Dating outside of your ethnicity

[Mavorpen]

You are of course, but you seem to think this matters somehow?

It matters about as much as your ramblings about being free to hold your opinions/beliefs when I haven't seen any significant amount of people say anything otherwise.

By the way, never heard of the socratic method I assume if asking questions is somehow bad.

You've never heard of not attacking straw men, have you?

[Laerod]

Why doesn't anybody think about the poor racists and how this hurts their feelings? ;_;

Nice non sequitur man. You seem to think calling someone a racist is a trump card, after which you don't need to address anything they said in any way. Even the implication of someone being a racist has the same effect and when "racist" basically means anything you want it to mean, this whole exercise becomes even more ridiculous.

Generally speaking, preference for one "race" over the other is racist, though rather mild and hardly intolerable. People have personal preferences regarding whom their attracted to and subconscious, unintentional racism isn't inherently unethical behavior.

Continued whining about how you're the victim because people are calling it for what it is, however, is dipping into the reprehensible part of racism. People that celebrate their "race" and want to "preserve" their culture and ethnicity are typically conscious racists that deserve the condemnation they're complaining about.

[Greater Fennoscandia]

You've never heard of not attacking straw men, have you?

You never answered the questions, just "probably because I need to ask".
How did I misrepresent you?

Generally speaking, preference for one "race" over the other is racist, though rather mild and hardly intolerable. People have personal preferences regarding whom their attracted to and subconscious, unintentional racism isn't inherently unethical behavior.

Continued whining about how you're the victim because people are calling it for what it is, however, is dipping into the reprehensible part of racism. People that celebrate their "race" and want to "preserve" their culture and ethnicity are typically conscious racists that deserve the condemnation they're complaining about.

I never whined about being a victim and you are making a lot of assumptions based on a few simple questions which you refused to answer.
I guess you would prefer a world with one, global mono- ethnicity and culture, which you are free to do.
However if I would prefer to preserve the worlds diversity, I'm somehow a "racist" now?
If you define racist in that way then I don't see anything wrong with it.

Can I ask you what is your definition of racism is? Also why it is bad? It obviously is, but if it is obvious, it should be easy to explain. We might have different reasons why racism is bad.

[Mavorpen]

You've never heard of not attacking straw men, have you?

You never answered the questions, just "probably because I need to ask".
How did I misrepresent you?

You already answered the first question with the second question, and I answered the second question with "probably." The misrepresentation came from your claim that I argued that asking questions is bad. I did no such thing.

[Filimons]

What do you mean?

Subconscious and unintentional racism is still racism.

In that case, I'm a subconscious and unintentional racist.

[Mavorpen]

However if I would prefer to preserve the worlds diversity, I'm somehow a "racist" now?
If you define racist in that way then I don't see anything wrong with it.

If this is true, then you would be AGAINST exclusion based on race, considering the most diversity is found within race and genetic diversity and variation increases with more reproduction between members of different populations.

[Arumdaum]

Subconscious and unintentional racism is still racism.

In that case, I'm an subconscious and unintentional racist.

If you're against racism, recognizing racism within yourself is better than ignoring it.

[Filimons]

In that case, I'm an subconscious and unintentional racist.

If you're against racism, recognizing racism within yourself is better than ignoring it.

Fair enough but I don't think the fact that I only find white women attractive is of any importance to anyone else. Even if it is in fact “subconscious” and “unintentional” racism it doesn't harm anybody or at least that's what I think.

Edit: Please excuse my grammatical mistake; I wrote “an subconscious” instead of “a subconscious”.

[Joelyria]

In response to the OP's question, yeah I would date anyone regardless of their ethnicity. Really, I hate it when people push that stupid idea that only people from the same race or community as each other should be together. It's an archaic and very ignorant way of thinking, and if I dare say on the internet, racist.

P.S. Sorry for the ranting. It just hit a nerve with me due to personal experiences.

[The Romulan Republic]

Why not?

There's no reason other than racism.

Would you have children with a person who isn't your ethnicity?

I have no particular inclination to have children at all, so probably not. But if you're asking weather I'm worried about keeping my race "pure", fuck no. If anything, I'd consider genetic diversity a good thing.

I personally don't think I would in theory, granted its hard to predict the future, but I'd like to have Portuguese children, hopefully from a Portuguese mother. Not even in racial related theory, I'd have as much trouble as raising half-Spanish children as I would some half-slavic kids.

Why?

For that matter, its interesting that you define children from another race as non-Portuguese. Does Portugal not allow people from racial minorities to be citizens? Because otherwise, you're arbitrarily defining weather someone is really Portuguese based on race, which is racist.

I'd like my children to be of the same heritage as me, having the same cultural group and the same past. I would hope my culture doesn't die out with me, hopefully preserving my lineage.
What about you?

Diversity and change are not inherently bad things. They're how human beings are more than one tribe of hunter-gatherers or something in Africa. For that matter, they're how humans exist at all (see the Theory of Evolution).

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

You are. And we're free to call you a bigot.

I'm a bigot. I prefer white men.

[Mavorpen]

You are. And we're free to call you a bigot.

I'm a bigot. I prefer white men.

So that's why you never call.

[The Cobalt Sky]

I never whined about being a victim

This:

What is exactly wrong in wanting to preserve your culture and ethnicity?
I am led to believe this is racist now, according to this thread?
Am I not free to associate with anyone I wish?

Sounds pretty whiny, and like you think you're a victim.

I guess you would prefer a world with one, global mono- ethnicity and culture, which you are free to do.

I can't speak for Laerod, but I'm pretty certain that's not his point.

However if I would prefer to preserve the worlds diversity, I'm somehow a "racist" now?

I don't think he's talking about assimilation. I think his point is that people can be multi-racial and multi-ethnic. That's also diversity.

[Lleu llaw Gyffes]

I would prefer a White woman, but I am so desperate, that I will fuck any woman who wants me.

[The Cobalt Sky]

I would prefer a White woman, but I am so desperate, that I will fuck any woman who wants me.

That's the sort of honesty I can somehow find it within myself to respect.

[Greater Fennoscandia]

You never answered the questions, just "probably because I need to ask".
How did I misrepresent you?

You already answered the first question with the second question, and I answered the second question with "probably." The misrepresentation came from your claim that I argued that asking questions is bad. I did no such thing.

I'm losing you. If you don't write it out clearly, I can only assume what you mean after which you will again accuse me of strawmanning you.
Preserving my ethnicity and culture is racist according to you. Please explain why.

However if I would prefer to preserve the worlds diversity, I'm somehow a "racist" now?
If you define racist in that way then I don't see anything wrong with it.

If this is true, then you would be AGAINST exclusion based on race, considering the most diversity is found within race and genetic diversity and variation increases with more reproduction between members of different populations.

Yes that is probably true, still would mean that different cultures and ethnicities would disappear even though the genetic diversity within the human species would be higher. So less cultural and ethnic diversity, more species wide diversity on a genetic level.

[Stadenwick]

I know this thread probably more focused in European and basically white people society, but if you want my opinion then I and my family didn't really give a flying care, and since I born and live in Southeast Asia this is a big deal sometime (We're Asian version of Balkan afterall, and ethnocentrism still hold strong due tradition).

But yea, who care, people are people after all. There's not really much difference between a Vietnamese and Portuguese. Beside we live in this world just to conceive a child and ensure our species to not go extinct

[Mavorpen]

I'm losing you. If you don't write it out clearly, I can only assume what you mean after which you will again accuse me of strawmanning you.

I did write it out clearly. It's not my fault you misinterpreted it.

Preserving my ethnicity and culture is racist according to you. Please explain why.

Except I didn't say that. I said probably.

Yes that is probably true, still would mean that different cultures and ethnicities would disappear

No it wouldn't. Pieces of history don't just up and disappear.

even though the genetic diversity within the human species would be higher. So less cultural and ethnic diversity, more species wide diversity on a genetic level.

Again, that's bullocks. All you'd get is new types of cultural and ethnic diversity.

[Redsection]

Why further spoil my blood line, I'm already mixed with so many races,although none belong to the subsaharan ethnicities.

[Greater Fennoscandia]

I never whined about being a victim

This:

What is exactly wrong in wanting to preserve your culture and ethnicity?
I am led to believe this is racist now, according to this thread?
Am I not free to associate with anyone I wish?

Sounds pretty whiny, and like you think you're a victim.

I guess you would prefer a world with one, global mono- ethnicity and culture, which you are free to do.

I can't speak for Laerod, but I'm pretty certain that's not his point.

However if I would prefer to preserve the worlds diversity, I'm somehow a "racist" now?

I don't think he's talking about assimilation. I think his point is that people can be multi-racial and multi-ethnic. That's also diversity.

I'm not really against other people having children with whomever they like, but if we did this on a large enough scale for long enough, a global monoethnicity would be inevitable. I just don't see why people would have a problem for me not to have children outside my ethnicity? Because people here clearly seem to have a problem with it.

[Sun Wukong]

Why further spoil my blood line, I'm already mixed with so many races,although none belong to the subsaharan ethnicities.

I'm pretty sure I could clear up that misconception for you with a DNA test.

[Redsection]

Why further spoil my blood line, I'm already mixed with so many races,although none belong to the subsaharan ethnicities.

I'm pretty sure I could clear up that misconception for you with a DNA test.

Oh pish posh my good fellow, I've already had one.

[Greater Fennoscandia]

I'm losing you. If you don't write it out clearly, I can only assume what you mean after which you will again accuse me of strawmanning you.

I did write it out clearly. It's not my fault you misinterpreted it.

Preserving my ethnicity and culture is racist according to you. Please explain why.

Except I didn't say that. I said probably.

Yes that is probably true, still would mean that different cultures and ethnicities would disappear

No it wouldn't. Pieces of history don't just up and disappear.

even though the genetic diversity within the human species would be higher. So less cultural and ethnic diversity, more species wide diversity on a genetic level.

Again, that's bullocks. All you'd get is new types of cultural and ethnic diversity.

One ethnicity is not less than the hundreds or thousands we have right now?

[The Cobalt Sky]

I'm not really against other people having children with whomever they like, but if we did this on a large enough scale for long enough, a global monoethnicity would be inevitable.

No, it wouldn't. People can be multi-ethnic.

I just don't see why people would have a problem for me not to have children outside my ethnicity?

I don't have a problem with that, and I never said I did.

EDIT: I have a problem with you saying that having children with someone of another ethnicity somehow makes things less diverse.

[Mavorpen]

I'm pretty sure I could clear up that misconception for you with a DNA test.

Oh pish posh my good fellow, I've already had one.

That's not the type of DNA test he's referring to.