Confederate Emblems to be Removed Nationwide.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Two hundred years later, technology would still be manned.

2060? How would you know? It might be unmanned. We have drones. We have lawn mowers that are unmanned. Why not farming machines?

Waiting several hundred extra years for slavery to end is not a good thing.

[Omega America II]

So in other words you're saying slavery might be abolished in 2060 had the South won? No thanks.

They'd take longer than that to develop drones with their anti-industrialist attitude delaying technological advancement.

Hmm, good point.

[Omega America II]

2060? How would you know? It might be unmanned. We have drones. We have lawn mowers that are unmanned. Why not farming machines?

Waiting several hundred extra years for slavery to end is not a good thing.

Yes I know, but that isn't what the argument is about.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Two hundred years later, technology would still be manned.

2060? How would you know? It might be unmanned. We have drones. We have lawn mowers that are unmanned. Why not farming machines?

You have to teach people how to manufacture and program these machines. Slavery would be convenient even then.

See, you think slavery just means hard labor. It hardly does. Greek teachers were slaves, too, during the Roman Empire/Republic.

[Laerod]

In our timeline, slavery was abolished 160 years ago in the US. This is preferable to still waiting for it to be abolished today.

You don't know. With technology, comes change, and some things you have to accept.

Such as the CSA being of the slavers, by the slavers, and for the slavers.

[Omega America II]

2060? How would you know? It might be unmanned. We have drones. We have lawn mowers that are unmanned. Why not farming machines?

You have to teach people how to manufacture and program these machines. Slavery would be convenient even then.

See, you think slavery just means hard labor. It hardly does. Greek teachers were slaves, too.

Yet those jobs would exist at manufacturing places.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Waiting several hundred extra years for slavery to end is not a good thing.

Yes I know, but that isn't what the argument is about.

Also, about your signature. You do know that more than a few states wrote when they were leaving the Union that it was because of slavery right?

[Omega America II]

You don't know. With technology, comes change, and some things you have to accept.

Such as the CSA being of the slavers, by the slavers, and for the slavers.

That's not what I meant, I meant the change that would eventually happen.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You have to teach people how to manufacture and program these machines. Slavery would be convenient even then.

See, you think slavery just means hard labor. It hardly does. Greek teachers were slaves, too.

Yet those jobs would exist at manufacturing places.

Are you seriously arguing that slave owners wouldn't create manufacturing plants and place slaves to work in those manufacturing plants?

[Laerod]

Such as the CSA being of the slavers, by the slavers, and for the slavers.

That's not what I meant, I meant the change that would eventually happen.

That the Confederates would eventually start to enslave white people too? That change?

[Omega America II]

Yes I know, but that isn't what the argument is about.

Also, about your signature. You do know that more than a few states wrote when they were leaving the Union that it was because of slavery right?

Irrevelant to the current argument.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Two hundred years later, technology would still be manned.

2060? How would you know? It might be unmanned. We have drones. We have lawn mowers that are unmanned. Why not farming machines?

Firstly, most drones are still manned in some form.
Secondly, "unmanned" equipment isn't unbreakable. It still needs people to repair it.

[Laerod]

Also, about your signature. You do know that more than a few states wrote when they were leaving the Union that it was because of slavery right?

Irrevelant to the current argument.

Don't lie.

[Spirit of Hope]

Such as the CSA being of the slavers, by the slavers, and for the slavers.

That's not what I meant, I meant the change that would eventually happen.

Yes changes happen, changes that would probably make slavery less profitable. But there are almost always going to be ways to turn a profit by owning someone. So sure slavery may decrease in value, but that doesn't mean it is going away just because technology changes.

[USS Monitor]

The North was already beating them out in terms of agricultural productivity, but they were still determined to keep slavery.

Good Lord none of you seem to get it. I'm talking hundred years in advance! That was then, it's called change.

So you share Lee's views on slavery -- "it's evil, but let's go ahead and let it stay around another few centuries. What's the rush about getting rid of it?"

You have moved the goalposts from originally saying slavery would be gone by now to arguing that it would end in the mid- to late 21st century.

[Omega America II]

Irrevelant to the current argument.

Don't lie.

Im not freaking lying. Let's get back to the argument and not my signature.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Also, about your signature. You do know that more than a few states wrote when they were leaving the Union that it was because of slavery right?

Irrevelant to the current argument.

No it isn't.

[Laerod]

Don't lie.

Im not freaking lying. Let's get back to the argument and not my signature.

The original argument is about you not getting that the CSA rebelled because of slavery.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Good Lord none of you seem to get it. I'm talking hundred years in advance! That was then, it's called change.

So you share Lee's views on slavery -- "it's evil, but let's go ahead and let it stay around another few centuries. What's the rush about getting rid of it?"

You have moved the goalposts from originally saying slavery would be gone by now to arguing that it would end in the mid- to late 21st century.

What's more mind boggling is that he thinks that slavery would simply end with advances in technology.

Slavery is highly profitable because it's basically free human capital (not really free, because you have to take care of their needs, but relatively free); so I sincerely doubt it'd have ended with changes in technology.

[USS Monitor]

2060? How would you know? It might be unmanned. We have drones. We have lawn mowers that are unmanned. Why not farming machines?

You have to teach people how to manufacture and program these machines. Slavery would be convenient even then.

See, you think slavery just means hard labor. It hardly does. Greek teachers were slaves, too, during the Roman Empire/Republic.

Even in the US, some slaves did more sophisticated work and not just farm labor.

[Omega America II]

2060? How would you know? It might be unmanned. We have drones. We have lawn mowers that are unmanned. Why not farming machines?

Firstly, most drones are still manned in some form.
Secondly, "unmanned" equipment isn't unbreakable. It still needs people to repair it.

Yes but you don't have a drone crew to do it. Most likely two or three people that would fix it, and wouldn't be going through the same pain as slaves since they wouldn't have as dangerous work.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Don't lie.

Im not freaking lying. Let's get back to the argument and not my signature.

The argument on the evil of the CSA, or the argument on the merits of the Confederate flag?

Because how long slavery would've lasted is neither of those.

[Omega America II]

Im not freaking lying. Let's get back to the argument and not my signature.

The original argument is about you not getting that the CSA rebelled because of slavery.

Ok, that is a long way back? So let's talk about is argument,

[Dyakovo]

Im not freaking lying. Let's get back to the argument and not my signature.

The original argument is about you not getting that the CSA rebelled because of slavery.

Something to which his signature is completely relevant...

[Omega America II]

Im not freaking lying. Let's get back to the argument and not my signature.

The argument on the evil of the CSA, or the argument on the merits of the Confederate flag?

Because how long slavery would've lasted is neither of those.

Oh my gosh. You know what, never mind,