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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Gun Manufacturers » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:23 pm

Barringtonia wrote:Yes, yawn away at someone who thinks they can create laws on marriage that affect your lives but lives by entirely double standards.

Yawn, another politician stealing funds, yawn, another politician evading taxes,

Yawn, yawn, yawn.


Stealing funds and evading taxes are illegal. Having an affair isn't.
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Vampire Knight Zero » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:24 pm

Treznor wrote:
Vampire Knight Zero wrote:If you make it your job to impose family values on others, then go and throw them out the window in your own life, it matters a great deal. Especially when there are a lot of people who rather resent being told what their morality is supposed to be.


Touche. Well where I live, the UK, it's different. We KNOW they're humping everything that can open it's legs. :rofl:
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Barringtonia » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:26 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Barringtonia wrote:Yes, yawn away at someone who thinks they can create laws on marriage that affect your lives but lives by entirely double standards.

Yawn, another politician stealing funds, yawn, another politician evading taxes,

Yawn, yawn, yawn.


Stealing funds and evading taxes are illegal. Having an affair isn't.


I'm sure as a member of the Promise Keepers, he would have happily voted it illegal if it came up.
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Gauthier » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:28 pm

If this guy said gay weddings would "destroy" "traditional marriage" then hell yeah, this hypocrisy is important. Because it undermines the supposition that only homosexual inclusion destroys marriage.
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Derscon » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:29 pm

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Vampire Knight Zero wrote:
Treznor wrote:The issue is that he's made it his job to be a "family values" politician, one of the social conservatives who wants to defend the sanctity of marriage by denying it to gays. In other words, the textbook example of a hypocrite.


Meh. It matters not what your values are, what matters is that you can do the bloody job.

If you make it your job to impose family values on others, then go and throw them out the window in your own life, it matters a great deal. Especially when there are a lot of people who rather resent being told what their morality is supposed to be.


It's not even that, though. I can see why affairs would matter to the public. IF the guy can't even be faithful to his wife, how can we expect him to be faithful to his duties to the Constitution or the people?
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Treznor » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:30 pm

Gauthier wrote:If this guy said gay weddings would "destroy" "traditional marriage" then hell yeah, this hypocrisy is important. Because it undermines the supposition that only homosexual inclusion destroys marriage.

Not only that, but he's one of the people who pursued investigation against Clinton for the Lewinsky affair. He's a real peach.

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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Altergo » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:31 pm

*Yawn* This is something every politician knows how to do. FDR did it,JFK did it so who's stoping this guy from doing it. There is no yawn face so I'm gonna put these on: :!: :idea: :?: :arrow:

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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:32 pm

Vampire Knight Zero wrote:Touche. Well where I live, the UK, it's different. We KNOW they're humping everything that can open it's legs. :rofl:

Please, like anyone opens their legs with 10 feet of Gordon Brown.
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Vampire Knight Zero » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:34 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Vampire Knight Zero wrote:Touche. Well where I live, the UK, it's different. We KNOW they're humping everything that can open it's legs. :rofl:

Please, like anyone opens their legs with 10 feet of Gordon Brown.


Hey, someone slept with John Major... :blink:

They'll hump anyone if they're in power.
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Treznor » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:36 pm

Altergo wrote:*Yawn* This is something every politician knows how to do. FDR did it,JFK did it so who's stoping this guy from doing it. There is no yawn face so I'm gonna put these on: :!: :idea: :?: :arrow:

The only reason I find this newsworthy is because this one of the prime movers behind the "family values" conservatives. He urged the prosecution of Clinton for a blowjob, and he campaigns against gay marriage as a "defense of family values."

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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:37 pm

Gauthier wrote:If this guy said gay weddings would "destroy" "traditional marriage" then hell yeah, this hypocrisy is important. Because it undermines the supposition that only homosexual inclusion destroys marriage.

Well that's what happened. A gay couple got married and he got caught with a dose of gaydiation. After that, his marriage was doomed.
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Barringtonia » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:41 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Gauthier wrote:If this guy said gay weddings would "destroy" "traditional marriage" then hell yeah, this hypocrisy is important. Because it undermines the supposition that only homosexual inclusion destroys marriage.

Well that's what happened. A gay couple got married and he got caught with a dose of gaydiation. After that, his marriage was doomed.


Damn those sneaky gay people with their sneaky shoes, their sneaky hair and their sneaky way of making upstanding, god-fearing senators sleep with young, female employees.
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Gauthier » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:45 pm

Barringtonia wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Gauthier wrote:If this guy said gay weddings would "destroy" "traditional marriage" then hell yeah, this hypocrisy is important. Because it undermines the supposition that only homosexual inclusion destroys marriage.

Well that's what happened. A gay couple got married and he got caught with a dose of gaydiation. After that, his marriage was doomed.


Damn those sneaky gay people with their sneaky shoes, their sneaky hair and their sneaky way of making upstanding, god-fearing senators sleep with young, female employees.


You know, if the Catholic Church squashed Alberto Cutie for having an affair with a consenting adult woman, just imagine what the GOP'll do to this guy for cheating on his wife with another woman.
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby New Mitanni » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:57 pm

Another GOPer who DIDN'T (1) bugger a teen-age Congressional page and then get re-elected and made an important committee chairman, (2) allow homosexual prostitution out of his apartment, (3) use a White House intern as his own personal humidor and then lie under oath about it in an attempt to thwart a plaintiff's sexual harassment lawsuit, or (4) stuff his freezer with $90,000 in graft payments.

Oops, I forgot. He's not (1) a Democrat homosexual, (2) a Democrat homosexual, (3) a Democrat President, or (4) a black Democrat.

My bad. :roll:
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Barringtonia » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:01 pm

New Mitanni wrote:Another GOPer who DIDN'T (1) bugger a teen-age Congressional page and then get re-elected and made an important committee chairman, (2) allow homosexual prostitution out of his apartment, (3) use a White House intern as his own personal humidor and then lie under oath about it in an attempt to thwart a plaintiff's sexual harassment lawsuit, or (4) stuff his freezer with $90,000 in graft payments.

Oops, I forgot. He's not (1) a Democrat homosexual, (2) a Democrat homosexual, (3) a Democrat President, or (4) a black Democrat.

My bad. :roll:


It is indeed tedious to constantly hear about the shit that goes on in Washington, it's a big boys club and the nation does nothing but yawn.
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Treznor » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:16 pm

New Mitanni wrote:Another GOPer who DIDN'T (1) bugger a teen-age Congressional page and then get re-elected and made an important committee chairman, (2) allow homosexual prostitution out of his apartment, (3) use a White House intern as his own personal humidor and then lie under oath about it in an attempt to thwart a plaintiff's sexual harassment lawsuit, or (4) stuff his freezer with $90,000 in graft payments.

Oops, I forgot. He's not (1) a Democrat homosexual, (2) a Democrat homosexual, (3) a Democrat President, or (4) a black Democrat.

My bad. :roll:

Of course, Republican scandals now outnumber Democratic scandals by a significant number. Shall we list the honor roll of Republicans in sex, gay sex and perversion scandals?

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Randal David Ankeney
Jim Bakker
Bob Barr
Parker J. Bena
Louis Beres
John Bolton
Jim Bunn
Former President of the United States George W. Bush
Neil Bush
Ken Calvert
Helen Chenoweth
Mark Foley
Newt Gingrich
Philip Giordano
Rudy Giuliani
Matthew Glavin
Neal Horsley
Lewis "Scooter" Libby
Rush Limbaugh
Jeff Miller
Joseph M. McDade
Bill O'Reilly
Bob Packwood
George Roche III
Joe Scarborough
Ed Schrock
Dr. Laura Schlessinger
Jean Schmidt
Jimmy Swaggart
Randall Terry
Strom Thurmond
Jim West

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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:20 pm

Specifically - he's a member of the Promise Keepers - which means he actively evangelises monogamy in marriage, and makes a big deal about it.

Specifically - this is the person who said Larry Craig should step down for his sins. Indeed, he said he WOULD step down in the same situation.

Notably - while he was SAYING this, he was having an affair.

Specifically - this is a person who said that Clinton should resign, based on his infidelity.


There are a whole load of reasons why this is a 'big deal' - almost ALL of them concerned with Ensign being a liar and a hypocrite.

It's also worth pointing out he's only admitting it, because the husband of the person he had an affair with, found out.
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Non Aligned States » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:21 pm

Treznor wrote:Of course, Republican scandals now outnumber Democratic scandals by a significant number. Shall we list the honor roll of Republicans in sex, gay sex and perversion scandals?

Source


Oh don't bother with the likes of New Mitanni, he's a noodnik from the old forum who still thinks of himself and any militant racists/secessionist as men from Middle Earth with the rest of us as mere Uruk-Hai (orcs) to be slaughtered.
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Treznor » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:24 pm

Non Aligned States wrote:
Treznor wrote:Of course, Republican scandals now outnumber Democratic scandals by a significant number. Shall we list the honor roll of Republicans in sex, gay sex and perversion scandals?

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Oh don't bother with the likes of New Mitanni, he's a noodnik from the old forum who still thinks of himself and any militant racists/secessionist as men from Middle Earth with the rest of us as mere Uruk-Hai (orcs) to be slaughtered.

Yes, but it was fun finding the list. I had no idea George W. Bush had an affair that lasted through 1999.

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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Gun Manufacturers » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:29 pm

Treznor wrote:
Altergo wrote:*Yawn* This is something every politician knows how to do. FDR did it,JFK did it so who's stoping this guy from doing it. There is no yawn face so I'm gonna put these on: :!: :idea: :?: :arrow:

The only reason I find this newsworthy is because this one of the prime movers behind the "family values" conservatives. He urged the prosecution of Clinton for a blowjob, and he campaigns against gay marriage as a "defense of family values."


I think it was more that he was urging for the prosecution of Clinton for lying under oath about having a blowjob (during the deposition for the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit).
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:32 pm

Non Aligned States wrote:Oh don't bother with the likes of New Mitanni, he's a noodnik from the old forum who still thinks of himself and any militant racists/secessionist as men from Middle Earth with the rest of us as mere Uruk-Hai (orcs) to be slaughtered.


Don't forget he declared Obama to be Sauron and called out for Fort Sumter on his election.

:lol:
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Postby Iron Chariots » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:44 pm

New Mitanni wrote:Another GOPer who DIDN'T (1) bugger a teen-age Congressional page and then get re-elected and made an important committee chairman, (2) allow homosexual prostitution out of his apartment, (3) use a White House intern as his own personal humidor and then lie under oath about it in an attempt to thwart a plaintiff's sexual harassment lawsuit, or (4) stuff his freezer with $90,000 in graft payments.

Oops, I forgot. He's not (1) a Democrat homosexual, (2) a Democrat homosexual, (3) a Democrat President, or (4) a black Democrat.

My bad. :roll:


This post isn't even worthy of a proper reply, so instead I will critique your grammar.

"Democrat homosexual" and "Democrat President" are incorrect. "Democrat" is a noun. The adjective is "Democratic." So "Democratic homosexual" and "Democratic President" would be correct. You could also use "homosexual Democrat," because "homosexual" can be used both as a noun and as an adjective.

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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Muravyets » Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:03 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Treznor wrote:
Altergo wrote:*Yawn* This is something every politician knows how to do. FDR did it,JFK did it so who's stoping this guy from doing it. There is no yawn face so I'm gonna put these on: :!: :idea: :?: :arrow:

The only reason I find this newsworthy is because this one of the prime movers behind the "family values" conservatives. He urged the prosecution of Clinton for a blowjob, and he campaigns against gay marriage as a "defense of family values."


I think it was more that he was urging for the prosecution of Clinton for lying under oath about having a blowjob (during the deposition for the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit).

Oh? Can you find a source that quotes him talking about perjury? It must be out there somewhere, but all I could find were references to him talking about other people's sex lives and how bad they were for the country, like this example:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/1 ... 16508.html

Every other site I looked at just repeated those quotes or similar ones. Seems like "sex sells" for Mr. Ensign.
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Postby SaintB » Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:17 pm

Ashmoria wrote:why do congressmen have to announce old affairs? id rather not know.

Its seen as a good political move. In fact I would not be surprised one bit if the whole affair was planned by him and wifey so that he could make a huge speech about how he cheated and then realized what a horrible thing he did and thanks to the magic of marriage counseling and his faith in almighty God he has realized how horrible it was and how important and sacred marriage is and how the whole thing makes him love his family, children, and country even more than ever before... blah blah blah blah blah!
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Re: Another GOPer cheats!

Postby Treznor » Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:58 am

SaintB wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:why do congressmen have to announce old affairs? id rather not know.

Its seen as a good political move. In fact I would not be surprised one bit if the whole affair was planned by him and wifey so that he could make a huge speech about how he cheated and then realized what a horrible thing he did and thanks to the magic of marriage counseling and his faith in almighty God he has realized how horrible it was and how important and sacred marriage is and how the whole thing makes him love his family, children, and country even more than ever before... blah blah blah blah blah!

That was the irony observed during the Clinton impeachment. He was being persecuted for something that would have gotten him re-elected in places like France and Italy.

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