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Postby Calimera II » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:40 pm

CSN Founder wrote:
New Skaaneland wrote:"Transvestite" is the more commonly accepted term.

For what? Crossdressing? Yes. But transgender/transsexual mean completely different things.

Who cares? Both terms are used interchangeably.

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Postby Aelex » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:40 pm

Nosferal wrote:
I am a person interested in studying forms of political activism, both online and in regular platforms.
I registered to this website after getting the reference from Mr.Barry's book, about a reverse 1984, or about a place where the role of the State is too minor to prevent abuse by corporations.

That was the angle and topic choice I was expecting. So I register, and find out that there is a very significant content related to sex-identity politics. Since the finding isn't at all what I first expected, I figured I would open a question to get a better understanding.

In no way I am interested in debating how a tiny little word variates from another tiny little word, transvestite is the word I use for people who dress like the other sex. Simple.

The question of the thread is: Is NationStates oriented towards sexual identitarism, and if so, why is that? After all, the author and creator of the website doesn't seem that vested in the subject.

Trying to understand entails asking questions. Rants aren't answers.

What a blablant and stupid speech to regognise that you know shit and are transphobic. You could have done the same in one single sentence.
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Postby Nosferal » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:40 pm

Mysterious Stranger 2 wrote:
New Skaaneland wrote:"Transvestite" is the more commonly accepted term.

In what universe?


In the English-speaking world, as I am well acquainted with Britain, the United States and have a moderate knowledge of Australian mannerisms.

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Postby CSN Founder » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:41 pm

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Togeria wrote:And can you stop calling them a transvestite? They identify transgender.

I am sure some call themselves transvestites. It isn't an insult.

It can be an insult just as calling someone homosexual when they aren't.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:41 pm

Aelex wrote:
Nosferal wrote:
I am a person interested in studying forms of political activism, both online and in regular platforms.
I registered to this website after getting the reference from Mr.Barry's book, about a reverse 1984, or about a place where the role of the State is too minor to prevent abuse by corporations.

That was the angle and topic choice I was expecting. So I register, and find out that there is a very significant content related to sex-identity politics. Since the finding isn't at all what I first expected, I figured I would open a question to get a better understanding.

In no way I am interested in debating how a tiny little word variates from another tiny little word, transvestite is the word I use for people who dress like the other sex. Simple.

The question of the thread is: Is NationStates oriented towards sexual identitarism, and if so, why is that? After all, the author and creator of the website doesn't seem that vested in the subject.

Trying to understand entails asking questions. Rants aren't answers.

What a blablant and stupid speech to regognise that you know shit and are transphobic. You could have done the same in one single sentence.

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Postby Honey Fungus » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:41 pm

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Postby Risottia » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:42 pm

Nosferal wrote:I have noticed a staggering amount of people posting their pics wearing dresses and wearing make-up, even going as far as to label themselves "female" even though they're clearly dudes with stubble.

Does this site have some special thing that caters to that demographic?

Well, I bloody well hope so.
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Postby New Skaaneland » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:42 pm

Mysterious Stranger 2 wrote:
New Skaaneland wrote:"Transvestite" is the more commonly accepted term.

In what universe?

There can only be one universe. "uni-" derives from the latin word for "one". One world, which includes everything.
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Postby CSN Founder » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:43 pm

Calimera II wrote:
CSN Founder wrote:For what? Crossdressing? Yes. But transgender/transsexual mean completely different things.

Who cares? Both terms are used interchangeably.

No, that'd be like using straight/homsexual interchangeably.
CSN Founder wrote:There's actually a huge difference between transvestite and transgender/transsexual. They're not the same by far.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transvestite
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transgender
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transsexual
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Postby Risottia » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:43 pm

New Skaaneland wrote:
Mysterious Stranger 2 wrote:In what universe?

There can only be one universe. "uni-" derives from the latin word for "one". One world, which includes everything.

Then again, multiverse.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:43 pm

I'd prefer that to a bigot/willfully ignorant conservative/cishet white reactionary haven.
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Postby Calimera II » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:43 pm

CSN Founder wrote:
Calimera II wrote:I am sure some call themselves transvestites. It isn't an insult.

It can be an insult just as calling someone homosexual when they aren't.


Transvestite and transgender are often used interchangeably.

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Postby Greater Fennoscandia » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:43 pm

Surprising that a forum supposedly so accepting etc. not knowing the difference between a transgender and a transvestite.

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Postby New Tuva SSR » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:43 pm

We do have MANY LGBTQ people on this website.I don't know why.
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Postby CSN Founder » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:43 pm

New Skaaneland wrote:
Mysterious Stranger 2 wrote:In what universe?

There can only be one universe. "uni-" derives from the latin word for "one". One world, which includes everything.

Multiverse theory disagrees with you, besides it was metaphorical.
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Postby Nosferal » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:43 pm

CSN Founder wrote:See here:


Wiktionary definitions about sex identity politics, are in your opinion an answer to the question: "Why is NationStates a transvestite/crossdresser haven?"

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Postby Calimera II » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:44 pm

CSN Founder wrote:
Calimera II wrote:Who cares? Both terms are used interchangeably.

No, that'd be like using straight/homsexual interchangeably.
CSN Founder wrote:There's actually a huge difference between transvestite and transgender/transsexual. They're not the same by far.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transvestite
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transgender
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transsexual


And still many people use both terms for the same thing.

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Postby Courlany » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:44 pm

Ohhhhh snapp, ohhhhh snap! So many users are gettin' dissed on this thread! Ohhhhhhhh damnnnn! :clap:

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Postby CSN Founder » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:44 pm

Calimera II wrote:
CSN Founder wrote:It can be an insult just as calling someone homosexual when they aren't.


Transvestite and transgender are often used interchangeably.

Still ignoring what I already posted three times?
CSN Founder wrote:
Calimera II wrote:Who cares? Both terms are used interchangeably.

No, that'd be like using straight/homsexual interchangeably.
CSN Founder wrote:There's actually a huge difference between transvestite and transgender/transsexual. They're not the same by far.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transvestite
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transgender
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transsexual
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Postby Lordieth » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:44 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Merizoc wrote:I'm sorry we're too accepting for you.



Lordieth wrote:
Yeah. Tolerance and acceptance. Kthxbai.


Oh darn, I'm cutting myself on all this edginess.


What? You think his OP is deserving of a serious response? I'm simply treating it with the seriousness it deserves. If you want edgy, re-read the OP again.
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Postby CSN Founder » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:45 pm

Calimera II wrote:
CSN Founder wrote:No, that'd be like using straight/homsexual interchangeably.


And still many people use both terms for the same thing.

That'd be like using "homosexual" to mean "bisexual" or "straight". Blatantly wrong.
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Postby Calimera II » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:45 pm

CSN Founder wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
Transvestite and transgender are often used interchangeably.

Still ignoring what I already posted three times?
CSN Founder wrote:No, that'd be like using straight/homsexual interchangeably.


No.

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Postby Calimera II » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:45 pm

CSN Founder wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
And still many people use both terms for the same thing.

That'd be like using "homosexual" to mean "bisexual" or "straight". Blatantly wrong.

K. Many people still use both terms for the same thing.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:46 pm

Mysterious Stranger 2 wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:I think your looking for something that isn't there. Nosferal was just asking if there are really as many transgendar/transvestites on this site as it seems.

At least, that whats I gather from rereading his OP many times, and even then, as a transvestite, I'm not insulted.

"going as far as to label themselves "female" even though they're clearly dudes"
everything I know about the subject says that that's ridiculously offensive. How is it not?

Indeed, I may look more male than female currently, but there's nothing surgery, HRT, and practicing with my voice to make a successful transition where you'd not know I wasn't born female unless I told you or gave me a DNA test.

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Postby New Skaaneland » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:46 pm

Risottia wrote:
New Skaaneland wrote:There can only be one universe. "uni-" derives from the latin word for "one". One world, which includes everything.

Then again, multiverse.

I haven't heard of that term outside the Nationstates forums and it's an idea which is fundamentally wrong. As great as the universe is we could never hope to explore all of it, but there is only one.
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