Marriage Now Fabulous, SCOTUS Rules for Same Sex Marriage

[Prussia-Steinbach]

But guess what?

God is a fraud. A big fraud!

Oops cat's out of the bag.

Even if God existed, the Bible would still be bullshit because the only people that wrote it were just that - normal people.

Oh yeah? Explain bananas, then.

Christians: 1 banana
Atheists: 0 banana

[Sun Wukong]

But guess what?

God is a fraud. A big fraud!

Oops cat's out of the bag.

Even if God existed, the Bible would still be bullshit because the only people that wrote it were just that - normal people.

Oh yeah? Explain bananas, then.

Christians: 1 banana
Atheists: 0 banana

The Monkey King demands Christians forfeit their banana!

[Prussia-Steinbach]

The Monkey King demands Christians forfeit their banana!

But the angels take the banana back, for GOD!

[Sun Wukong]

The Monkey King demands Christians forfeit their banana!

But the angels take the banana back, for GOD!

Oh it's on now!

Havoc in Heaven II: The Havocing

[Galloism]

I'm just waiting for Texas or Louisiana to raise the bar, and require fertility testing and proof of reproductive capability before they'll issue a marriage license to shortcut those arguments about other nonfertile people they allow to marry.

Then the follow up court ruling which begins "Are you daft? NO."

[Maineiacs]

But guess what?

God is a fraud. A big fraud!

Oops cat's out of the bag.

Even if God existed, the Bible would still be bullshit because the only people that wrote it were just that - normal people.

Worse than that, they were people with an agenda.

[New Jordslag]

But the angels take the banana back, for GOD!

Oh it's on now!

Havoc in Heaven II: The Havocing

God vs the Monkey King, fighting over the glorious Christian Banana. Who will win?

Who did, then? Was God's plan... *gasp* flawed?

He was going through a weird phase when he made the Hyenas.

He had another weird phase later in which he made Bonobos.

[Maineiacs]

He had another weird phase later in which he made Bonobos.

"You know, I really didn't make chimps horny enough..."

[Seno Zhou Varada]

I just noticed this thread. My inside feelings were... uhm... how do I explain this... F*CK YEAH! Along with a tingly sensation of warmth.

Seriously this is amazing. Congrats to those able to marry due to this!

[Genivaria]

That's absolute bullshit. Homosexual behavior among Animals has been observed in nature, even among the Chimps we are descended from. Homosexuality is a natural thing, so the next time anybody wants to say 'Oh, Homosexuals weren't born that way!', no. They were. It is an irreplaceable part of them. It is their nature. So if we're going by the God, thing, it would very much seem that God did, in fact, place Homosexuality into Nature on purpose.

God didn't create us to live our lives in Black and White lines. Not all men have to be men, and not all girls have to be Girls. God loves them the same no matter what they do. God is accepting, and if He were to walk on this earth, he would be very much accepting of his Trans and Gay followers. He would love and accept them for who they are, for he is God, and God is kind to all.

And, you know, there have been so many Homophobes here saying "Oh, I'm fine with Homosexuals, but they just can't get married, or adopt kids, or display their affection, or any of that other live stuff that Heterosexual Couples are certainly entitled to!" It's enough. Do you not want the gays to display affection in Public? Well, the Heterosexuals might as well be forced to do so as well. Can't get married? Well, it would be only fair if we banned Homosexuals from getting married too. Can't adopt Children? Well, we might as well apply the same to Heterosexuals, and let the Orphans rot. Yep. How much would you like it, if you're unable to even show your love for the person you love? You cannot say you support Gay equal rights and oppose Gay public affection and be intellectually honest in doing so.

God did NOT place homosexuality in nature. Read the Bible if you are so informed.

Ah I've found your problem.
You get your information from fairytale stories instead of the real world.
I'd prescribe READING A FUCKING SCIENCE BOOK.
Call me if your problem persists.

[Seno Zhou Varada]

That's absolute bullshit. Homosexual behavior among Animals has been observed in nature, even among the Chimps we are descended from. Homosexuality is a natural thing, so the next time anybody wants to say 'Oh, Homosexuals weren't born that way!', no. They were. It is an irreplaceable part of them. It is their nature. So if we're going by the God, thing, it would very much seem that God did, in fact, place Homosexuality into Nature on purpose.

God didn't create us to live our lives in Black and White lines. Not all men have to be men, and not all girls have to be Girls. God loves them the same no matter what they do. God is accepting, and if He were to walk on this earth, he would be very much accepting of his Trans and Gay followers. He would love and accept them for who they are, for he is God, and God is kind to all.

And, you know, there have been so many Homophobes here saying "Oh, I'm fine with Homosexuals, but they just can't get married, or adopt kids, or display their affection, or any of that other live stuff that Heterosexual Couples are certainly entitled to!" It's enough. Do you not want the gays to display affection in Public? Well, the Heterosexuals might as well be forced to do so as well. Can't get married? Well, it would be only fair if we banned Homosexuals from getting married too. Can't adopt Children? Well, we might as well apply the same to Heterosexuals, and let the Orphans rot. Yep. How much would you like it, if you're unable to even show your love for the person you love? You cannot say you support Gay equal rights and oppose Gay public affection and be intellectually honest in doing so.

God did NOT place homosexuality in nature. Read the Bible if you are so informed.

Then tell me one thing if YOUR so informed. Why does it exist?

[Liberty and Linguistics]

That's absolute bullshit. Homosexual behavior among Animals has been observed in nature, even among the Chimps we are descended from. Homosexuality is a natural thing, so the next time anybody wants to say 'Oh, Homosexuals weren't born that way!', no. They were. It is an irreplaceable part of them. It is their nature. So if we're going by the God, thing, it would very much seem that God did, in fact, place Homosexuality into Nature on purpose.

God didn't create us to live our lives in Black and White lines. Not all men have to be men, and not all girls have to be Girls. God loves them the same no matter what they do. God is accepting, and if He were to walk on this earth, he would be very much accepting of his Trans and Gay followers. He would love and accept them for who they are, for he is God, and God is kind to all.

And, you know, there have been so many Homophobes here saying "Oh, I'm fine with Homosexuals, but they just can't get married, or adopt kids, or display their affection, or any of that other live stuff that Heterosexual Couples are certainly entitled to!" It's enough. Do you not want the gays to display affection in Public? Well, the Heterosexuals might as well be forced to do so as well. Can't get married? Well, it would be only fair if we banned Homosexuals from getting married too. Can't adopt Children? Well, we might as well apply the same to Heterosexuals, and let the Orphans rot. Yep. How much would you like it, if you're unable to even show your love for the person you love? You cannot say you support Gay equal rights and oppose Gay public affection and be intellectually honest in doing so.

God did NOT place homosexuality in nature. Read the Bible if you are so informed.

The bible is not meant to be taken sacrosanct. The bible is a long book, written over the course of many centuries, written by many different people. The book spans the history of Ancient Israel, fabricated stories that are meant to teach us metaphors for life, and any book such as the Bible will inevitably contain old, middle aged morals. These morals are not to be taken literally, and I guarantee that you yourself do not take these morals taught in the bible literally. To do so would be insane, a book which really teaches lessons, stories, and lays the foundation for a religion is not something to be taken literally.

I've taken bible classes, scripture classes, and talked with rabbis and priests alike. I think they can agree with the consensus that the bible is a book, not a rulebook.

I'm down with christianity, for the most part. But, when fundamentalists act as if they have to shove their own flawed moral compass down the throats of others, I just hang my head in disappointment.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I'm just waiting for Texas or Louisiana to raise the bar, and require fertility testing and proof of reproductive capability before they'll issue a marriage license to shortcut those arguments about other nonfertile people they allow to marry.

Then the follow up court ruling which begins "Are you daft? NO."

That's something I never get. When the question of reproduction is used to justify discrimination against a group. Being gay or lesbian doesn't mean you're incapable of reproducing or unwilling to. Being gay doesn't make you automatically infertile/sterile.

[Kelinfort]

I'm just waiting for Texas or Louisiana to raise the bar, and require fertility testing and proof of reproductive capability before they'll issue a marriage license to shortcut those arguments about other nonfertile people they allow to marry.

Then the follow up court ruling which begins "Are you daft? NO."

They'll ban IVF too, I suppose.

[The Orson Empire]

I'm just waiting for Texas or Louisiana to raise the bar, and require fertility testing and proof of reproductive capability before they'll issue a marriage license to shortcut those arguments about other nonfertile people they allow to marry.

Then the follow up court ruling which begins "Are you daft? NO."

That's something I never get. When the question of reproduction is used to justify discrimination against a group. Being gay or lesbian doesn't mean you're incapable of reproducing or unwilling to. Being gay doesn't make you automatically infertile/sterile.

It never ceases to amaze me at how far people will go to discriminate against a minority group.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

That's something I never get. When the question of reproduction is used to justify discrimination against a group. Being gay or lesbian doesn't mean you're incapable of reproducing or unwilling to. Being gay doesn't make you automatically infertile/sterile.

It never ceases to amaze me at how far people will go to discriminate against a minority group.

I know, right?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

It never ceases to amaze me at how far people will go to discriminate against a minority group.

I know, right?

The enthusiasm some put into it is a bit disturbing at times.

[The Orson Empire]

It never ceases to amaze me at how far people will go to discriminate against a minority group.

I know, right?

I just don't understand the mindset of these people. Why the hell do they even care if someone is gay or not? It's not affecting your life.

I guess it has to do with the fact that they have lost power over a minority group. Religion is unfortunately being used to justify this control.

[Cannot think of a name]

God did NOT place homosexuality in nature. Read the Bible if you are so informed.

Then tell me one thing if YOUR so informed. Why does it exist?

What happens when you ask these questions to someone in a lab coat instead of a robe:

If a certain trait or behavior is detrimental to the reproductive success, or fitness, of an organism, you wouldn’t expect it to persist in the population as natural selection should get rid of it. After all, the aim of the reproductive game is to keep your genes going. Why, then, do members of the same sex cop off with each other in so many species? And we’re not just talking about homosexual behaviors (observed in more than 1,500 species, since you asked); we mean the whole shebang.

Scientists have long pondered this and have struggled to come to any consensus. Although there are a few different ideas, two prevailing hypotheses that resulted from theoretical work suggest that same-sex sexual behaviors (SSB) could persist for two reasons: overdominance and sexual antagonism. The former proposes that SSB could persist in the population if genes for this behavior confer a harmonizing reproductive advantage in individuals only possessing one copy of the gene, or heterozygotes, as opposed to those in possession of two (homozygotes). The latter suggests that a gene that is detrimental to fitness in one sex could be maintained so long as it is beneficial to the other sex.
...
The final stage of the investigation involved performing experimental crosses of flies from both of these identified lines and examining the resulting offspring. More specifically, they wanted to see whether coming from a genetic background associated with high levels of SSB affected reproductive rates in female offspring.

The researchers found that while their data lent more weight to the overdominance hypothesis, their results did not exclusively support one over the other. In fact, they think that both could be contributing to the maintenance of SSB in the gene pool. But that wasn’t the most interesting find of the study: Males with a genetic makeup associated with high levels of SSB produced female offspring with higher rates of reproduction, or fecundity. This suggests that genes associated with SSB could be persisting in the population because they actually confer a fitness advantage in females, despite being reproductively harmful to males.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I know, right?

I just don't understand the mindset of these people. Why the hell do they even care if someone is gay or not? It's not affecting your life.

I guess it has to do with the fact that they have lost power over a minority group. Religion is unfortunately being used to justify this control.

That may be a big part of it. Also, to be a bigot, many do not need much of an incentive.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I know, right?

The enthusiasm some put into it is a bit disturbing at times.

Enthusiastically hating, that's what I call it.

[The Orson Empire]

I just don't understand the mindset of these people. Why the hell do they even care if someone is gay or not? It's not affecting your life.

I guess it has to do with the fact that they have lost power over a minority group. Religion is unfortunately being used to justify this control.

That may be a big part of it. Also, to be a bigot, many do not need much of an incentive.

Indeed. Also, religion has been used to justify some of the most atrocious acts committed in human history. This doesn't mean religion is inherently bad- religion is, unfortunately, easy to use to justify these horrific acts, as religion is something that the masses can agree on. Political ideology can also have similar effects.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

That may be a big part of it. Also, to be a bigot, many do not need much of an incentive.

Indeed. Also, religion has been used to justify some of the most atrocious acts committed in human history. This doesn't mean religion is inherently bad- religion is, unfortunately, easy to use to justify these horrific acts, as religion is something that the masses can agree on. Political ideology can also have similar effects.

Can't disagree there.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Indeed. Also, religion has been used to justify some of the most atrocious acts committed in human history. This doesn't mean religion is inherently bad...

No, but it is inherently illogical/irrational.

But that isn't the topic.

[The Orson Empire]

Indeed. Also, religion has been used to justify some of the most atrocious acts committed in human history. This doesn't mean religion is inherently bad- religion is, unfortunately, easy to use to justify these horrific acts, as religion is something that the masses can agree on. Political ideology can also have similar effects.

Can't disagree there.

Furthermore, certain doctrines of Christianity (particularly Fundamentalism) have convinced their followers that homosexuality is an abomination, and this has translated into homosexuals themselves not being viewed as equals to heterosexuals. Essentially, they are de-humanizing homosexuals and making it seem like homosexuals are some kind of subhuman vermin.