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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:55 am

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Omega America II wrote:Odd fantasy story, what do you think. They kept it forever until the end of time. I highly doubt that.

I think slavery was abolished by the North after the slavers tried to secede to protect their peculiar institution.

Tried to secede to protect said institution eternally no less... Or at least that was their intention.
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Postby Omega America II » Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:55 am

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Omega America II wrote:Odd fantasy story, what do you think. They kept it forever until the end of time. I highly doubt that.

I think slavery was abolished by the North after the slavers tried to secede to protect their peculiar institution.

Ok, do you ever think about what would've happened? In any scenario?
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:56 am

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Dyakovo wrote:Doesn't change the fact that your erroneous claim is right there in your sig, and is thus attached to every post you make.
See, the thing is that the people with actual historical knowledge realize that slavery is the reason the that the confederate states tried to secede.


You would be surprised at how many history graduates I've heard say that the CSA seceded because of states rights and heritage.


You live in a Confederate state.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:57 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Doesn't change the fact that your erroneous claim is right there in your sig, and is thus attached to every post you make.
See, the thing is that the people with actual historical knowledge realize that slavery is the reason the that the confederate states tried to secede.


You would be surprised at how many history graduates I've heard say that the CSA seceded because of states rights and heritage.

No, I probably wouldn't be.
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Postby Laerod » Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:57 am

Omega America II wrote:
Laerod wrote:I think slavery was abolished by the North after the slavers tried to secede to protect their peculiar institution.

Ok, do you ever think about what would've happened? In any scenario?

Yeah, but for fun. I don't use it to whitewash a vile secession movement.

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Postby Omega America II » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:16 pm

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Omega America II wrote:Ok, do you ever think about what would've happened? In any scenario?

Yeah, but for fun. I don't use it to whitewash a vile secession movement.

I'm not trying to whitewash. I have to go now as well.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:18 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Cock logic.

Well, you don't. You also could talk about it.
Because my signature is true.

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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:18 pm

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Laerod wrote:Yeah, but for fun. I don't use it to whitewash a vile secession movement.

I'm not trying to whitewash. I have to go now as well.

Yes, you are.
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Postby Omega America II » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:18 pm

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Omega America II wrote:Well, you don't. You also could talk about it.
Because my signature is true.

Cock signature too.

Cock logic, cock signature, cock beliefs.

Thanks for the nice comment.
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Omega America II wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Cock signature too.

Cock logic, cock signature, cock beliefs.

Thanks for the nice comment.

You're welcome.
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Postby Omega America II » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:19 pm

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Omega America II wrote:I'm not trying to whitewash. I have to go now as well.

Yes, you are.
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Well, I didn't know that was whitewashing.
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Postby Divitaen » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:20 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Laerod wrote:Yeah, but for fun. I don't use it to whitewash a vile secession movement.

I'm not trying to whitewash. I have to go now as well.


Actually you are. The trend of your comments has been to excuse and apologise for a secessionist movement that was aimed at protecting slavery, as South Carolina explicitly lined out when they seceded. You do realise that even William T. Thompson who created the Confederate flag made it clear that his creation was meant to symbolise the "cause of a superior race" right? The Confederate flag is heritage yes, but a heritage of racial hate.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:22 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:Yes, you are.

Well, I didn't know that was whitewashing.

It is.
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Postby Laerod » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:22 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Yes, you are.

Well, I didn't know that was whitewashing.

You're spreading lies about what the Civil War started over and why the South seceded because having to admit that it was racist slavery makes the CSA and the slaver banner look bad.

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Postby Omega America II » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:22 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Omega America II wrote:Well, I didn't know that was whitewashing.

It is.

I still don't think it is whitewashing, you know what, it isn't.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:23 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:It is.

I still don't think it is whitewashing, you know what, it isn't.


No. It's plugging your ears singing "LALALALALALA..."
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:23 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:Yes, you are.

Well, I didn't know that was whitewashing.

Oxford English dictionary wrote:whitewash
Syllabification: white·wash
Pronunciation: /ˈ(h)wītˌwäSH/ /ˈ(h)wītˌwôSH/
Definition of whitewash in English:
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1A solution of lime and water or of whiting, size, and water, used for painting walls white.

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A deliberate concealment of someone’s mistakes or faults in order to clear their name.

The blue is the relevant definition.
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Postby Omega America II » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:24 pm

Laerod wrote:
Omega America II wrote:Well, I didn't know that was whitewashing.

You're spreading lies about what the Civil War started over and why the South seceded because having to admit that it was racist slavery makes the CSA and the slaver banner look bad.

It's truth. Slaver banner! I don't know what that means, but trust me, I don't like slavery. It is a cruel thing that should've been abolished.
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Postby Themiclesia » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:25 pm

Personally, I believe the Confederate emblem to be protected under the First Amendment of the US Constitution. Exactly as one is permitted to support the defunct and extinct CSA, one should be able to fly their colours.

On the other hand, I do not support the flag to be used as an article to offend. When it is used as an object to offend, it ought to be removed, as with any other object whose primary object is offence.

For example, if there's a museum that has an exhibit of all flag used in what is now USA in the past, then I fully support the museum's right to fly the Confederate flag, since it is demonstrated in historical context.
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Postby Divitaen » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:25 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Laerod wrote:You're spreading lies about what the Civil War started over and why the South seceded because having to admit that it was racist slavery makes the CSA and the slaver banner look bad.

It's truth. Slaver banner! I don't know what that means, but trust me, I don't like slavery. It is a cruel thing that should've been abolished.


You don't like slavery but have an awful lot of love for the group that seceded to maintain slavery.
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Postby Omega America II » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:25 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Omega America II wrote:Well, I didn't know that was whitewashing.

Oxford English dictionary wrote:whitewash
Syllabification: white·wash
Pronunciation: /ˈ(h)wītˌwäSH/ /ˈ(h)wītˌwôSH/
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A deliberate concealment of someone’s mistakes or faults in order to clear their name.

The blue is the relevant definition.

Ok, to clear my name from what?
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:25 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Laerod wrote:You're spreading lies about what the Civil War started over and why the South seceded because having to admit that it was racist slavery makes the CSA and the slaver banner look bad.

It's truth.

No, it's not. You've been shown multiple times that it isn't, and yet you stick to your neoconfederate lies.
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Postby Omega America II » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:26 pm

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Omega America II wrote:It's truth. Slaver banner! I don't know what that means, but trust me, I don't like slavery. It is a cruel thing that should've been abolished.


You don't like slavery but have an awful lot of love for the group that seceded to maintain slavery.

So what are you stating?
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Postby Divitaen » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:26 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:
The blue is the relevant definition.

Ok, to clear my name from what?


Don't be purposefully obtuse. You know she meant to clear the name of the CSA, not yours.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:26 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
The blue is the relevant definition.

Ok, to clear my name from what?

Not clear your name, to clear the name of the CSA.
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