Marriage Now Fabulous, SCOTUS Rules for Same Sex Marriage

[Larthinia]

To everyone wondering why I don't agree with that, I know (in real life) adopted children of LGBT couples who said that they are bullied at school because of having same-sex parents and that they wished they'd have a normal family. One of my friends (adopted child of two mothers) is part of a international organization against LGBT's or something like that. So, basically, there are children who have a bad life due to having two same-sex parents. This is my argument.

In my religion, homosexuality is considered a sin, by the way. And, if anyone will say "You're a freaking homophobe!", I am not. I actually have LGBT friends and I have no problem with them. The thing is that, I believe that you are not born like this, and something/somebody that is part of your life made you be gay/transgender and so on. Because, God (yes, I believe in God, all atheists out there) did the man to be man and girl to be girl. There is no such thing as a boy being born and feeling like a girl inside or vice-versa. There's also no such thing as a girl/boy falling in love with somebody of their own gender, since God did not make us like that.

On the other hand, I agree with LGBT's having equal rights to us, since they are people like that. The only things I don't want to see is LGBT's marrying and having children (I explained why) or LGBT's showing their affection in public.

[Norstal]

To everyone wondering why I don't agree with that, I know (in real life) adopted children of LGBT couples who said that they are bullied at school because of having same-sex parents and that they wished they'd have a normal family. One of my friends (adopted child of two mothers) is part of a international organization against LGBT's or something like that. So, basically, there are children who have a bad life due to having two same-sex parents. This is my argument.

Black couples who adopt white children should not get married because their children will get bullied by racists. This is what you're essentially saying.

In my religion, homosexuality is considered a sin, by the way. And, if anyone will say "You're a freaking homophobe!", I am not. I actually have LGBT friends and I have no problem with them. The thing is that, I believe that you are not born like this, and something/somebody that is part of your life made you be gay/transgender and so on. Because, God (yes, I believe in God, all atheists out there) did the man to be man and girl to be girl. There is no such thing as a boy being born and feeling like a girl inside or vice-versa. There's also no such thing as a girl/boy falling in love with somebody of their own gender, since God did not make us like that.

In other people's religion it isn't. What are you gonna do when Buddhists marry a gay couple? Invade their temple?

On the other hand, I agree with LGBT's having equal rights to us, since they are people like that. The only things I don't want to see is LGBT's marrying and having children (I explained why) or LGBT's showing their affection in public.

Well that's not equal though is it?

[Larthinia]

To everyone wondering why I don't agree with that, I know (in real life) adopted children of LGBT couples who said that they are bullied at school because of having same-sex parents and that they wished they'd have a normal family. One of my friends (adopted child of two mothers) is part of a international organization against LGBT's or something like that. So, basically, there are children who have a bad life due to having two same-sex parents. This is my argument.

Black couples who adopt white children should not get married because their children will get bullied by racists. This is what you're essentially saying.

In my religion, homosexuality is considered a sin, by the way. And, if anyone will say "You're a freaking homophobe!", I am not. I actually have LGBT friends and I have no problem with them. The thing is that, I believe that you are not born like this, and something/somebody that is part of your life made you be gay/transgender and so on. Because, God (yes, I believe in God, all atheists out there) did the man to be man and girl to be girl. There is no such thing as a boy being born and feeling like a girl inside or vice-versa. There's also no such thing as a girl/boy falling in love with somebody of their own gender, since God did not make us like that.

In other people's religion it isn't. What are you gonna do when Buddhists marry a gay couple? Invade their temple?

On the other hand, I agree with LGBT's having equal rights to us, since they are people like that. The only things I don't want to see is LGBT's marrying and having children (I explained why) or LGBT's showing their affection in public.

Well that's not equal though is it?

Firstly, I was not saying that about racism. I meant something else.
Secondly, that is THEIR religion. I am not aggressive towards other people that believe other things I do not believe in, except if they are aggressive towards me because of what I believe in.
Thirdly, I already explained that I consider equal marriage and equal rights two different things.

[Norstal]

Black couples who adopt white children should not get married because their children will get bullied by racists. This is what you're essentially saying.


In other people's religion it isn't. What are you gonna do when Buddhists marry a gay couple? Invade their temple?



Well that's not equal though is it?

Firstly, I was not saying that about racism. I meant something else.

It doesn't have to be racism is it? It could be sexism. Racism. Or in this case, homophobia.

Black couples who adopt white children should not get married because their children will get bullied by racists. This is what you're essentially saying.
Lesbian couples who adopt straight children should not get married because their children will get bullied by homophobes. This is what you're essentially saying.
Poor couples who adopt children should not get married because their children will get bullied by elitists. This is what you're essentially saying.
Handicap couples who adopt capable children should not get married because their children will get bullied by idiots. This is what you're essentially saying.

You tell me what the difference is with all of these. Because they're all discrimination to me. Allowing any one of these discrimination to happen allows the other ones.

Secondly, that is THEIR religion. I am not aggressive towards other people that believe other things I do not believe in, except if they are aggressive towards me because of what I believe in.

Then let gays get married. Really, what are you gonna do when gays get married? Are you gonna shoot them?

Thirdly, I already explained that I consider equal marriage and equal rights two different things.

Your explanation is insufficient. Do you know how to do arithmetic?

Straight rights:
get married

Gay rights:

Straight rights is 1
Gay rights is 0

Is straight rights equal to gay rights?

[New Jordslag]

To everyone wondering why I don't agree with that, I know (in real life) adopted children of LGBT couples who said that they are bullied at school because of having same-sex parents and that they wished they'd have a normal family. One of my friends (adopted child of two mothers) is part of a international organization against LGBT's or something like that. So, basically, there are children who have a bad life due to having two same-sex parents. This is my argument.

In my religion, homosexuality is considered a sin, by the way. And, if anyone will say "You're a freaking homophobe!", I am not. I actually have LGBT friends and I have no problem with them. The thing is that, I believe that you are not born like this, and something/somebody that is part of your life made you be gay/transgender and so on. Because, God (yes, I believe in God, all atheists out there) did the man to be man and girl to be girl. There is no such thing as a boy being born and feeling like a girl inside or vice-versa. There's also no such thing as a girl/boy falling in love with somebody of their own gender, since God did not make us like that.

On the other hand, I agree with LGBT's having equal rights to us, since they are people like that. The only things I don't want to see is LGBT's marrying and having children (I explained why) or LGBT's showing their affection in public.

That's absolute bullshit. Homosexual behavior among Animals has been observed in nature, even among the Chimps we are descended from. Homosexuality is a natural thing, so the next time anybody wants to say 'Oh, Homosexuals weren't born that way!', no. They were. It is an irreplaceable part of them. It is their nature. So if we're going by the God, thing, it would very much seem that God did, in fact, place Homosexuality into Nature on purpose.

God didn't create us to live our lives in Black and White lines. Not all men have to be men, and not all girls have to be Girls. God loves them the same no matter what they do. God is accepting, and if He were to walk on this earth, he would be very much accepting of his Trans and Gay followers. He would love and accept them for who they are, for he is God, and God is kind to all.

And, you know, there have been so many Homophobes here saying "Oh, I'm fine with Homosexuals, but they just can't get married, or adopt kids, or display their affection, or any of that other live stuff that Heterosexual Couples are certainly entitled to!" It's enough. Do you not want the gays to display affection in Public? Well, the Heterosexuals might as well be forced to do so as well. Can't get married? Well, it would be only fair if we banned Homosexuals from getting married too. Can't adopt Children? Well, we might as well apply the same to Heterosexuals, and let the Orphans rot. Yep. How much would you like it, if you're unable to even show your love for the person you love? You cannot say you support Gay equal rights and oppose Gay public affection and be intellectually honest in doing so.

[Liriena]

I know (in real life) adopted children of LGBT couples who said that they are bullied at school because of having same-sex parents and that they wished they'd have a normal family.

First of all, anecdotal evidence isn't worth much, specially if we, your detractors in this discussion, have no way to corroborate your claims.
With that said, that children raised in LGBT households are bullied for it is not something LGBT parents should be punished for by denying them joint custody rights and the sort. The ones in the wrong are the bullies, and the enviroment that made their bullying possible.

One of my friends (adopted child of two mothers) is part of a international organization against LGBT's or something like that.

And the countless children of same-sex couples who are supportive of their parents, and LGBT rights as a whole, should be thrown under the bus because of your friend's life experience? Also, from what I've seen, many of the people raised in LGBT households often wrongfully blame their LGBT parents for the problems they face growing up, when in fact their problems can be attributed to other causes.

So, basically, there are children who have a bad life due to having two same-sex parents. This is my argument.

A very poor argument, given how (a) it's an argument based on anecdotal evidence of dubious veracity and (b) there are countless children who were raised by same-sex parents without any negative outcomes.

In my religion, homosexuality is considered a sin, by the way.

That explains your argument: you probably suffer from confirmation bias.

And, if anyone will say "You're a freaking homophobe!", I am not. I actually have LGBT friends and I have no problem with them.

With all due respect, the "I have X friend, so I'm not racist/homophobic/transphobic/antisemitic/etc" argument (also known as the friend argument) is worth as much as your previous anecdotal evidence. We don't know these alleged LGBT friends of yours, and the fact that you hold unsupportive opinions regarding their identity and their human rights makes the claim that you "have no problem with them" ring hollow. You may not feel any personal animosity towards them, but you clearly don't respect the LGBT part of their identity. You don't see them as fit to marry or raise children, nor do you believe their gender identity or sexual orientation is legitimate. If I happened to befriend you, finding that you felt that way would be a deal-breaker for me.

The thing is that, I believe that you are not born like this, and something/somebody that is part of your life made you be gay/transgender and so on.

Can you actually prove it? If not, this claim is worth as much as your previous ones.

Because, God (yes, I believe in God, all atheists out there) did the man to be man and girl to be girl.

Explain intersex people, then.

There is no such thing as a boy being born and feeling like a girl inside or vice-versa.

Except transgender children do exist, as any actual mental health professional would tell you. And some research does suggest that transgender identity may be inborn.

I don't mean to sound pedantic, but if you are going to argue against transgender identity, do it from an informed point of view, acknowledging the established science behind the phenomenon. Unless you have research of your own that supports your assertions, don't make this sort of broad, absolute claims, in direct contradiction of the consensus of professionals.

There's also no such thing as a girl/boy falling in love with somebody of their own gender, since God did not make us like that.

Except there's literally thousands upon thousands of committed same-sex couples, and unless you have some research to support it, you are in no position to claim none of them is actually, demonstrably, legitimately in love.

On the other hand, I agree with LGBT's having equal rights to us, since they are people like that. The only things I don't want to see is LGBT's marrying and having children (I explained why) or LGBT's showing their affection in public.

In other words, you don't want them to have equal rights.

Also, are you saying you want to ban public displays of affection by LGBT people? Why? What makes a same-sex couple holding hands or, Cosmos forbid, kissing in public, worse than an opposite-sex couple doing it? Who are they hurting? Whose rights are they violating by being publicly affectionate towards one another?

[Larthinia]

To everyone wondering why I don't agree with that, I know (in real life) adopted children of LGBT couples who said that they are bullied at school because of having same-sex parents and that they wished they'd have a normal family. One of my friends (adopted child of two mothers) is part of a international organization against LGBT's or something like that. So, basically, there are children who have a bad life due to having two same-sex parents. This is my argument.

In my religion, homosexuality is considered a sin, by the way. And, if anyone will say "You're a freaking homophobe!", I am not. I actually have LGBT friends and I have no problem with them. The thing is that, I believe that you are not born like this, and something/somebody that is part of your life made you be gay/transgender and so on. Because, God (yes, I believe in God, all atheists out there) did the man to be man and girl to be girl. There is no such thing as a boy being born and feeling like a girl inside or vice-versa. There's also no such thing as a girl/boy falling in love with somebody of their own gender, since God did not make us like that.

On the other hand, I agree with LGBT's having equal rights to us, since they are people like that. The only things I don't want to see is LGBT's marrying and having children (I explained why) or LGBT's showing their affection in public.

That's absolute bullshit. Homosexual behavior among Animals has been observed in nature, even among the Chimps we are descended from. Homosexuality is a natural thing, so the next time anybody wants to say 'Oh, Homosexuals weren't born that way!', no. They were. It is an irreplaceable part of them. It is their nature. So if we're going by the God, thing, it would very much seem that God did, in fact, place Homosexuality into Nature on purpose.

God didn't create us to live our lives in Black and White lines. Not all men have to be men, and not all girls have to be Girls. God loves them the same no matter what they do. God is accepting, and if He were to walk on this earth, he would be very much accepting of his Trans and Gay followers. He would love and accept them for who they are, for he is God, and God is kind to all.

And, you know, there have been so many Homophobes here saying "Oh, I'm fine with Homosexuals, but they just can't get married, or adopt kids, or display their affection, or any of that other live stuff that Heterosexual Couples are certainly entitled to!" It's enough. Do you not want the gays to display affection in Public? Well, the Heterosexuals might as well be forced to do so as well. Can't get married? Well, it would be only fair if we banned Homosexuals from getting married too. Can't adopt Children? Well, we might as well apply the same to Heterosexuals, and let the Orphans rot. Yep. How much would you like it, if you're unable to even show your love for the person you love? You cannot say you support Gay equal rights and oppose Gay public affection and be intellectually honest in doing so.

God did NOT place homosexuality in nature. Read the Bible if you are so informed.

[New Jordslag]

That's absolute bullshit. Homosexual behavior among Animals has been observed in nature, even among the Chimps we are descended from. Homosexuality is a natural thing, so the next time anybody wants to say 'Oh, Homosexuals weren't born that way!', no. They were. It is an irreplaceable part of them. It is their nature. So if we're going by the God, thing, it would very much seem that God did, in fact, place Homosexuality into Nature on purpose.

God didn't create us to live our lives in Black and White lines. Not all men have to be men, and not all girls have to be Girls. God loves them the same no matter what they do. God is accepting, and if He were to walk on this earth, he would be very much accepting of his Trans and Gay followers. He would love and accept them for who they are, for he is God, and God is kind to all.

And, you know, there have been so many Homophobes here saying "Oh, I'm fine with Homosexuals, but they just can't get married, or adopt kids, or display their affection, or any of that other live stuff that Heterosexual Couples are certainly entitled to!" It's enough. Do you not want the gays to display affection in Public? Well, the Heterosexuals might as well be forced to do so as well. Can't get married? Well, it would be only fair if we banned Homosexuals from getting married too. Can't adopt Children? Well, we might as well apply the same to Heterosexuals, and let the Orphans rot. Yep. How much would you like it, if you're unable to even show your love for the person you love? You cannot say you support Gay equal rights and oppose Gay public affection and be intellectually honest in doing so.

God did NOT place homosexuality in nature. Read the Bible if you are so informed.

Oh, really? There are plenty of things the Bible wasn't clear on, and if God didn't create Homosexuality, who did? Because it most certainly exists as a natural thing.

And no, Satan is not a legitimate answer.

[Liriena]

Thirdly, I already explained that I consider equal marriage and equal rights two different things.

Your consideration is duly noted... and dismissed. In the eyes of the law, marriage is a right, which means that, in a discussion regarding equal rights, equal marriage must necessarily be entailed. If you refuse to acknowledge this, then your opinion on the equal right to marriage cannot be taken seriously. A debate on equal rights cannot be had if one of the sides of it does not acknowledge the legal foundations of the debate.

[Liriena]

Tumblr is... a special place.

Can we please not perpetuate the prejudices and stereotypes against Tumblr? Yeah, there's some peculiar people in there, but if we keep using Tumblr as a buzzword, we are effectively throwing countless good, intelligent and valuable people under the bus in the name of an unfair overgeneralisation.

[Liriena]

God did NOT place homosexuality in nature. Read the Bible if you are so informed.

If God did not "place" homosexuality in nature, then why have homosexuality and bisexuality been observed in hundreds of species?

[Cannot think of a name]

Tumblr is... a special place.

Can we please not perpetuate the prejudices and stereotypes against Tumblr? Yeah, there's some peculiar people in there, but if we keep using Tumblr as a buzzword, we are effectively throwing countless good, intelligent and valuable people under the bus in the name of an unfair overgeneralisation.

But then where will we get our cheap and easy air of unfounded intellectual superiority? Being snarky? That's ever so mildly difficult.

[Geanna]

To everyone wondering why I don't agree with that, I know (in real life) adopted children of LGBT couples who said that they are bullied at school because of having same-sex parents and that they wished they'd have a normal family. One of my friends (adopted child of two mothers) is part of a international organization against LGBT's or something like that. So, basically, there are children who have a bad life due to having two same-sex parents. This is my argument.

In my religion, homosexuality is considered a sin, by the way. And, if anyone will say "You're a freaking homophobe!", I am not. I actually have LGBT friends and I have no problem with them. The thing is that, I believe that you are not born like this, and something/somebody that is part of your life made you be gay/transgender and so on. Because, God (yes, I believe in God, all atheists out there) did the man to be man and girl to be girl. There is no such thing as a boy being born and feeling like a girl inside or vice-versa. There's also no such thing as a girl/boy falling in love with somebody of their own gender, since God did not make us like that.

On the other hand, I agree with LGBT's having equal rights to us, since they are people like that. The only things I don't want to see is LGBT's marrying and having children (I explained why) or LGBT's showing their affection in public.

So basically - you've given us a bunch of anecdotes... that really prove nothing.

I'm not racist, I have black friends kinda argument.

[Geanna]

That's absolute bullshit. Homosexual behavior among Animals has been observed in nature, even among the Chimps we are descended from. Homosexuality is a natural thing, so the next time anybody wants to say 'Oh, Homosexuals weren't born that way!', no. They were. It is an irreplaceable part of them. It is their nature. So if we're going by the God, thing, it would very much seem that God did, in fact, place Homosexuality into Nature on purpose.

God didn't create us to live our lives in Black and White lines. Not all men have to be men, and not all girls have to be Girls. God loves them the same no matter what they do. God is accepting, and if He were to walk on this earth, he would be very much accepting of his Trans and Gay followers. He would love and accept them for who they are, for he is God, and God is kind to all.

And, you know, there have been so many Homophobes here saying "Oh, I'm fine with Homosexuals, but they just can't get married, or adopt kids, or display their affection, or any of that other live stuff that Heterosexual Couples are certainly entitled to!" It's enough. Do you not want the gays to display affection in Public? Well, the Heterosexuals might as well be forced to do so as well. Can't get married? Well, it would be only fair if we banned Homosexuals from getting married too. Can't adopt Children? Well, we might as well apply the same to Heterosexuals, and let the Orphans rot. Yep. How much would you like it, if you're unable to even show your love for the person you love? You cannot say you support Gay equal rights and oppose Gay public affection and be intellectually honest in doing so.

God did NOT place homosexuality in nature. Read the Bible if you are so informed.

I was a Catholic once, I've read the Bible - it's a contradictory mess having an existential crisis. Taking it literal is a very bad idea - unless you wanna go stone some people. Simply backing up on the Bible is a bit like building a wall and trying to convince people it's a house - we only have the wall [not that it's a very good and put together wall] but a wall nonetheless - without the rest of the house.

Now, unless you're Jewish - the OT is practically useless to you, you're no longer bound by it [unless you wanna stone some peeps] - adhering to it still is quite an insult to Jesus, that'd be like saying, "Hey mate, I know you died on the cross and all so we didn't have to go by the old law anymore - but um... fuck off mate, you died in vain, kthx".

Now outside of that, and a few of the inconsiderations towards the loss of translation from Greek and Aramaic, to Hebrew, to Latin et cetera - you are in fact, still treating people different, and that is an extension of judgement, which by the Bible is quite the insult to the Almighty himself. Do you have to agree with Homosexuality? Of course not - but while you're on the planet, civil law applies to the law of the land, religious law is only for your own salvation - influencing Civil Law via religion, to treat a group of people differently is in fact judgement and will in fact, not grant you your salvation.

So - you believe homosexuality is a sin - alright, that's fine and dandy, worry for yourself. It isn't your place to determine how they should be treated, it's really that simple. Their homosexuality, is - in the end, not going to affect your salvation [assuming God and heaven and all that really does exist yadda yadda], in the end, you are only responsible for yourself, and must learn to get along and treat people as was said, equal - or the more special, "Love thy fucking neighbour"

[New Jordslag]

God did NOT place homosexuality in nature. Read the Bible if you are so informed.

I was a Catholic once, I've read the Bible - it's a contradictory mess having an existential crisis. Taking it literal is a very bad idea - unless you wanna go stone some people. Simply backing up on the Bible is a bit like building a wall and trying to convince people it's a house - we only have the wall [not that it's a very good and put together wall] but a wall nonetheless - without the rest of the house.

Now, unless you're Jewish - the OT is practically useless to you, you're no longer bound by it [unless you wanna stone some peeps] - adhering to it still is quite an insult to Jesus, that'd be like saying, "Hey mate, I know you died on the cross and all so we didn't have to go by the old law anymore - but um... fuck off mate, you died in vain, kthx".

Now outside of that, and a few of the inconsiderations towards the loss of translation from Greek and Aramaic, to Hebrew, to Latin et cetera - you are in fact, still treating people different, and that is an extension of judgement, which by the Bible is quite the insult to the Almighty himself. Do you have to agree with Homosexuality? Of course not - but while you're on the planet, civil law applies to the law of the land, religious law is only for your own salvation - influencing Civil Law via religion, to treat a group of people differently is in fact judgement and will in fact, not grant you your salvation.

So - you believe homosexuality is a sin - alright, that's fine and dandy, worry for yourself. It isn't your place to determine how they should be treated, it's really that simple. Their homosexuality, is - in the end, not going to affect your salvation [assuming God and heaven and all that really does exist yadda yadda], in the end, you are only responsible for yourself, and must learn to get along and treat people as was said, equal - or the more special, "Love thy fucking neighbour"

You are now my new favorite person.

[Arbitrary Humans]

To everyone wondering why I don't agree with that, I know (in real life) adopted children of LGBT couples who said that they are bullied at school because of having same-sex parents and that they wished they'd have a normal family. One of my friends (adopted child of two mothers) is part of a international organization against LGBT's or something like that. So, basically, there are children who have a bad life due to having two same-sex parents. This is my argument.

In my religion, homosexuality is considered a sin, by the way. And, if anyone will say "You're a freaking homophobe!", I am not. I actually have LGBT friends and I have no problem with them. The thing is that, I believe that you are not born like this, and something/somebody that is part of your life made you be gay/transgender and so on. Because, God (yes, I believe in God, all atheists out there) did the man to be man and girl to be girl. There is no such thing as a boy being born and feeling like a girl inside or vice-versa. There's also no such thing as a girl/boy falling in love with somebody of their own gender, since God did not make us like that.

On the other hand, I agree with LGBT's having equal rights to us, since they are people like that. The only things I don't want to see is LGBT's marrying and having children (I explained why) or LGBT's showing their affection in public.

Oh for fuck's sake

If God is real, then we know from the Old Testament that he created the world and man. Therefore, he created homosexuals. AND if he considered it a sin, why the fuck would he make them in the first place? Or would you just let me call God short-sighted? So you see, Christianity poses more questions than it does hypocritical answers.

Secondly, have you checked the demographic for children being bullied for having same sex parents? Ever? No? Then here they are: Firstly, only 1.7% of all American children have same sex parents. Secondly, only 37% reported physical or mental harm because of this fact. That is 0.629% of the entire population of children with same sex parents. That is roughly 468,000 children out of the 1 million children with gay parents, and out of the 74.5 million children in the USA. That would be 1 out of 160 children.

I am not turning a deaf ear to their plight-- I would beat the living hell out of the people torturing them if I could. I am, however, pointing out that saying that those children are a reason why gay marriage shouldn't be allowed is a statistic fallacy and an emotional one too. What if those children stayed at an orphanage their entire life? Or maybe were never born?

Not only that, but saying that you aren't born gay is like saying you were born with no arteries. It's just stupid. As we as humans grow up, there is always a predetermined latent affection for one sex or the other. Whether that has to do with something inside the womb I wouldn't know, because I'm not a obstetrician. This only shows itself later in life, and could indeed by caused by some event in their child life, however it is never a specific person that does it. It just happens, like when you realize that all that stuff you parents told you about storks flying around with babies in their beaks isn't true. You may reject it at first, but most people eventually come to terms with their sexuality.

Now, you can go sod off to the AFA comments section, and don't come back here again.

[Arbitrary Humans]

This is about infringing upon other people's rights.

Ah, yes. Are you aware that there is a difference between entitlement to government services and liberty from government interference?

What the fuck does that have to do with ANYTHING?!

[Arbitrary Humans]

I've come to the conclusion that fighting liberal zombies is as fruitless as attempting to convince a Putin supporter that Ukraine has been invaded by Russia.

This is my final attempt to provide you with an alternative view on the issue.

This person put things about the issue in a well worded way and I hope you read it.
http://www.girlsaskguys.com/sexual-behavior/a10573-confessions-of-a-narrow-minded-bigot-my-christian-thoughts-regarding

I will do one more thing, since people don't seem to know the definition of tolerance and bigotry I am posting them below.

Tolerance - A fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward opinions, beliefs, and practices that differ from one's own. (Dictionary.com)

Bigotry - Intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself (Oxford Dictionaries)

May I point out that most liberals aren't bigots, they don't like others because the others can't pull up the correct fucking facts to prove anything. Good thing is, most of the others have such fucked up bases for their argument that we spend very little effort tearing them apart.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

That's absolute bullshit. Homosexual behavior among Animals has been observed in nature, even among the Chimps we are descended from. Homosexuality is a natural thing, so the next time anybody wants to say 'Oh, Homosexuals weren't born that way!', no. They were. It is an irreplaceable part of them. It is their nature. So if we're going by the God, thing, it would very much seem that God did, in fact, place Homosexuality into Nature on purpose.

God didn't create us to live our lives in Black and White lines. Not all men have to be men, and not all girls have to be Girls. God loves them the same no matter what they do. God is accepting, and if He were to walk on this earth, he would be very much accepting of his Trans and Gay followers. He would love and accept them for who they are, for he is God, and God is kind to all.

And, you know, there have been so many Homophobes here saying "Oh, I'm fine with Homosexuals, but they just can't get married, or adopt kids, or display their affection, or any of that other live stuff that Heterosexual Couples are certainly entitled to!" It's enough. Do you not want the gays to display affection in Public? Well, the Heterosexuals might as well be forced to do so as well. Can't get married? Well, it would be only fair if we banned Homosexuals from getting married too. Can't adopt Children? Well, we might as well apply the same to Heterosexuals, and let the Orphans rot. Yep. How much would you like it, if you're unable to even show your love for the person you love? You cannot say you support Gay equal rights and oppose Gay public affection and be intellectually honest in doing so.

God did NOT place homosexuality in nature. Read the Bible if you are so informed.

If God did anything, it was to create a universe where shit happens.

There's no single reason why homosexuality wouldn't exist in a universe so probabilistic as ours.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Yeah, fuck human rights! Fuck the Constitution! Tyranny by the majority forever!

But then everybody's stupid opinion will matter, no matter how black or jewish or female they are.

We can't let that happen! The Homofascist Marxists may have won the battle, but they haven't won the war, damn it!

*caresses chin of life-size statue of Joseph McCarthy, brings pictures of George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan to bed*

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I agree with the LGBT equal rights, but I do not agree with equal marriage, and please do not judge me for that.

Oops, too late.

I do not agree with equal marriage because of more reasons. If anyone wants to know them, I can say them.

Do so.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

God did NOT place homosexuality in nature. Read the Bible if you are so informed.

Who did, then? Was God's plan... *gasp* flawed?

[Sun Wukong]

God did NOT place homosexuality in nature. Read the Bible if you are so informed.

Who did, then? Was God's plan... *gasp* flawed?

He was going through a weird phase when he made the Hyenas.

[May Mays]

But guess what?

God is a fraud. A big fraud!

Oops cat's out of the bag.

Even if God existed, the Bible would still be bullshit because the only people that wrote it were just that - normal people.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

There's also no such thing as a girl/boy falling in love with somebody of their own gender, since God did not make us like that.

Please exit that dark and dank place that you call your room and look outside.

See those two male mallards kissing? I DO TO. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?!

The only things I don't want to see is LGBT's marrying and having children (I explained why) or LGBT's showing their affection in public

I saw a straight couple in public kissing in a summer school picking up a friend of mine, and I did not care.

Now tell me, if I decided to kiss someone of the same sex, how does that make a difference? Is it because our god is disgusted?

Well guess what, when god sends me to hell I'm going to have a gay party and he's not invited he can go shove a cactus up his butt.

On the other hand, I agree with LGBT's having equal rights to us, since they are people like that.

The only things I don't want to see is LGBT's showing their affection in public

There is no such thing as a boy being born and feeling like a girl inside or vice-versa.

The very least you can do is study medicine and find out about Gender Identity Disorder.

The very least.

One of my friends (adopted child of two mothers) is part of a international organization against LGBT's or something like that. So, basically, there are children who have a bad life due to having two same-sex parents. This is my argument.

Anecdotals make terrible fucking argument. I have a friend who has two dads and isn't discriminated against.

The thing is that, I believe that you are not born like this, and something/somebody that is part of your life made you be gay/transgender and so on.

I guess my straight Christian parents decided to show me gay porn and I turned gay af.