Confederate Emblems to be Removed Nationwide.

[USS Monitor]

That's not what I meant, I meant the change that would eventually happen.

That the Confederates would eventually start to enslave white people too? That change?

That happened because of the one drop rule and slave-owners interbreeding with their slaves.

[Omega America II]

The original argument is about you not getting that the CSA rebelled because of slavery.

Something to which his signature is completely relevant...

Yet I'm not person who's bringing that argument back.

[USS Monitor]

Also, about your signature. You do know that more than a few states wrote when they were leaving the Union that it was because of slavery right?

Irrevelant to the current argument.

It's relevant to the thread, though.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Firstly, most drones are still manned in some form.
Secondly, "unmanned" equipment isn't unbreakable. It still needs people to repair it.

Yes but you don't have a drone crew to do it. Most likely two or three people that would fix it, and wouldn't be going through the same pain as slaves since they wouldn't have as dangerous work.

So basically instead of dozens of slaves on the field you'd have 2 or 3 slaves on the field.

That's still slavery, you know.

[Dyakovo]

Something to which his signature is completely relevant...

Yet I'm not person who's bringing that argument back.

Thanks to your sig, you bring it back with every post you make.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Firstly, most drones are still manned in some form.
Secondly, "unmanned" equipment isn't unbreakable. It still needs people to repair it.

Yes but you don't have a drone crew to do it.

Yeah you do.

Most likely two or three people that would fix it, and wouldn't be going through the same pain as slaves since they wouldn't have as dangerous work.

So... Like in the late late 19th Century to early 20th? Because that's about when gain exceeded pain.

[Laerod]

The original argument is about you not getting that the CSA rebelled because of slavery.

Ok, that is a long way back? So let's talk about is argument,

Funny story, it being a long way back doesn't mean it's not the topic of the thread. Quite the opposite. And I'd rather not talk about the shit argument that "slavery would have ended eventually" because we don't know and we don't need to. We will not be judging the evil of the CSA by things it never got around to doing.

[Omega America II]

Yet I'm not person who's bringing that argument back.

Thanks to your sig, you bring it back with every post you make.

Well I didn't mention it. I was talking about this argument then Laerod decided to talk about my sig.

[Dyakovo]

Ok, that is a long way back? So let's talk about is argument,

Funny story, it being a long way back doesn't mean it's not the topic of the thread. Quite the opposite. And I'd rather not talk about the shit argument that "slavery would have ended eventually" because we don't know and we don't need to. We will not be judging the evil of the CSA by things it never got around to doing.

Especially not when there's no reason to believe that they would have gotten around to it.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

The argument on the evil of the CSA, or the argument on the merits of the Confederate flag?

Because how long slavery would've lasted is neither of those.

Oh my gosh. You know what, never mind,

Leaving?

Thanks to your sig, you bring it back with every post you make.

Well I didn't mention it. I was talking about this argument then Laerod decided to talk about my sig.

You mentioned it in your sig.

[Laerod]

Thanks to your sig, you bring it back with every post you make.

Well I didn't mention it. I was talking about this argument then Laerod decided to talk about my sig.

Except I didn't.

[Omega America II]

Ok, that is a long way back? So let's talk about is argument,

Funny story, it being a long way back doesn't mean it's not the topic of the thread. Quite the opposite. And I'd rather not talk about the shit argument that "slavery would have ended eventually" because we don't know and we don't need to. We will not be judging the evil of the CSA by things it never got around to doing.

Yet, does it make since to bring it up in the middle of another argument? No.

[Laerod]

Funny story, it being a long way back doesn't mean it's not the topic of the thread. Quite the opposite. And I'd rather not talk about the shit argument that "slavery would have ended eventually" because we don't know and we don't need to. We will not be judging the evil of the CSA by things it never got around to doing.

Especially not when there's no reason to believe that they would have gotten around to it.

It's possible, but it is entirely speculative and with precious little actual evidence to go on either way.

[Omega America II]

Oh my gosh. You know what, never mind,

Leaving?

Well I didn't mention it. I was talking about this argument then Laerod decided to talk about my sig.

You mentioned it in your sig.

1. Probably, I do have to go soon
2. So, it doesn't mean you have to talk about it.

[Omega America II]

Well I didn't mention it. I was talking about this argument then Laerod decided to talk about my sig.

Except I didn't.

Oops, sorry.

[USS Monitor]

So you share Lee's views on slavery -- "it's evil, but let's go ahead and let it stay around another few centuries. What's the rush about getting rid of it?"

You have moved the goalposts from originally saying slavery would be gone by now to arguing that it would end in the mid- to late 21st century.

What's more mind boggling is that he thinks that slavery would simply end with advances in technology.

Slavery is highly profitable because it's basically free human capital (not really free, because you have to take care of their needs, but relatively free); so I sincerely doubt it'd have ended with changes in technology.

It's actually not profitable to the country as a whole because of the costs of managing the slaves and making sure they don't run away. It might benefit a few slave-owners, but it makes the country less competitive internationally.

[Laerod]

Funny story, it being a long way back doesn't mean it's not the topic of the thread. Quite the opposite. And I'd rather not talk about the shit argument that "slavery would have ended eventually" because we don't know and we don't need to. We will not be judging the evil of the CSA by things it never got around to doing.

Yet, does it make since to bring it up in the middle of another argument? No.

It kinda does since your odd fantasy story about the South abolishing slavery a few decades from now has little to nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

[Laerod]

Except I didn't.

Except you actually did.

Don't lie.

Yes I know, but that isn't what the argument is about.

Also, about your signature. You do know that more than a few states wrote when they were leaving the Union that it was because of slavery right?

[Dyakovo]

Thanks to your sig, you bring it back with every post you make.

Well I didn't mention it.

Doesn't change the fact that your erroneous claim is right there in your sig, and is thus attached to every post you make.
See, the thing is that the people with actual historical knowledge realize that slavery is the reason the that the confederate states tried to secede.

[Omega America II]

Yet, does it make since to bring it up in the middle of another argument? No.

It kinda does since your odd fantasy story about the South abolishing slavery a few decades from now has little to nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

Odd fantasy story, what do you think. They kept it forever until the end of time. I highly doubt that.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

2. So, it doesn't mean you have to talk about it.

Cock logic.

[Omega America II]

Except you actually did.

Don't lie.

Also, about your signature. You do know that more than a few states wrote when they were leaving the Union that it was because of slavery right?

Yes I see that. I made a mistake.

[Laerod]

It kinda does since your odd fantasy story about the South abolishing slavery a few decades from now has little to nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

Odd fantasy story, what do you think. They kept it forever until the end of time. I highly doubt that.

I think slavery was abolished by the North after the slavers tried to secede to protect their peculiar institution.

[Omega America II]

2. So, it doesn't mean you have to talk about it.

Cock logic.

Well, you don't. You also could talk about it.
Because my signature is true.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Well I didn't mention it.

Doesn't change the fact that your erroneous claim is right there in your sig, and is thus attached to every post you make.
See, the thing is that the people with actual historical knowledge realize that slavery is the reason the that the confederate states tried to secede.

You would be surprised at how many history graduates I've heard say that the CSA seceded because of states rights and heritage.