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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:47 am

Free Tristania wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Polls are nifty.

Hardly. Polls mean nothing since polls can be manipulated by having only a certain number of people vote.
The only things that matter are referendums and elections.

Wrong.

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Postby Donut section » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:48 am

West Aurelia wrote:
Donut section wrote:This is good.

Go America.

Now to wait for Tony Abbot to be booted out as Prime Minister here in Australia so we can get the same thing.


His sister is lesbian, and yet he opposes same-sex marriage.


Oh, I know.

It's why we need to wait for it.

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Postby Galloism » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:48 am

Maineiacs wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Doesn't the Bible (Old Testament at least) promote Polygamy?



Yes. Solomon had 1000 wives.

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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:48 am

Communist German States wrote:
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:Congratulations America for focusing a bit more on what your politics has said since your inception: "That all men are created equal."

Many of the Founding Fathers would have been disappointed.

The Founding Fathers can go fuck themselves.

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Postby Free Tristania » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:48 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Free Tristania wrote:Hardly. Polls mean nothing since polls can be manipulated by having only a certain number of people vote.
The only things that matter are referendums and elections.


Polls from many different organizations at many different time periods all saying the same thing tend to say a lot about what people feel about a topic.

If you ask a 1000 people or 10000 people for their opinions on the matter when having a population of 300 million people those polls are completely meaningless.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:48 am

We legalized it before the Germans. Damn.

But, seriously, great news, this was coming sooner or later, and marriage rights are finally equal, yada yada. I'd continue, but I'd be reiterating what dozens of NSGers and pundits have said on this matter. I'll celebrate by failing a test and drinking some champagne.
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Postby Free Tristania » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:48 am

Merizoc wrote:
Free Tristania wrote:Hardly. Polls mean nothing since polls can be manipulated by having only a certain number of people vote.
The only things that matter are referendums and elections.

Wrong.

So you're against democracy ?
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Postby Kelinfort » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:48 am

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Kelinfort wrote:14th?

*grumbles* yes, i know

So far the 14th seems to be the worst amendment yet
gay marriage
abortion(?)

Who knew privacy and equal protection under the law sucked?

I mean, are you actually insisting we kept/keep blacks, minorities, and gays as second class citizens?

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Postby The 93rd Coalition » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:49 am

Maineiacs wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Doesn't the Bible (Old Testament at least) promote Polygamy?



Yes. Solomon had 1000 wives.


That's generally not been considered an endorsement of polygamy. Solomon has been emphasized as one of the more sinful kings of the bible. His kingdom tore itself apart with his progeny.

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Postby The 502nd SS » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:49 am

Maineiacs wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Doesn't the Bible (Old Testament at least) promote Polygamy?



Yes. Solomon had 1000 wives.

I think we get our rules from the new testament
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:49 am

United Individuals of Us wrote:Why is the Federal Government in the Marriage Business to begin with?


Because marriage is a contract between society and a couple ? Who else should be involved ?
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:49 am

West Aurelia wrote:
Donut section wrote:This is good.

Go America.

Now to wait for Tony Abbot to be booted out as Prime Minister here in Australia so we can get the same thing.


His sister is lesbian, and yet he opposes same-sex marriage.

Even if he did support it, he can't call a vote because of the party position on the matter. Neither of the two main parties in Australia support SSM. The "leftists" were in power from 2007 to 2013 and did not attempt to introduce a bill on the matter.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:49 am

West Aurelia wrote:
Donut section wrote:This is good.

Go America.

Now to wait for Tony Abbot to be booted out as Prime Minister here in Australia so we can get the same thing.


His sister is lesbian, and yet he opposes same-sex marriage.


Why is the fact that Tony Abbot is a backwards bigoted [EXPLETIVE DELETED] news to people?
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Postby Ganos Lao » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:49 am

The 502nd SS wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

Yes. Solomon had 1000 wives.

I think we get our rules from the new testament


So why are women not silent in the churches?



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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:49 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Communist German States wrote:Many of the Founding Fathers would have been disappointed.

The Founding Fathers can go fuck themselves.


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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:49 am

Free Tristania wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Wrong.

So you're against democracy ?

I'm against ignorance, which is what you're displaying with regards to polling.

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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:50 am

Free Tristania wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Polls from many different organizations at many different time periods all saying the same thing tend to say a lot about what people feel about a topic.

If you ask a 1000 people or 10000 people for their opinions on the matter when having a population of 300 million people those polls are completely meaningless.


No it is not, these things tend to be done very specifically to ensure that population samples work and are representative.
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Postby The 502nd SS » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:50 am

Kelinfort wrote:
The 502nd SS wrote:*grumbles* yes, i know

So far the 14th seems to be the worst amendment yet
gay marriage
abortion(?)

Who knew privacy and equal protection under the law sucked?

I mean, are you actually insisting we kept/keep blacks, minorities, and gays as second class citizens?

I listed the bad parts >_>
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Postby Lyannesia » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:50 am

Any negative reactions yet?

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Postby Risottia » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:50 am

The 502nd SS wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

Yes. Solomon had 1000 wives.

I think we get our rules from the new testament

"We" who?
Americans, or Christians? Neither implies the other.
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Postby Norstal » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:50 am

Free Tristania wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Polls from many different organizations at many different time periods all saying the same thing tend to say a lot about what people feel about a topic.

If you ask a 1000 people or 10000 people for their opinions on the matter when having a population of 300 million people those polls are completely meaningless.

Someone hasn't taken statistics before. Or else you'd probably know what "statistically significant" means.
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Postby West Aurelia » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:50 am

Lyannesia wrote:Any negative reactions yet?


A few in this thread.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:50 am

The 502nd SS wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Who knew privacy and equal protection under the law sucked?

I mean, are you actually insisting we kept/keep blacks, minorities, and gays as second class citizens?

I listed the bad parts >_>


What bad parts?
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:51 am

Lyannesia wrote:Any negative reactions yet?


No. Pat Robertson has probably had a stroke, but I can't say that's negative.
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Postby The 502nd SS » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:51 am

Ganos Lao wrote:
The 502nd SS wrote:I think we get our rules from the new testament


So why are women not silent in the churches?

depends on the church
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