgenderism. I mean I support the rights of transgenders, but I think that somebody who identifies as another specie needs mental help to be honest. If you are "Otherkin," please look for help. I'm serious, it is not healthy for the mind.

[Ararat Mountain]

Wtf? Either your human or you're not posting on this website! Pretty simple.

[Ararat Mountain]

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[Scomagia]

People read LOTR on drugs too often.


No, but in all seriousness, people need to just look at themselves in the mirror and say "How far have I just gone?" Sometimes we just need to reel ourselves out from the swell.

I mean just think about it for a second. If you think you're Napoleon, you're insane. If you think you're a dragon, you're not? There are more real Napoleons than real dragons. (there was 1 Napoleon, 0 dragons)
You know what? I wish I could be a viking. Have big curly hair and a beard, a norse axe, mead and some cosmic boar meat. I sometimes think being Smaug would be cool. That does not mean I am those things or should view myself as those things. All this Otherkin shit does is that it makes a lot of rational people question the validity of transgenderism. I mean I support the rights of transgenders, but I think that somebody who identifies as another specie needs mental help to be honest. If you are "Otherkin," please look for help. I'm serious, it is not healthy for the mind.

Insane is a word with a very specific meaning. Don't use it if you don't understand that meaning.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

I'm suspicious of otherkin because they're never something shitty. It's always something in the vein of "I'm a dragon", "I'm a wolf." It's never anything like a dung beetle or a skunk. That makes me think it's just people wanting to feel special.

[Ararat Mountain]

People read LOTR on drugs too often.


No, but in all seriousness, people need to just look at themselves in the mirror and say "How far have I just gone?" Sometimes we just need to reel ourselves out from the swell.

I mean just think about it for a second. If you think you're Napoleon, you're insane. If you think you're a dragon, you're not? There are more real Napoleons than real dragons. (there was 1 Napoleon, 0 dragons)
You know what? I wish I could be a viking. Have big curly hair and a beard, a norse axe, mead and some cosmic boar meat. I sometimes think being Smaug would be cool. That does not mean I am those things or should view myself as those things. All this Otherkin shit does is that it makes a lot of rational people question the validity of transgenderism. I mean I support the rights of transgenders, but I think that somebody who identifies as another specie needs mental help to be honest. If you are "Otherkin," please look for help. I'm serious, it is not healthy for the mind.

Insane is a word with a very specific meaning. Don't use it if you don't understand that meaning.

in·sane
inˈsān
adjective
"in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill."
Other kin pretty much matches that.

[Jumalariik]

Insane is a word with a very specific meaning. Don't use it if you don't understand that meaning.

in·sane
inˈsān
adjective
"in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill."
Other kin pretty much matches that.

Agreed completely. It is not good for your mental health to have such a big delusion.

[New Grestin]

People read LOTR on drugs too often. :p


No, but in all seriousness, people need to just look at themselves in the mirror and say "How far have I just gone?" Sometimes we just need to reel ourselves out from the swell.

I mean just think about it for a second. If you think you're Napoleon, you're insane. If you think you're a dragon, you're not? There are more real Napoleons than real dragons. (there was 1 Napoleon, 0 dragons)
You know what? I wish I could be a viking. Have big curly hair and a beard, a norse axe, mead and some cosmic boar meat. I sometimes think being Smaug would be cool. That does not mean I am those things or should view myself as those things. All this Otherkin shit does is that it makes a lot of rational people question the validity of transgenderism. I mean I support the rights of transgenders, but I think that somebody who identifies as another specie needs mental help to be honest. If you are "Otherkin," please look for help. I'm serious, it is not healthy for the mind. :(

I'm sure there may be at least some of them that suffer from mental illness, but I think the problem is more "Special Snowflake" Syndrome than anything.

These are people obsessed with being super-unique and special because that's the only way to escape the reality that they're just as mundane as the people they're trying to differentiate from.

You are not a bear, you are not a fictional character, you are not a toaster.

You are a collection of cells surrounding a central brain mass created from millions of years of evolution, just like everyone else. Deal with it.

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[Mysterious Stranger 2]

in·sane
inˈsān
adjective
"in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill."
Other kin pretty much matches that.

Agreed completely. It is not good for your mental health to have such a big delusion.

Is it really a delusion if I say:
"I am thunder."
I think it's just colorful language. Why should
"I am a wolf, I am a dragon." Be any different?

[Ascended Rome]

I'm suspicious of otherkin because they're never something shitty. It's always something in the vein of "I'm a dragon", "I'm a wolf." It's never anything like a dung beetle or a skunk. That makes me think it's just people wanting to feel special.

Are you implying that it would be any more of a realistic belief if they did think they were a dung beetle or skunk?

[USS Monitor]

Wtf? Either your human or you're not posting on this website! Pretty simple.

Really? I am human? That is very odd. I do not think it is normal for humans to have gun turrets and propellers.

[Ascended Rome]

Agreed completely. It is not good for your mental health to have such a big delusion.

Is it really a delusion if I say:
"I am thunder."
I think it's just colorful language. Why should
"I am a wolf, I am a dragon." Be any different?

No, it's not "colorful language". These are people who legitimately believe that they are those animals, who dress up as them and claim that they have "species dysphoria" and that they are another species of animal trapped in a human body.

[Mysterious Stranger 2]

Is it really a delusion if I say:
"I am thunder."
I think it's just colorful language. Why should
"I am a wolf, I am a dragon." Be any different?

No, it's not "colorful language". These are people who legitimately believe that they are those animals, who dress up as them and claim that they have "species dysphoria" and that they are another species of animal trapped in a human body.

Well, they dress up like them, and talk about having a wolf's spirit. So does Rob Stark.

[Scomagia]

Insane is a word with a very specific meaning. Don't use it if you don't understand that meaning.

in·sane
inˈsān
adjective
"in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill."
Other kin pretty much matches that.

Their internal perception may be dysfunctional, though the same can be said for pretty much anyone who believes in things that we do not or identifies in a way that in not "normal". External perception (Hearing, sight, smell, etc.) is unimpaired in these individuals, as are their behavior and social interaction.

They aren't insane.

[Achesia]

God the werid things I learn about on NSG....

[Ascended Rome]

No, it's not "colorful language". These are people who legitimately believe that they are those animals, who dress up as them and claim that they have "species dysphoria" and that they are another species of animal trapped in a human body.

Well, they dress up like them, and talk about having a wolf's spirit. So does Rob Stark.

I don't recall the episode where Rob Stark put on a fursuit and ran around barking at people.

[Scomagia]

in·sane
inˈsān
adjective
"in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill."
Other kin pretty much matches that.

Agreed completely. It is not good for your mental health to have such a big delusion.

Until you get a degree in the field of mental health, no one gives a fuck what you think is good or bad for mental health.

[Ascended Rome]

in·sane
inˈsān
adjective
"in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill."
Other kin pretty much matches that.

Their internal perception may be dysfunctional, though the same can be said for pretty much anyone who believes in things that we do not or identifies in a way that in not "normal". External perception (Hearing, sight, smell, etc.) is unimpaired in these individuals, as are their behavior and social interaction.

They aren't insane.

They legitimately believe that they are animals in a human body, they are very much insane in the same way that any form of Schizophrenia would be. You can't claim that believing you are the Pharaoh or Jesus qualifies as insanity, but believing that you are an animal does not.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

I'm suspicious of otherkin because they're never something shitty. It's always something in the vein of "I'm a dragon", "I'm a wolf." It's never anything like a dung beetle or a skunk. That makes me think it's just people wanting to feel special.

Are you implying that it would be any more of a realistic belief if they did think they were a dung beetle or skunk?

I'm saying I would be more willing to buy it if there was variation. If people legitimately believed themselves to be the wrong species, then they wouldn't always be cool animals like big cats or mythical creatures. Some of them would be warthogs or slow lorises or any number of boring animals. Most would be invertebrates, statistically speaking.

If being otherkin did anything other than make people cool (for a very group-specific value of "cool"), I might be willing to believe it. But it doesn't, so I don't.

[Ascended Rome]

Agreed completely. It is not good for your mental health to have such a big delusion.

Until you get a degree in the field of mental health, no one gives a fuck what you think is good or bad for mental health.

How in god's name could believing that you are an animal be good for mental health?

[Mysterious Stranger 2]

Well, they dress up like them, and talk about having a wolf's spirit. So does Rob Stark.

I don't recall the episode where Rob Stark put on a fursuit and ran around barking at people.

Not a true song of ice and fire fan then, I see. The whole stark family consists of wargs, who take over the bodies of their pet direwolves multiple times over the course of the series.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

Well, they dress up like them, and talk about having a wolf's spirit. So does Rob Stark.

I don't recall the episode where Rob Stark put on a fursuit and ran around barking at people.

It's in the books.
Edit: wait, shit, yeah, it is in the books. I totally forgot.

[Mysterious Stranger 2]

Until you get a degree in the field of mental health, no one gives a fuck what you think is good or bad for mental health.

How in god's name could believing that you are an animal be good for mental health?

Probably because you're an animal.