The general gun control thread

[Grinning Dragon]

The other issue to his proposal and implementation would the be elimination/repeal of the 2nd Amendment and every state that has a 2nd Amendment equivalent in their state constitutions, just to even get the ball rolling on implementing his idea.
Just recently D.C. has had their bullshit stipulations on firearms struck down. State by state, city by city these types of 2nd Amendment Right delay tactics are being struck down and rightfully so.

[Big Jim P]

The other issue to his proposal would the be elimination/repeal of the 2nd Amendment and every state that has a 2nd Amendment equivalent in their state constitutions, just to even get the ball rolling on implementing his idea.
Just recently D.C. has had their bullshit stipulations on firearms struck down. State by state, city by city these types of 2nd Amendment Right delay tactics are being struck down and rightfully so.

Indeed. We are moving in the right direction on gun control.

[Grinning Dragon]

The other issue to his proposal would the be elimination/repeal of the 2nd Amendment and every state that has a 2nd Amendment equivalent in their state constitutions, just to even get the ball rolling on implementing his idea.
Just recently D.C. has had their bullshit stipulations on firearms struck down. State by state, city by city these types of 2nd Amendment Right delay tactics are being struck down and rightfully so.

Indeed. We are moving in the right direction on gun control.

MMM I love the smell of gun control defeat in the morning, it <sniff> smells like victory.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Indeed. We are moving in the right direction on gun control.

MMM I love the smell of gun control defeat in the morning, it <sniff> smells like victory.

Indeed. I can't wait for the day when I'm allowed to carry my guns wherever I want and point them at whoever I want without being arrested. My personal freedoms are much more important than anybody else's.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Are you serious? How many incidents are there in the US each year of people escalating disputes, domestic or otherwise, by pulling a firearm? Not even Switzerland has the same issue with firearms finding their way into verbal arguments and cases of intimidation. The gun culture in the US absolutely sucks and it will until people lose their fetish for having guns as a means of self-defense. I've said this before, but 90% of the pro-gun community on NS should not be allowed to own firearms because they fantasize about self-defence shootings so hard that they probably masturbate while thinking about it.

"THIS CUNT LOOKED AT ME FUNNY SO I GRABBED MY GUN AND POINTED AT HIS HEAD SO HE KNEW I WAS ARMED, PROBLEM? PROBLEM??"

I don't have the exact figure on me but the number is minis how relative to the total population I'm sure. I mean even if we assume there were say 1 million such in incidents last year that still means less than 1% of the population would be effected. Plus largely what you speak of, tends to happen more in the criminal subculture anyway.

So in other words, you're saying that tragic circumstances where people are murdered over road rage or an extra-martial affair are no big deal because only 3 million people might be affected by it each year.

That's pretty fucked up. How do you sleep at night?

As any progun person will tell you, you never ever point a loaded weapon at something you aren't ready and willing to shoot.

Lol. I've met wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many "pro-gun" people who were complete dickheads around firearms to take that seriously. If every "pro-gun" person took this advice seriously, there wouldn't be half as many accidental shootings in the US.

[Grinning Dragon]

MMM I love the smell of gun control defeat in the morning, it <sniff> smells like victory.

Indeed. I can't wait for the day when I'm allowed to carry my guns wherever I want and point them at whoever I want without being arrested. My personal freedoms are much more important than anybody else's.

The sky is falling, the sky is falling, people are allowed to carry weapons, AHHH. Do your hands get chapped with all of that incessant hand-wringing?

[Vitaphone Racing]

Indeed. I can't wait for the day when I'm allowed to carry my guns wherever I want and point them at whoever I want without being arrested. My personal freedoms are much more important than anybody else's.

The sky is falling, the sky is falling, people are allowed to carry weapons, AHHH. Do your hands get chapped with all of that incessant hand-wringing?

Yes. Knowing that half of NSG is likely to be carrying firearms makes me feel like I never want to go out in public again. If anybody wanted a reason for background checks, they could look at internet debates about firearms for some great evidence in favor.

It's greatly unfortunate that my position as a responsible gun owner is being threatened by people who should not be allowed the same privilege. Making gun ownership a right was a huge mistake; it's a right that few a worthy of.

[Patridam]

It's greatly unfortunate that my position as a responsible gun owner is being threatened by people who should not be allowed the same privilege. Making gun ownership a right was a huge mistake; it's a right that few a worthy of.

So it's a privilege, not a right? Only a privileged few, as decided by the almighty government, are deserving of being able to defend themselves?

[Imperializt Russia]

It's greatly unfortunate that my position as a responsible gun owner is being threatened by people who should not be allowed the same privilege. Making gun ownership a right was a huge mistake; it's a right that few a worthy of.

So it's a privilege, not a right? Only a privileged few, as decided by the almighty government, are deserving of being able to defend themselves?

So, the status quo.

[Vitaphone Racing]

It's greatly unfortunate that my position as a responsible gun owner is being threatened by people who should not be allowed the same privilege. Making gun ownership a right was a huge mistake; it's a right that few a worthy of.

So it's a privilege, not a right? Only a privileged few, as decided by the almighty government, are deserving of being able to defend themselves?

Yep.

[Grinning Dragon]

The sky is falling, the sky is falling, people are allowed to carry weapons, AHHH. Do your hands get chapped with all of that incessant hand-wringing?

Yes. Knowing that half of NSG is likely to be carrying firearms makes me feel like I never want to go out in public again. If anybody wanted a reason for background checks, they could look at internet debates about firearms for some great evidence in favor.

It's greatly unfortunate that my position as a responsible gun owner is being threatened by people who should not be allowed the same privilege. Making gun ownership a right was a huge mistake; it's a right that few a worthy of.

I see, we can't have those lowly serfs to have the ability to keep and bear arms. So because of your unfounded fear of people carrying weapons for self protection and protection of others would have you become a recluse? Not a way to live.
I open carry almost daily, and have yet felt the need to randomly unholster and point my weapon at someone, I mean come on, a majority of people just do not do that.

[Patridam]

So it's a privilege, not a right? Only a privileged few, as decided by the almighty government, are deserving of being able to defend themselves?

So, the status quo.

In Europe? Perhaps. In America, no, not even in Calfiornia and New York are guns so restricted. And don't throw the price in since a cheap used rifle or pistol can be had starting around $100.

So it's a privilege, not a right? Only a privileged few, as decided by the almighty government, are deserving of being able to defend themselves?

Yep.

That's might Fascist and elitist of you. What happens when the mighty government decides you don't deserve to be one of those privileged few because you're the wrong color or in the wrong political party?

[Imperializt Russia]

Yes. Knowing that half of NSG is likely to be carrying firearms makes me feel like I never want to go out in public again. If anybody wanted a reason for background checks, they could look at internet debates about firearms for some great evidence in favor.

It's greatly unfortunate that my position as a responsible gun owner is being threatened by people who should not be allowed the same privilege. Making gun ownership a right was a huge mistake; it's a right that few a worthy of.

I see, we can't have those lowly serfs to have the ability to keep and bear arms. So because of your unfounded fear of people carrying weapons for self protection and protection of others would have you become a recluse? Not a way to live.
I open carry almost daily, and have yet felt the need to randomly unholster and point my weapon at someone, I mean come on, a majority of people just do not do that.

And those that do terrorise others.

[Patridam]

I see, we can't have those lowly serfs to have the ability to keep and bear arms. So because of your unfounded fear of people carrying weapons for self protection and protection of others would have you become a recluse? Not a way to live.
I open carry almost daily, and have yet felt the need to randomly unholster and point my weapon at someone, I mean come on, a majority of people just do not do that.

And those that do terrorise others.

And they get arrested for their trouble. Even in places where carry is legal, even without a license, brandishing or threatening someone with a weapon is a crime.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Yes. Knowing that half of NSG is likely to be carrying firearms makes me feel like I never want to go out in public again. If anybody wanted a reason for background checks, they could look at internet debates about firearms for some great evidence in favor.

It's greatly unfortunate that my position as a responsible gun owner is being threatened by people who should not be allowed the same privilege. Making gun ownership a right was a huge mistake; it's a right that few a worthy of.

I see, we can't have those lowly serfs to have the ability to keep and bear arms. So because of your unfounded fear of people carrying weapons for self protection and protection of others would have you become a recluse? Not a way to live.

There's nothing unfounded about it. People unable to control their emotions and/or act rationally should not be allowed to carry weapons, not even for self-protection, and they do. The US has a homicide rate of four times the rest of the western world to prove that much. And there's no point trying to make this a classist talking point because one's mental ability to not go postal isn't exactly relatable to their social standing. Fortunately, I need not be a recluse. I live in a great country where all the firearms I desire are available to me and not to those who shouldn't have them.

I open carry almost daily, and have yet felt the need to randomly unholster and point my weapon at someone, I mean come on, a majority of people just do not do that.

You're right, they don't. And yet, every day people get murdered over the most trivial of things.

[Imperializt Russia]

And those that do terrorise others.

And they get arrested for their trouble. Even in places where carry is legal, even without a license, brandishing or threatening someone with a weapon is a crime.

Not enough to prevent three thousand homicides in the US in 2011 where people were shot over the escalation of some kind of argument.

[Vitaphone Racing]

And those that do terrorise others.

And they get arrested for their trouble. Even in places where carry is legal, even without a license, brandishing or threatening someone with a weapon is a crime.

The next time I get murdered for being in a minor traffic accident, my lifeless corpse will take solace in the fact that the offender will be arrested for his trouble.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Yep.

That's might Fascist and elitist of you.

If you divide the amount of times I've been called elitist by the amount of fucks I give, well you can't divide by zero but you get the picture.

What happens when the mighty government decides you don't deserve to be one of those privileged few because you're the wrong color or in the wrong political party?

I don't live in North Korea, why would I worry about such a preposterous and ludicrous scenario?

[Patridam]

I see, we can't have those lowly serfs to have the ability to keep and bear arms. So because of your unfounded fear of people carrying weapons for self protection and protection of others would have you become a recluse? Not a way to live.

There's nothing unfounded about it. People unable to control their emotions and/or act rationally should not be allowed to carry weapons, not even for self-protection, and they do. The US has a homicide rate of four times the rest of the western world to prove that much. And there's no point trying to make this a classist talking point because one's mental ability to not go postal isn't exactly relatable to their social standing. Fortunately, I need not be a recluse. I live in a great country where all the firearms I desire are available to me and not to those who shouldn't have them.

So only a 'select few' are able to control their emotions and 'act rationally' according to you. Let us all make vitaphone the universe arbiter of those lucky few that are allowed to carry tools to defend themselves, and while we're at it lock up those vast hordes of people with feelings and thoughts we don't like so they can't hurt us or breathe near us.

[Spirit of Hope]

And they get arrested for their trouble. Even in places where carry is legal, even without a license, brandishing or threatening someone with a weapon is a crime.

Not enough to prevent three thousand homicides in the US in 2011 where people were shot over the escalation of some kind of argument.

And in how many of those cases did one person know the other? How many of those can we say wouldn't have become murders of some other kind?

And they get arrested for their trouble. Even in places where carry is legal, even without a license, brandishing or threatening someone with a weapon is a crime.

The next time I get murdered for being in a minor traffic accident, my lifeless corpse will take solace in the fact that the offender will be arrested for his trouble.

How many murders happen because of minor traffic accidents each year? Not many.

[Patridam]

And they get arrested for their trouble. Even in places where carry is legal, even without a license, brandishing or threatening someone with a weapon is a crime.

The next time I get murdered for being in a minor traffic accident, my lifeless corpse will take solace in the fact that the offender will be arrested for his trouble.

Ah, because that happens all the time in this crazy post apocalyptic anarchy that is the united states. Just step outside and somebody will murder you for wearing the wrong color shirt, and they'll only get a slap on the wrist for it.

[Vitaphone Racing]

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The next time I get murdered for being in a minor traffic accident, my lifeless corpse will take solace in the fact that the offender will be arrested for his trouble.

How many murders happen because of minor traffic accidents each year? Not many.

Really. Out of all the points you could have taken from that post, you stopped at the first clause.

[Vitaphone Racing]

The next time I get murdered for being in a minor traffic accident, my lifeless corpse will take solace in the fact that the offender will be arrested for his trouble.

Ah, because that happens all the time in this crazy post apocalyptic anarchy that is the united states. Just step outside and somebody will murder you for wearing the wrong color shirt, and get a slap on the wrist for it.

Funnily enough, it actually does. Well, at least the murder for wearing the wrong color shirt part. Ever been to LA?

[Vitaphone Racing]

There's nothing unfounded about it. People unable to control their emotions and/or act rationally should not be allowed to carry weapons, not even for self-protection, and they do. The US has a homicide rate of four times the rest of the western world to prove that much. And there's no point trying to make this a classist talking point because one's mental ability to not go postal isn't exactly relatable to their social standing. Fortunately, I need not be a recluse. I live in a great country where all the firearms I desire are available to me and not to those who shouldn't have them.

So only a 'select few' are able to control their emotions and 'act rationally' according to you.

Yes.

Let us all make vitaphone the universe arbiter of those lucky few that are allowed to carry tools to defend themselves,

I think that would be a great idea.

and while we're at it lock up those vast hordes of people with feelings and thoughts we don't like so they can't hurt us or breathe near us.

There's no need to go nuts.

[Patridam]

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What happens when the mighty government decides you don't deserve to be one of those privileged few because you're the wrong color or in the wrong political party?

I don't live in North Korea, why would I worry about such a preposterous and ludicrous scenario?

Because you're proposing an omnipotent government that hand picks the elite minority of persons "rational" enough to be deserving of the great privelege of self-defense. The government rulers would be intrinsically corrupt, unfair, and cronyist in their choice of this elite majority; "oh, to get be able to own a gun you have to have an IQ over 110." Oh, now you have to prove that you are a good citizen, you have to have a job and have voted in the past three elections." "Oh, now you have to be registered in the New Nazi party to own a gun."

You make me sick.