Confederate Emblems to be Removed Nationwide.

[Nordengrund]

This is NSG. No one uses reason here.

Not everyone here is a neo-confederate...

I never said I was a neo-Confederate. That would be quite hypocritical if I were one because I have a quote by William Sherman in my sig.

[Morrow den]

Yep. I know I am going to get hate for this because apparently the confederate in NS is as bad as Nazis and terrorist together. I can understand getting rid of it on state capitols and the Mississippi flag but why remove it from everywhere. Especially Confederate cemetery's and important battles.

No I am not some redneck with a big a big Confderate battle flag on my truck. Also I am not some Neo-Confederate nation because I know someone in this big circlejerk of "Confederate bad!" Is going to say it. I am just someone trying to understand other opinions.

[Des-Bal]

Probably gonna get hate for this, but here we go.

This is the same excuse as the Swastika. It was once a symbol of unity and labour and peace used by the wrong people and now everyone associates it with that.

The Southern Stars and Bars is a memorial to our nation's history, a time when ideologies were clashing. While the northern states wanted freedom and unity, the south wanted individualism and states rights. The slavery thing was a big issue, but at the time of the Civil War, both the North and South had slaves.

Certain groups like the KKK have used the southern symbolism as a means to express themselves fully as a white supremacists group, but that was not the South's main goal. As my history class told me, Slavery lit the powder keg, but the Battle was far more than that and it makes me sad that the nation is removing an important aspect of our history because of a recent incident.

That's my two cents. I am against slavery but to hide a part of history is wrong. That's like Germany hiding Nazism and the holocaust.

Your history class explained some complicated aspects of a simple issue. The civil war was ENTIRELY about slavery. The states rights shit was JUST about the state's rights to have slaves. The difference between the north and south were ENTIRELY about slavery. The arguments about the expansion of the country and power in congress were all JUST about slavery. The more you look at the civil war the more you realize that it was all really just about slavery.

[Ifreann]

Yep. I know I am going to get hate for this because apparently the confederate in NS is as bad as Nazis and terrorist together. I can understand getting rid of it on state capitols and the Mississippi flag but why remove it from everywhere. Especially Confederate cemetery's and important battles.

Because the people who own those flags and own the businesses that sell them are deciding that they don't want to be associated with people like Dylan Roof.

[Wolfenia]

Can anyone wait for this to be wasting space in every single debate durring the next election next year? I can wait, I can wait 10,000 years for that.

[Cymrea]

Yep. I know I am going to get hate for this because apparently the confederate in NS is as bad as Nazis and terrorist together. I can understand getting rid of it on state capitols and the Mississippi flag but why remove it from everywhere. Especially Confederate cemetery's and important battles.

No I am not some redneck with a big a big Confderate battle flag on my truck. Also I am not some Neo-Confederate nation because I know someone in this big circlejerk of "Confederate bad!" Is going to say it. I am just someone trying to understand other opinions.

You sound rather defensive. You don't want to be labelled, but then you describe anyone that believes Confederate defence of slavery to be bad as participating in a circlejerk, and make the assumption that someone in your self-described circlejerk is going to jump your shit before anyone does any such thing.

You may not be Neo-Confederate, but you are a bit of a hypocrite. And, evidently, somewhat insecure.

[Aurulie]

Yep. I know I am going to get hate for this because apparently the confederate in NS is as bad as Nazis and terrorist together. I can understand getting rid of it on state capitols and the Mississippi flag but why remove it from everywhere. Especially Confederate cemetery's and important battles.

No I am not some redneck with a big a big Confderate battle flag on my truck. Also I am not some Neo-Confederate nation because I know someone in this big circlejerk of "Confederate bad!" Is going to say it. I am just someone trying to understand other opinions.

I don't think people want it removed everywhere, but rather put in "its place." Its place is private property, museums, and textbooks. Civil War Battlefields are a gray area, because traitors/enemies shouldn't be respected at all.

[Aurulie]

Yep. I know I am going to get hate for this because apparently the confederate in NS is as bad as Nazis and terrorist together. I can understand getting rid of it on state capitols and the Mississippi flag but why remove it from everywhere. Especially Confederate cemetery's and important battles.

No I am not some redneck with a big a big Confderate battle flag on my truck. Also I am not some Neo-Confederate nation because I know someone in this big circlejerk of "Confederate bad!" Is going to say it. I am just someone trying to understand other opinions.

I don't think people want it removed everywhere, but rather put in "its place." Its place is private property, museums, and textbooks. Civil War Battlefields are a gray area, because traitors/enemies shouldn't be respected at all.

[Skeckoa]

Amazon is full of shit. I could but Nazi flags off of Amazon, but somehow, Confederate flags are off-limits?

[Imperial States America]

Yep. I know I am going to get hate for this because apparently the confederate in NS is as bad as Nazis and terrorist together. I can understand getting rid of it on state capitols and the Mississippi flag but why remove it from everywhere. Especially Confederate cemetery's and important battles.

Because the people who own those flags and own the businesses that sell them are deciding that they don't want to be associated with people like Dylan Roof.

Actually they started to take down confederate flags because of the media which is the root cause of this whole confederate flag deal. I mumble a lot to myself about news stories and warning I will be cursing here but its not directed to anyone in particular I thought why do these assholes waste their energy on a subject completely unrelated to the shooting. If they get so bent up and angry over the shooting of one black person and to point of rioting then why the hell cant they use that same energy to actually do something more productive like if they truly want Black lives to matter then why not start by getting rid of the root problems such as gang culture and unsatisfactory education. End rant

[Maichuko]

I just heard there going to digitally remove the confederate flag from the general Lee on dukes of hazard from now on. that's strange.

[Eastern Equestria]

Amazon is full of shit. I could but Nazi flags off of Amazon, but somehow, Confederate flags are off-limits?

^This

I just heard there going to digitally remove the confederate flag from the general Lee on dukes of hazard from now on. that's strange.

Funny you should say that. While driving to go see my dentist this morning, I saw someone cruising in a General Lee-themed Dodge Charger, complete with the confederate flag on its roof. And I live in Yankee country, which made it seem even more odd.

[Wallenburg]

I just heard there going to digitally remove the confederate flag from the general Lee on dukes of hazard from now on. that's strange.

I'll believe it when you give me a link to this rumor, and when you stop butchering the English language.

[Tayner]

Amazon is full of shit. I could but Nazi flags off of Amazon, but somehow, Confederate flags are off-limits?

^This

I just heard there going to digitally remove the confederate flag from the general Lee on dukes of hazard from now on. that's strange.

Funny you should say that. While driving to go see my dentist this morning, I saw someone cruising in a General Lee-themed Dodge Charger, complete with the confederate flag on its roof. And I live in Yankee country, which made it seem even more odd.

The actual charger of the show was a '69. What year was the one you saw?

[Eastern Equestria]

I just heard there going to digitally remove the confederate flag from the general Lee on dukes of hazard from now on. that's strange.

I'll believe it when you give me a link to this rumor, and when you stop butchering the English language.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /29210683/

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Funny you should say that. While driving to go see my dentist this morning, I saw someone cruising in a General Lee-themed Dodge Charger, complete with the confederate flag on its roof. And I live in Yankee country, which made it seem even more odd.

The actual charger of the show was a '69. What year was the one you saw?

It wasn't a '69, it was one of those new Chargers.

[Wallenburg]

I'll believe it when you give me a link to this rumor, and when you stop butchering the English language.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /29210683/

The actual charger of the show was a '69. What year was the one you saw?

It wasn't a '69, it was one of those new Chargers.

Huh. That's a little overboard, but it's their private decision.

[Imperial States America]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /29210683/


It wasn't a '69, it was one of those new Chargers.

Huh. That's a little overboard, but it's their private decision.

This has turned into a modern day Salem Witch hunt which is despicable

[Tigeria]

The confederate flag doesn't represent hate, racism, or slavery. The confederate flag represents the phrase "Cross us out!" As the X and stars represent the union, so if anything it's a flag of rebellion and treason, so it's good that it's being taken down.

[Ifreann]

Because the people who own those flags and own the businesses that sell them are deciding that they don't want to be associated with people like Dylan Roof.

Actually they started to take down confederate flags because of the media which is the root cause of this whole confederate flag deal.

Yeah, of course. "The media". Not the racist terrorist who clearly had a fondness for the flag and who organisations concerned with their public image would logically want to distance themselves from, but "the media". Obviously.

[Imperial States America]

The confederate flag doesn't represent hate, racism, or slavery. The confederate flag represents the phrase "Cross us out!" As the X and stars represent the union, so if anything it's a flag of rebellion and treason, so it's good that it's being taken down.

Then we should take down the American flag as well because that's what it stood for during the revolution but we didn't its biased and unfair because the 1st amendment protects the right of speech and the confederate flag is covered just like the Nazi flag or the Iranian flag or the North Korean flag all is protected whether we agree with it or not. this country has turned into a nation of f@@@ the constitutional rights of America.

[The Krogan]

My neighbor has a confederate flag on his front porch, and it's annoying how he thinks he's the coolest shit in the community for having it. (Rant)

[White Chrobatia]

Actually they started to take down confederate flags because of the media which is the root cause of this whole confederate flag deal.

Yeah, of course. "The media". Not the racist terrorist who clearly had a fondness for the flag and who organisations concerned with their public image would logically want to distance themselves from, but "the media". Obviously.

Well, in all fairness, the media made it a public thing and brought it to the attention of the masses, which started the snowball effect.

[Ifreann]

The confederate flag doesn't represent hate, racism, or slavery. The confederate flag represents the phrase "Cross us out!" As the X and stars represent the union, so if anything it's a flag of rebellion and treason, so it's good that it's being taken down.

Then we should take down the American flag as well because that's what it stood for during the revolution but we didn't its biased and unfair because the 1st amendment protects the right of speech and the confederate flag is covered just like the Nazi flag or the Iranian flag or the North Korean flag all is protected whether we agree with it or not. this country has turned into a nation of f@@@ the constitutional rights of America.

Please tell us whose rights are being violated.

[Tigeria]

The confederate flag doesn't represent hate, racism, or slavery. The confederate flag represents the phrase "Cross us out!" As the X and stars represent the union, so if anything it's a flag of rebellion and treason, so it's good that it's being taken down.

Then we should take down the American flag as well because that's what it stood for during the revolution but we didn't its biased and unfair because the 1st amendment protects the right of speech and the confederate flag is covered just like the Nazi flag or the Iranian flag or the North Korean flag all is protected whether we agree with it or not. this country has turned into a nation of f@@@ the constitutional rights of America.

Owning a flag of treason shouldn't a constitutional right and I support the constitution. I support free speech, I can not however support the right to fly or display the confederate flag.

[Saiwania]

Once this whole hullabaloo dies down, retailers will go back to selling confederate flags if there is still profit to be made from it. Mark my words.