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The Floating Island of the Sleeping God
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Postby The Floating Island of the Sleeping God » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:56 pm

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Benuty wrote:An immediate albeit very disorganized state given there is no major Imperial Wizard figure like there was in the mid 20th century. So basically its a bunch of groups claiming to be the Klan when they are merely fragments without claim.

I want to be an Imperial Wizard.

I fucking love that this group of ultra-hardcore racist criminals has ranks like wizard and dragon. I know they're a serious threat...but at the same time, what a bunch of nerds, right?
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Postby Maineiacs » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:56 pm

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The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:Letting the entire population vote on the rights of 5% of the populations is like letting a group of 95 wolves and 5 sheep vote on who they should eat for dinner.


It's wrong in principle of course, rights are innate and inherent after all.

Nonetheless, popular votes in Maine, Maryland, Washington (all in 2012) and Ireland (2015) did all successfully establish marriage equality.



Maine first banned it (2010). then next election cycle allowed it. All this proves, I think, is that people will vote for the slickest ad campaign and illustrates why civil right should never be put to popular vote.
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Postby Auroya » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:58 pm

What I really enjoy is the large amount of people who think that democracy = tyranny of the majority.
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Postby Middle Pacific » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:00 pm

Auroya wrote:What I really enjoy is the large amount of people who think that democracy = tyranny of the majority.


Not at all. Democracy is good, and so is human rights. The mob cannot take away the rights of a minority - rights and freedoms are innate and inherent - which is what the 14th Amendment protects.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:01 pm

Auroya wrote:What I really enjoy is the large amount of people who think that democracy = tyranny of the majority.


Because fuck minorities, amirite? They don't need protections. That wastes space in the Town Hall for more laws.
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Postby Auroya » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:02 pm

Middle Pacific wrote:
Auroya wrote:What I really enjoy is the large amount of people who think that democracy = tyranny of the majority.


Not at all. Democracy is good, and so is human rights. The mob cannot take away the rights of a minority - rights and freedoms are innate and inherent - which is what the 14th Amendment protects.


Yes. I know. I agree with you. I was being sarcastic, I don't like it at all.

But there's a worrying amount of people who would like to use the cry of 'democracy' to override that amendment in order to satisfy their bigotry or whatever it may be, and strip a minority of their rights - the tyranny of the majority.
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Postby New Jordslag » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:04 pm

The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:I want to be an Imperial Wizard.

I fucking love that this group of ultra-hardcore racist criminals has ranks like wizard and dragon. I know they're a serious threat...but at the same time, what a bunch of nerds, right?

I imagine that all they like to do, besides killing people, is sit in whatever villainous version of the Batcave they have and play Dungeons & Dragons.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:05 pm

The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:I want to be an Imperial Wizard.

I fucking love that this group of ultra-hardcore racist criminals has ranks like wizard and dragon. I know they're a serious threat...but at the same time, what a bunch of nerds, right?


If they were real nerds, they'd go the Game of Thrones route or the Mad Max route.

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Postby Grenartia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:06 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:This is about infringing upon other people's rights.

Ah, yes. Are you aware that there is a difference between entitlement to government services and liberty from government interference?


Entitlement to liberty from government interference in equal protection.
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Postby New Jordslag » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:07 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:I fucking love that this group of ultra-hardcore racist criminals has ranks like wizard and dragon. I know they're a serious threat...but at the same time, what a bunch of nerds, right?


If they were real nerds, they'd go the Game of Thrones route or the Mad Max route.

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Postby Sam Hyde » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:08 pm

Meryuma wrote:It's the removal of prohibitions, not the imposition of them. CM has the right idea.

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This is the kind of thing that should be handled by the police, and if worst comes to worst, the military. Two groups of killers fighting in the streets is hardly a solution.

Though of course, I respect anyone's right to use force to the extent that it is necessary to defend themselves from an immediate threat.


What do you do when many among the police take the KKK's side? Victims of police killings are disproportionately black.


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Postby Grenartia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:08 pm

The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:I want to be an Imperial Wizard.

I fucking love that this group of ultra-hardcore racist criminals has ranks like wizard and dragon. I know they're a serious threat...but at the same time, what a bunch of nerds, right?


And, like, fucking seriously, they've taken /the best/ names. Why couldn't they call themselves "Head racist guy" and "Chief black guy lyncher"?
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:09 pm

New Jordslag wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
If they were real nerds, they'd go the Game of Thrones route or the Mad Max route.

I want to be the Imperious Phallusmeister of Destructioning.

I want to be the Glorious Dragon of Grandis Verpa.


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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:11 pm

The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:I want to be an Imperial Wizard.

I fucking love that this group of ultra-hardcore racist criminals has ranks like wizard and dragon. I know they're a serious threat...but at the same time, what a bunch of nerds, right?


I can just imagine a bunch of white-hooded klan members sitting in a basement and playing a round of D&D.
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Postby The Floating Island of the Sleeping God » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:11 pm

Grenartia wrote:
The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:I fucking love that this group of ultra-hardcore racist criminals has ranks like wizard and dragon. I know they're a serious threat...but at the same time, what a bunch of nerds, right?


And, like, fucking seriously, they've taken /the best/ names. Why couldn't they call themselves "Head racist guy" and "Chief black guy lyncher"?

Say I'm writing a fantasy story featuring an empire that employs both dragons and wizards. I'm going to need to be very careful about how I write that story to avoid unfortunate sentences.
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Postby Middle Pacific » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:11 pm

The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:I want to be an Imperial Wizard.

I fucking love that this group of ultra-hardcore racist criminals has ranks like wizard and dragon. I know they're a serious threat...but at the same time, what a bunch of nerds, right?


Violently racist nerds - a rare occurrence.
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:12 pm

Grenartia wrote:
The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:I fucking love that this group of ultra-hardcore racist criminals has ranks like wizard and dragon. I know they're a serious threat...but at the same time, what a bunch of nerds, right?


And, like, fucking seriously, they've taken /the best/ names. Why couldn't they call themselves "Head racist guy" and "Chief black guy lyncher"?


I will say it again, I wish those who were against equal rights for us faggots were more honest about their hatred for us.

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Postby Grenartia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:14 pm

Valrifell wrote:
The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:I fucking love that this group of ultra-hardcore racist criminals has ranks like wizard and dragon. I know they're a serious threat...but at the same time, what a bunch of nerds, right?


I can just imagine a bunch of white-hooded klan members sitting in a basement and playing a round of D&D.


I imagine, compared to the D&D community as a whole, they have fewer flamewars over which race is best.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:18 pm

Grenartia wrote:
The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:I fucking love that this group of ultra-hardcore racist criminals has ranks like wizard and dragon. I know they're a serious threat...but at the same time, what a bunch of nerds, right?


And, like, fucking seriously, they've taken /the best/ names. Why couldn't they call themselves "Head racist guy" and "Chief black guy lyncher"?

You know what? We should start a Klan reformation just for the names. Simultaneously mock the KKK AND spread a message of tolerance and equality, while wearing silly black outfits.
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:21 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
And, like, fucking seriously, they've taken /the best/ names. Why couldn't they call themselves "Head racist guy" and "Chief black guy lyncher"?

You know what? We should start a Klan reformation just for the names. Simultaneously mock the KKK AND spread a message of tolerance and equality, while wearing silly black outfits.


Make it a Cosplay group.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:22 pm

Godular wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:You know what? We should start a Klan reformation just for the names. Simultaneously mock the KKK AND spread a message of tolerance and equality, while wearing silly black outfits.


Make it a Cosplay group.

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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:26 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Godular wrote:
Make it a Cosplay group.

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kek


Or a Laundromat.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:32 pm

Godular wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:kek


Or a Laundromat.

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Postby New Jordslag » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:34 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
I can just imagine a bunch of white-hooded klan members sitting in a basement and playing a round of D&D.


I imagine, compared to the D&D community as a whole, they have fewer flamewars over which race is best.

I wouldn't be surprised. The D&D Community has very strong opinions on the individual races.

Valrifell wrote:
The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:I fucking love that this group of ultra-hardcore racist criminals has ranks like wizard and dragon. I know they're a serious threat...but at the same time, what a bunch of nerds, right?


I can just imagine a bunch of white-hooded klan members sitting in a basement and playing a round of D&D.

Hey, that's exactly what I said!
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:36 pm

New Jordslag wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
I imagine, compared to the D&D community as a whole, they have fewer flamewars over which race is best.

I wouldn't be surprised. The D&D Community has very strong opinions on the individual races.

Valrifell wrote:
I can just imagine a bunch of white-hooded klan members sitting in a basement and playing a round of D&D.

Hey, that's exactly what I said!


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